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Gucifer says he hacked Hillary's server (Original Post) B2G May 2016 OP
GOP may get some pay dirt with the uninformed and ignorant. Actor May 2016 #1
Please tell us what he said that was so insignificant.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #3
GOP, here and elsewhere, love this stuff. Actor May 2016 #5
No, people who want the truth.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #7
LOL Actor May 2016 #9
Clinton ran the business of this country on personally owned equipment in the basement of her home. CentralCoaster May 2016 #12
So by ALL means let Trump destroy the lives of millions...so irresponsible Actor May 2016 #14
Are you suggesting we ignore reality? Nt B2G May 2016 #18
Even better: nominate the superior candidate and let Clinton ride off into the sunset. arcane1 May 2016 #21
Trying to do that, but the reality is it isnt going to happen probably. Actor May 2016 #24
Your "grown-ups" are ignoring the fact that Sanders is much more rhett o rick May 2016 #32
So Trump is acceptable to you... Actor May 2016 #34
Those that really don't want Trump are supporting the best candidate rhett o rick May 2016 #37
Clinton's top donors would rather lose to Trump than win with Sanders arcane1 May 2016 #44
Because the 1% fears Sanders more than Trump senz May 2016 #50
Über alles in der Welt Aerows May 2016 #66
Oh yes, all the questionable stuff Hillary did... dchill May 2016 #52
They always blame others. Hillary does, too. 840high May 2016 #59
Policies Hillary supports have already done precisely that. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #55
So you will let Trump take the White House? Actor May 2016 #57
I'll let Bernie take it. 840high May 2016 #60
I won't have any real say in that, actually. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #62
The meme that the FBI and the DoJ are GOP is ridiculous. panader0 May 2016 #13
Keep promoting the lie that Hillary is going to be indicted, it wont happen but Actor May 2016 #15
I have no goal except learning the truth. panader0 May 2016 #45
Why do people.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #16
Don't feed the trolls by replying to them. . . just put them into ignore. pdsimdars May 2016 #35
We're in the GENERAL. "People" want lies. Hortensis May 2016 #49
This, but... scscholar May 2016 #70
OMG!!!! JoePhilly May 2016 #2
Yawn.... panader0 May 2016 #22
I suspect that is exactly how excited Hillary will be about this news. JoePhilly May 2016 #25
Yeah sure, I'll bet she never even thinks about the investigations ongoing..... panader0 May 2016 #31
Given the "investigations" of Hillary have gone on for about 25 years ... JoePhilly May 2016 #33
Then she needs to stop 840high May 2016 #61
They'd investigate her for burbing. JoePhilly May 2016 #63
Too bad it would be inadmissable. Jester Messiah May 2016 #4
You mean, if he gave an interview with the FBI and then had an interview with the press pdsimdars May 2016 #40
Any evidence he gathered from her server, I mean. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #46
this is yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeee DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #6
lol nt BootinUp May 2016 #41
So? KingFlorez May 2016 #8
The mantra has been her server was secure B2G May 2016 #10
Seriously? mmonk May 2016 #29
YES! KingFlorez May 2016 #47
Well that doesn't sound so good. Eek! nt nc4bo May 2016 #11
If true then it will be very hard for Hillary to overcome this. NWCorona May 2016 #17
If true ... ancient alien theorists say .... JoePhilly May 2016 #28
I'm not one to claim things as facts purely from Twitter posts. NWCorona May 2016 #38
. . . Codeine May 2016 #67
Okay. Aerows May 2016 #69
He said it was like an open orchid on the internet......hundreds of folders..... nc4bo May 2016 #30
From the sounds of it the interview was conducted in a prison in Romania? NWCorona May 2016 #36
He just gave it today. From the US. nt B2G May 2016 #39
I'm not denying that but can you provide a source? NWCorona May 2016 #48
Jeebus what a big ole pile of messiness! nc4bo May 2016 #43
Well, at that time he hadn't talked to the FBI either. He won't lie to them. pdsimdars May 2016 #42
Did anyone really expect he'd give proof to a reporter? winter is coming May 2016 #56
Clarification please.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #19
If true, then others may have done so as well. sadoldgirl May 2016 #20
All of the employees of the cloud company had access to classified material. panader0 May 2016 #26
yes 840high May 2016 #64
And the two companies Aerows May 2016 #68
That would be very bad... TCJ70 May 2016 #23
His trial is in SEPTEMBER! That should provide a lovely series of headlines. highprincipleswork May 2016 #27
Without a doubt! GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #71
Duh! Do you think they brought him over here for nothing. onecaliberal May 2016 #51
so how much did Trump pay him greymattermom May 2016 #53
Probably not as much as Clintons paid Blumenthal to collect leaks out of the CIA HereSince1628 May 2016 #54
Right wing BULLSHIT! workinclasszero May 2016 #58
You just can't admit she brought 840high May 2016 #65
I wish you guys would quit acting like you're the protectors of the Leftwing of the party, and highprincipleswork May 2016 #72
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
3. Please tell us what he said that was so insignificant....
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

....oh, I forgot FBI agents are not supposed to divulge this information.

Oh wait....

You are not an FBI agent.

Never mind.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
12. Clinton ran the business of this country on personally owned equipment in the basement of her home.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

LOL.

