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Why should the Democratic Party nominate a candidate disliked and not trusted by most voters? (Original Post) imagine2015 May 2016 OP
why, indeed? grasswire May 2016 #1
Well, there is a simple answer. Hav May 2016 #2
There you go using your facts again. Gomez163 May 2016 #3
no; the M$M has ignored or denigrated Bernie, while lobbying for HRC & ignoring her amborin May 2016 #7
She had a tremendous insider advantage before anyone announced they were running. That Guy 888 May 2016 #36
And that would be less than 10% of registered Democrats. imagine2015 May 2016 #45
The voters like and trust Hillary Rodham Clinton metroins May 2016 #4
Why should the losing candidate and his supporters join the Republican nominee in Trust Buster May 2016 #5
the Republian nominee? The candidate endorsed by Kissinger, the Kochs, Rupert Murdoch, George Will? amborin May 2016 #9
and now maybe supported by Rove?? oldandhappy May 2016 #15
Some people say? MattP May 2016 #21
Saw it somewhere this morning. Will look for it. oldandhappy May 2016 #34
it's been reported in the media amborin May 2016 #37
Becaues it is her turn. Because MATH. Because Primary voters count and caucses don't. Because the Vincardog May 2016 #6
your crowd keeps saying this but your candidate has not offered any evidence or even msongs May 2016 #14
Because she is the most qualified BY A LONG SHOT. fun n serious May 2016 #23
Why do anti Democratic party agenda people spend so much time on DU? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #8
In 2001 when this was set up the Democrats were considered left-leaning. Gore1FL May 2016 #19
I was one of them in 2004 Ned_Devine May 2016 #26
democrats value principles, not Party or person; it's about core values amborin May 2016 #38
The people are speaking, and the majority voted for Hillary bigwillq May 2016 #10
well besides the fact that she has gotten more votes than bernie or trump lol.... nt msongs May 2016 #11
"disliked and not trusted by most voters" ? Tarc May 2016 #12
her consistuency's among party honchos--she can only win closed primaries MisterP May 2016 #13
because she is winning!!!!!! giggle oldandhappy May 2016 #16
The other option: why would the party nominate the loser? CrowCityDem May 2016 #17
It's bizarre, for sure. But it's the whole system that put her where she is, not just the people bjo59 May 2016 #18
Rove is supporting Bernie by running ads against Hillary MattP May 2016 #20
I think it's called democracy she is getting the most votes. If Bernie gets enough votes doc03 May 2016 #22
You're wrong, Not exactly clear on that at all with NY, AZ and others who suppressed the litlbilly May 2016 #25
No one is blowing you off. Blame the Repubs in your state where voter suppression happened. KelleyD May 2016 #30
"...others who suppressed the votes in very large numbers." justiceischeap May 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #24
I think it's got something to do with getting the most votes. 72DejaVu May 2016 #27
It's not a popularity contest. n/t Scurrilous May 2016 #28
To preserve the new American dynasties? KansDem May 2016 #29
Kind of blew your CT!!!! eom KelleyD May 2016 #31
Because she's winning the primary. JoePhilly May 2016 #33
Well if you like a Wall Street messiah go with the former Senator from Wall Street imagine2015 May 2016 #35
because Hillary has the most votes, maybe? asuhornets May 2016 #39
Even if she can't defeat Trump? imagine2015 May 2016 #40
But she's beating Sanders.. asuhornets May 2016 #43
Money. Donors before voters. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #41
But she's ahead in the vote, and pledged delegate count. Agschmid May 2016 #42
IDK. Why nominate someone who can't get more votes than that person? Recursion May 2016 #44

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. why, indeed?
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

when there is an alternative with 86 percent trustworthy ratings and immense crossover appeal?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
2. Well, there is a simple answer.
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016

Apparently that candidate is well liked and trusted by the Democrats who voted during these primaries.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
7. no; the M$M has ignored or denigrated Bernie, while lobbying for HRC & ignoring her
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

multitude of misdeeds. Many voters get all of their info from the M$M. Critical theorists (aka the Frankfurt School) have addressed this issue: passive totalitarianism. Sit someone in front of the TV and you've got sway over them.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
36. She had a tremendous insider advantage before anyone announced they were running.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

She schmoozed the super-delegates and other democratic leaning leaders(labor/union leaders, Civil rights leaders, etc) before a single Democratic opponent announced they would run. This primary was supposed to be over before it left the South.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
45. And that would be less than 10% of registered Democrats.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

Do you think she can win with that small base and few of the registered independents who are over 40% of the voters?

metroins

(2,550 posts)
4. The voters like and trust Hillary Rodham Clinton
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

She has more votes than any other candidate in any of the races.

