2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy should the Democratic Party nominate a candidate disliked and not trusted by most voters?
Is that a new formula for winning presidential elections?
I writing about Secretary Clinton of course.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)when there is an alternative with 86 percent trustworthy ratings and immense crossover appeal?
Hav
(5,969 posts)Apparently that candidate is well liked and trusted by the Democrats who voted during these primaries.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)multitude of misdeeds. Many voters get all of their info from the M$M. Critical theorists (aka the Frankfurt School) have addressed this issue: passive totalitarianism. Sit someone in front of the TV and you've got sway over them.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)She schmoozed the super-delegates and other democratic leaning leaders(labor/union leaders, Civil rights leaders, etc) before a single Democratic opponent announced they would run. This primary was supposed to be over before it left the South.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Do you think she can win with that small base and few of the registered independents who are over 40% of the voters?
metroins
(2,550 posts)She has more votes than any other candidate in any of the races.
Leads Bernie in pledged delegates, votes, super delegates and every other measure.
But you know all of this.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)attacking the Democratic nominee ? You might as well vote for Trump.
amborin
(16,631 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Machine can steal it for her. Because If she is the democratic nominee the entrenched regressive oligarchy can sleep secure in the knowledge that there will be no political threat to their fortunes.
msongs
(67,394 posts)contested results in anything regarding hillary
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)There are a lot of us who joined DU then.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)in the Democratic primary. She should be the nominee of the Democratic party.
msongs
(67,394 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Obviously the voters that can actually show up to the ballot box disagree.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)but that just means they're gonna try and make the GEs closed!
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)voted for her in the primaries. I think the corporate goal was and is simply to prevent anyone who campaigns for what Bernie is campaigning for to never, ever be installed in the White House. For them, any candidate is better for them than Bernie. The corporate media, as the propaganda arm of the corpo-government power bloc, has worked over time to achieve that goal. I'm just assuming that the Democratic Party is now a wing of that power block and has a similar view even if never stated aloud even to themselves. The system must be preserved exactly as it is for the many powerful players that benefit from that system. If the goal of the Democratic Party is to elect a Democrat as the next president, then... no, nominating a candidate who is not trusted and disliked by most voters is incredibly dumb (the kind of dumb that is born of arrogance and exaggerated self regard).
MattP
(3,304 posts)doc03
(35,325 posts)in what is left of primaries he will be the nominee.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)votes in very large numbers. the entire system, DNC, M$M, etc are all against Bernie and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get that, unless you are part of the crowd that doesn't care. I am still thinking Bernie can catch her in delegates going forward and the supers will prove or disprove my point. The game is rigged big time against non-establishment types. We will see, but, if they just think they can blow us off, they will be in for a big surprise come convention day.
KelleyD
(277 posts)Unless you believe that the pole workers were psychic and knew which voters were for either candidate. Please... CT does not belong in our party! Oh I forgot...this is not your party!
When anyone starts complaining that they were ROBBED means they are losing.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)This makes the assumption that the suppressed votes were all votes cast for Sanders and absolutely none for anyone else.
Do you see how wrong that logic is?
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72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)1980: Reagan/Bush
1984: Reagan/Bush
1988: Bush/Quayle
1992: Clinton/Gore
1996: Clinton/Gore
2000: Bush/Cheney
2004: Bush/Cheney
2008: Obama/Biden
2012: Obama/Biden
2016: ?Clinton (Hillary) or Bush (Jeb)?
Of course, Jeb dropped out of the race, but still, he was a contender.
The oligarchs are elated.
KelleyD
(277 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Here's an idea ... rather than wait for the liberal Messiah to appear, go make a few.
The movement wanted Warren, not Bernie.
She said NO ... Bernie said OK.
That's where we are.
If you wanted someone else to win the primary, you needed to do more long before now.
Get it?
I bet not.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)You talk about dislike or untrustworthy like we're in high school.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)In order for Sanders to beat Trump like the polls says ---he needs to beat Hillary in the primaries. But you already know that. Hence, what's the point of stating Sanders beats Trump by a wider margin than Hillary Clinton.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)So... No.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)We had a weak bench this year, with an exception or two. You still have to run the play with what you have.