Actor

(626 posts)
24. Trying to do that, but the reality is it isnt going to happen probably.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:34 PM
May 2016

The grown ups will then have to do their job, and make sure Trump isnt allowed to destroy everything.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
32. Your "grown-ups" are ignoring the fact that Sanders is much more
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

apt to defeat Trump. I think defeating Trump isn't as important as keeping Sanders or any real progressive out of power. "Corporations Uber Alles" Right?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
37. Those that really don't want Trump are supporting the best candidate
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

to defeat him and that is Sanders. You apparently don't care if Trump wins as long as Sanders doesn't.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
44. Clinton's top donors would rather lose to Trump than win with Sanders
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:48 PM
May 2016

We see evidence of that every day here too.

dchill

(38,320 posts)
52. Oh yes, all the questionable stuff Hillary did...
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

is now gonna be Trump's fault! Deal another Royal Flush of victim cards! Denial - it's becoming a new religion.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
55. Policies Hillary supports have already done precisely that.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

Millions and millions of Americans living in poverty and near-poverty because of corporatist control of the political system (while Hillary's paymasters grow richer every minute). Millions killed in unnecessary, pointless wars. Millions fed to the private prison system. Need I go on?

Actor

(626 posts)
57. So you will let Trump take the White House?
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

If so why are you within ten thousand miles of a liberal message board?

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
62. I won't have any real say in that, actually.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

I don't live in a swing state. The closest I can come to influencing the selection of our next president is voting in my primary (already done and mailed...).

And the reason I'm at a liberal message board is precisely because of political actions like those Hillary Clinton has taken and has supported. That's why I vote. That's why I'm an activist. This particular board is closely connected to a party that's not particularly liberal any more...but I haven't given up.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
13. The meme that the FBI and the DoJ are GOP is ridiculous.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

It just makes you look...well, ...uninformed.
Why is seeking the truth so hilarious to you guys?

Actor

(626 posts)
15. Keep promoting the lie that Hillary is going to be indicted, it wont happen but
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

it will accomplish your goal.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
45. I have no goal except learning the truth.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

I never have said that HRC will be indicted, I said it is a very real possibility.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
16. Why do people....
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

...not look like those little yellow laugh monsters on DU....

....when they are testifying in court?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
35. Don't feed the trolls by replying to them. . . just put them into ignore.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016

They are not here for information or truth or anything other than pushing your buttons and getting you to respond.

And this one is a perfect exmaple.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
70. This, but...
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

this story is playing well with the uninformed. The rest of us knew this was a non-issue a year ago.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
33. Given the "investigations" of Hillary have gone on for about 25 years ...
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:40 PM
May 2016

... I bet you are correct.

Of course there was that day where for 11 hours, she kicked GOP ass ... but hey, maybe she's very worried about this email nonsense.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
40. You mean, if he gave an interview with the FBI and then had an interview with the press
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

it would b inadmissable? Doesn't sound correct to me. Just because you say something under oath doesn't mean you can never say it again.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
17. If true then it will be very hard for Hillary to overcome this.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

And I don't necessarily mean from a voter’s perspective.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
30. He said it was like an open orchid on the internet......hundreds of folders.....
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:36 PM
May 2016
Lazar, 44, gave no proof to back up his claim and would not provide copies of the emails he said he downloaded.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hacker-guccifer-i-got-inside-hillary-clinton-s-server-n568206

Note he said he gave no proof AND that he WOULD NOT provide copies.

does this even mean?!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. From the sounds of it the interview was conducted in a prison in Romania?
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016

So how would he have proof? Kinda strange to mention that in the article as he's in prison lol.

The kicker is that the article says that he will be questioned on Hillary's server while here in the US.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
48. I'm not denying that but can you provide a source?
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:52 PM
May 2016

Read this,
"It was like an open orchid on the Internet," Marcel Lehel Lazar, who uses the devilish handle Guccifer, told NBC News in an exclusive interview from a prison in Bucharest"

They mentioned Bucharest.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
43. Jeebus what a big ole pile of messiness!
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:48 PM
May 2016

I'm sorry but everytime I hear more about Hill's bad judgement, it serves as another validation that she is not the kind of candidate I want to see elected as potus.

We can do sooooooooo much better.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
56. Did anyone really expect he'd give proof to a reporter?
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

If he had proof, the FBI or DOJ has it now and they won't be sharing. I'd say that statement is an attempt for NBC to have it both ways--they get to scoop the story but can hide behind the "no proof" line if someone gets pissy with them.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
68. And the two companies
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:01 PM
May 2016

that did the backups.

One copy of that database, and I'm sure there are plenty floating around out there somewhere on some tape/SAN/NAS, it's an open book.

Email functions as a database. Just because the links to the information is deleted, doesn't mean it is purged from the actual database. You can't reindex one, either. You have to export all of the individual inboxes, whack the whole data base, and reimport it to a new one for the "deleted" stuff to go away.

I am about 100% sure that was not done because that is a process that can seriously burn some daylight (and night time, a weekend, etc.). Hillary Clinton doesn't strike me as the sort of individual that would stand for a single email getting lost in the ether due to a gap in said procedure being performed, either. There are ways to prevent that, of course, but again, we are talking burning even more daylight.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
72. I wish you guys would quit acting like you're the protectors of the Leftwing of the party, and
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

everyone else who cares about our prospects in November is somehow Rightwing! That is highly offensive and also highly inaccurate.

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