Leads Bernie in pledged delegates, votes, super delegates and every other measure.

But you know all of this.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
5. Why should the losing candidate and his supporters join the Republican nominee in
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

attacking the Democratic nominee ? You might as well vote for Trump.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
6. Becaues it is her turn. Because MATH. Because Primary voters count and caucses don't. Because the
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

Machine can steal it for her. Because If she is the democratic nominee the entrenched regressive oligarchy can sleep secure in the knowledge that there will be no political threat to their fortunes.

msongs

(67,394 posts)
14. your crowd keeps saying this but your candidate has not offered any evidence or even
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

contested results in anything regarding hillary

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
19. In 2001 when this was set up the Democrats were considered left-leaning.
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

There are a lot of us who joined DU then.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
10. The people are speaking, and the majority voted for Hillary
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:38 PM
May 2016

in the Democratic primary. She should be the nominee of the Democratic party.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
12. "disliked and not trusted by most voters" ?
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

Obviously the voters that can actually show up to the ballot box disagree.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
13. her consistuency's among party honchos--she can only win closed primaries
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

but that just means they're gonna try and make the GEs closed!

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
18. It's bizarre, for sure. But it's the whole system that put her where she is, not just the people
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

voted for her in the primaries. I think the corporate goal was and is simply to prevent anyone who campaigns for what Bernie is campaigning for to never, ever be installed in the White House. For them, any candidate is better for them than Bernie. The corporate media, as the propaganda arm of the corpo-government power bloc, has worked over time to achieve that goal. I'm just assuming that the Democratic Party is now a wing of that power block and has a similar view even if never stated aloud even to themselves. The system must be preserved exactly as it is for the many powerful players that benefit from that system. If the goal of the Democratic Party is to elect a Democrat as the next president, then... no, nominating a candidate who is not trusted and disliked by most voters is incredibly dumb (the kind of dumb that is born of arrogance and exaggerated self regard).

doc03

(35,325 posts)
22. I think it's called democracy she is getting the most votes. If Bernie gets enough votes
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

in what is left of primaries he will be the nominee.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
25. You're wrong, Not exactly clear on that at all with NY, AZ and others who suppressed the
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

votes in very large numbers. the entire system, DNC, M$M, etc are all against Bernie and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get that, unless you are part of the crowd that doesn't care. I am still thinking Bernie can catch her in delegates going forward and the supers will prove or disprove my point. The game is rigged big time against non-establishment types. We will see, but, if they just think they can blow us off, they will be in for a big surprise come convention day.

KelleyD

(277 posts)
30. No one is blowing you off. Blame the Repubs in your state where voter suppression happened.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:37 PM
May 2016

Unless you believe that the pole workers were psychic and knew which voters were for either candidate. Please... CT does not belong in our party! Oh I forgot...this is not your party!
When anyone starts complaining that they were ROBBED means they are losing.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
32. "...others who suppressed the votes in very large numbers."
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

This makes the assumption that the suppressed votes were all votes cast for Sanders and absolutely none for anyone else.

Do you see how wrong that logic is?

Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
29. To preserve the new American dynasties?
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

1980: Reagan/Bush
1984: Reagan/Bush
1988: Bush/Quayle
1992: Clinton/Gore
1996: Clinton/Gore
2000: Bush/Cheney
2004: Bush/Cheney
2008: Obama/Biden
2012: Obama/Biden
2016: ?Clinton (Hillary) or Bush (Jeb)?

Of course, Jeb dropped out of the race, but still, he was a contender.

The oligarchs are elated.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
33. Because she's winning the primary.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

Here's an idea ... rather than wait for the liberal Messiah to appear, go make a few.

The movement wanted Warren, not Bernie.

She said NO ... Bernie said OK.

That's where we are.

If you wanted someone else to win the primary, you needed to do more long before now.

Get it?

I bet not.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
39. because Hillary has the most votes, maybe?
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

You talk about dislike or untrustworthy like we're in high school.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
43. But she's beating Sanders..
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

In order for Sanders to beat Trump like the polls says ---he needs to beat Hillary in the primaries. But you already know that. Hence, what's the point of stating Sanders beats Trump by a wider margin than Hillary Clinton.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
44. IDK. Why nominate someone who can't get more votes than that person?
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

We had a weak bench this year, with an exception or two. You still have to run the play with what you have.

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