2016 Postmortem
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WASHINGTON (AP) A federal judge says he may order Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton to testify under oath about whether she used a private email server as secretary of state to evade public records disclosures.
U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on Wednesday signed an order granting a request from the conservative legal advocacy group Judicial Watch to question six current and former State Department staffers. The list includes some of Clinton's closest aides from her tenure as the nation's top diplomat.
Based on what might be gleaned in those interviews, Sullivan says in his order that a sworn deposition from Clinton "may be necessary."
More than three dozen lawsuits have been filed seeking copies of government records related to Clinton's service as secretary from 2009 to 2013.
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-05-04/us-judge-clinton-may-be-ordered-to-testify-in-records-case
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)especially those who are trying to run from it at every turn
Even though the RW has latched onto this it's still all Hillary's doing.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)either in the foot or the mouth, but sometimes both
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)This agenda is being exposed on the radio too, finally.
May be too late though, many unsuspecting liberal people have been fooled.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)This is complicated subject matter that most people know nothing about. On both sides.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)She's being investigated by the FBI for Pete's sake.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)filed several suits to try to drag this out as long as possible. If she has to work a deposition into her schedule, she will. If only it could be in public, like that last Benghazi hearing, but of course that won't happen.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)The ongoing FBI investigation. The case was referred to the FBI by Obama's State Department.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Ultraconservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife (safely dead these past 2-3 years so we can't even fantasize about trying him for his crimes) funded their start-up to turn them on the Democrats.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Which has been very favorable to Clinton this cycle.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Yes, I know they are motivated to submit these lawsuits to damage Clinton, but if the lawsuits were stupid which-hunt bullshit, they wouldn't get past their first hearing. The fact that they have moved from discovery to deposition phase tells me there is there there.
FYI...this is nothing like the Benghazi investigation that was run by the repub controlled congress and most definitely was politically motivated. The FOIA lawsuits are civil legal matters.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Sullivan was appointed by President Reagan to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia on October 3, 1984. On November 25, 1991, Sullivan was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to serve as an Associate Judge of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)JudyM
(29,233 posts)is forthcoming, according a DOJ statement to the Court.
Continuing to say this is a GOP witch hunt is patently absurd!!
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)They did this after Clinton gave them a hard time turning over the emails.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)passed sensitive information through it--is not a right-wing issue.
This is a very serious issue within the Democratic party. Stop trying to paint this as a Republican hit job. This is an FBI investigation into the Democratic Party frontrunner. Who gives a flying fuck what the Republicans think or say. This is about US--as a party.
All Democrats should be asking questions about what is going on here. We should be able to discuss this like adults. This is about our frontrunner, this election and the entire Democratic party.
Any Democrat who bullies another Democrat into shutting up about this issue--is doing a disservice to the entire Democratic party.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)In my opinion, by secreting material from the public and subverting the Freedom of Information Act, the former Secretary of State has committed acts that should disqualify her from holding any future office of significance.
That's just common sense.
She should withdraw from the campaign and support Senator Sanders, and soon.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)First her Iraq vote kept her from becoming a president, and now her misuse of State documents is going to make her withdraw.
She could have been president if not for her past!! I feel bad for all her supporters, they just didn't see it coming. But that's what skeletons do.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts).
If ever this proverb fit a situation....
How much better it is to get wisdom than gold!
And to get understanding is to be chosen above silver.
The highway of the upright is to depart from evil;
He who watches his way preserves his life.
Pride goes before destruction,
And a haughty spirit before stumbling.
It is better to be humble in spirit with the lowly
Than to divide the spoil with the proud.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Since none of these cases will rest on the opinions of anyone here on DU, can Bernie's people spare the rest of us the constant updates of their personal opinions. People who have sufficient competent knowledge of the law, and the evidence available regarding this matter will render a decision when they are ready to do so. Until then can those of you who are in possession of neither, cut with the daily speculation.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)It is not a requirement to read everything posted. Here, we get to pick and choose. If you don't like it- move on. You have both an ignore and trash button.
So please, spare the rest of us your whining about it.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)No testimony has happened yet in the JW case.
A sworn deposition is bad news for her. A few weeks ago it was said that she would not be required to be under oath. This is an erosion of her status. Probably because she has pissed off the judge, who was appointed by her husband, incidentally.
This, it should be noted, is not part of the FBI investigation, which is broader and deeper.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)In this case I think they just had the hearing where JW had to submit what the scope of what the questions would be. So the fact that it's on to scheduling depositions is huge.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)This is separate. A civil suit.
We do not know the schedule for the FBI interviews, which may or may not be under oath. However, it is always a crime to lie to the FBI, regardless of oath. Martha Stewart.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...until after they've interviewed her. And in both cases, she'll plead the 5th if she's under oath.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I think they will be very very happy to have this testimony in hand when they interview her. Just my guess.
If she pleads the 5th, she's toast.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Her best chance is to clam up, and hope no more of her aides turn state's evidence.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)Dem convention. Assuming she doesn't persuade the judge to seal the testimony...
No witch hunt, just the truth.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)Judicial watch people? And you say you are not helping Trump.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)let's get to the bottom of this. If she has nothing to worry about, then she won't need to be questioned.
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)No your honor, I did not.
I'll be surprised if this raises much interest.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)to change that.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)on a criminal FBI investigation and its likelihood to result in an indictment.
Very few people wanted to hear about the Bill and Monica escapades and yet
look how that turned out. This is happening whether Hill supporters want to hear
about it or not.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Just like when people in the Bush administration used RNC email addresses. Same reason.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)We already know she did "partial" deletions because of the six that Blumenthal turned in -- changing government records and thinking she could get away with it --shaking my head at the shame she brings our party.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)There's a word for that, I believe...
Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)...hope she is questioned soon! I'm sure Hillary would like them to move more quickly.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Superdelegates might have a lot of soul-searching to do on the road ahead.
VOX
(22,976 posts)I support Bernie, but this gambit is pure right-wing horseshit.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)That this case has gone this far means there is substance to the alogations.
Keep in mind that this is a civil case based on FOIA...the FBI investigation is entirely separate and is a criminal investigation.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Or why bother?
MattP
(3,304 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)Because people believe it has to be true
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Bring it on.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)When Clinton was Sec of State, she wrote to the judge in the Drummond Coal death squad lawsuit asking him (but really telling him) NOT to require a deposition of Alvaro Uribe.
Uribe was basically the mafia boss of Colombia and president of that country during the Bush junta. With Clinton as Sec of State, Uribe (after CIA Director Panetta retired him as U.S. operative in Colombia) was given cushy academic sinecures at Harvard and Georgetown and a prestigious appointment to an international legal committee. Drummond Coal, an Alabama corporation operating in Colombia, was using death squads to solve its labor problems. The victims' surviving families brought the lawsuit. Uribe and his family members and political cronies have been firmly tied to the rightwing death squad activities in Colombia. (Some of them are already in jail for it.)
The judge--responding to the implication from Clinton that "national security" was involved--denied the families' request to depose Uribe.
So, now, Clinton has herself become subject to an inconvenient order for deposition, and doesn't seem to have a friend in the Obama administration (or the CIA) to intimidate the judge. Karma?