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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:52 PM May 2016

It's looking like NBC sat on the Guccifer story for over a month.

From everything I've read so far the interview was in a Bucharest prison and that would be before he was extradited to the US at the end of March. This was well before the NY primary. Seems odd to wait that long.

I can see editing and production time but this is serious stuff.

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It's looking like NBC sat on the Guccifer story for over a month. (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
So now Bernie lost New York because some tacky ass hacker didn't have an interview aired KingFlorez May 2016 #1
Did I say that? NWCorona May 2016 #4
The media trying to control the election... scscholar May 2016 #11
Exactly!! n/t FourScore May 2016 #14
Interesting how you guys now have changed your tunes and embrace the Corp Media rhett o rick May 2016 #15
I agree... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #2
IOW, business as usual. nt valerief May 2016 #3
Lol. Yea, it's odd alright. JTFrog May 2016 #5
This one starts interviewing him from April 19th onward (Faux News). insta8er May 2016 #6
Crazy NWCorona May 2016 #9
Yes, this "10 IPs" comment. What does that mean? Barack_America May 2016 #12
Exactly right! NWCorona May 2016 #13
You're kidding, right? Barack_America May 2016 #16
About what? NWCorona May 2016 #18
Her opening a phishing email. Barack_America May 2016 #19
Yeah I couldn't believe it ether. NWCorona May 2016 #24
Most communication to a server is logged somewhere. RichVRichV May 2016 #17
So, did 10 other people get into her account? Or was it just her... Barack_America May 2016 #20
It's not 100% clear from that one statement. jeff47 May 2016 #22
From the way he describes it probably had nothing to do with her account. RichVRichV May 2016 #23
Not quite jeff47 May 2016 #21
That depends on a number of factors. RichVRichV May 2016 #25
Access Logs on the server FreakinDJ May 2016 #26
They did sit on it until FOX was breaking their own story... 4139 May 2016 #7
Yup! I just realized that as others sent me the link. NWCorona May 2016 #10
Timing may be strange Hav May 2016 #8
Puh - leez MSNBC gave up objectivity a long time ago. The only thing they "report" is opinion. pdsimdars May 2016 #28
Far too serious to inform the US public about in a timely manner. nt mhatrw May 2016 #27

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
1. So now Bernie lost New York because some tacky ass hacker didn't have an interview aired
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

Keep up with the excuses.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
4. Did I say that?
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

You can say what you will but this is a huge story and it was sat on.

I don't know if it would have made a difference or on as I don't have a working chrystal ball.

And you aren't the one to school people on excuses.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
11. The media trying to control the election...
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

is a real story. They're trying to control our very future.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. Interesting how you guys now have changed your tunes and embrace the Corp Media
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

as well as embracing Citizens United. But if one wants to be on the winning side, and that's all that matters, the odds are the side with the backing of the billionaires, banksters and Wall Fracking Street crooks. You do know that if you lay with the dogs or lie with the dogs you will get fleas. Can we send Frontline?

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
2. I agree...
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

But of course the MSM (aside from Fox) has been completely ignoring the story. Obviously carrying Clinton's water, so it doesn't surprise me they would sit in the story until Hillary was closer to clinching.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
9. Crazy
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

"In the process of mining data from the Blumenthal account, Lazar said he came across evidence that others were on the Clinton server.

"As far as I remember, yes, there were … up to 10, like, IPs from other parts of the world,” he said."

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
12. Yes, this "10 IPs" comment. What does that mean?
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

For a non-IT person.

It seems to suggest he wasn't the only one who hacked it?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
13. Exactly right!
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

Hillary actually tried to open a phishing email that made it to her inbox that had worms with outward IPs going to China, Russia, Germany and Isreal.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
24. Yeah I couldn't believe it ether.
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:58 PM
May 2016

The fact that it made it into her inbox is crazy. The fact that she opened it and seems to have clicked on the zip is mind-boggling!

I have two lotus accounts and I've never received any email like that. The security was ideal at all.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
17. Most communication to a server is logged somewhere.
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

Servers keep logs of all direct access attempts (successful or failed) with IP addresses of connections. It's a simple matter to parse the log files down to only successful connections. From there it's just a matter of determining if the connection was legitimate or a hack such as brute forcing a password on the root account (always turn off the root and admin accounts on servers, everyone attacks them). That's going through the front door with something like an ssh connection.


There's also other means of hacking a server. One of our email servers was hacked by a buffer overflow attack. In a buffer overflow attack someone sends data in a corrupted manner that pushes a portion of the data outside the memory block allocated for storing that data. By pushing the correct data into the correct memory block they can use it to compromise security. There are lots of other types of attacks who's effectiveness depends on how well a server has been setup and what is running on it.


Most attacks leave fingerprints of the activity on the server for people that know where to look.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
20. So, did 10 other people get into her account? Or was it just her...
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:44 PM
May 2016

...accessing the account from other countries?

Thanks for your response, but I really am that bad at IT.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. It's not 100% clear from that one statement.
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:52 PM
May 2016

Also, it's possible for the same people to use different IPs. For example, a single hack from Russia could be reporting data via, say, 4 IP addresses.

Best case, it's Clinton and 9 other authorized people using the server.
Worst case, it's 10 organizations that hacked the server.

It's probably somewhere in the middle of those two.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
23. From the way he describes it probably had nothing to do with her account.
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:52 PM
May 2016

Her access to the server was probably only through connecting to the email software (same way we connect and get our emails). I doubt she would have direct access to the operating system of the server, that's usually IT responsibility to setup and maintain. If the person saw folders on the server then that meant they were either in her email account (an account breach) and were viewing the folders she created for her inbox, or more likely they had direct operating system access (a server breach) and at that level it's doubtful she would even have had access.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
21. Not quite
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

The logs and logger would be modified in this situation in order to hide the connections.

But you can still see where network packets are being sent, if you look hard enough.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
25. That depends on a number of factors.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

1) How compromised a server is. Many hacks don't give full access to a server. Some just compromise software on the server.
2) How much the hacker cares to hide their tracks.
3) How competent the hacker is at covering their tracks.

Not all hackers are highly trained government operatives committing espionage. Some just hack servers because they feel like doing it. Others hack email servers to turn them into spam portals to make money (and or annoy people). I doubt most hackers care if people see their IP's because it's probably going through an anonymous proxy anyways.

4139

(1,893 posts)
7. They did sit on it until FOX was breaking their own story...
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

"For me, it was easy ... easy for me, for everybody," Marcel Lehel Lazar, who goes by the moniker "Guccifer," told Fox News from a Virginia jail where he is being held.

That is why NBC finally did their own old story they were hiding

Hav

(5,969 posts)
8. Timing may be strange
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

But given that NBC also said that he wasn't able to give them any actual proof for his claims, it sort of does make a little bit more sense.
News organizations are usually/ideally(?) more prudent when it comes to reporting. They can't be like members of Twitter or Reddit and just go with a story when it's not backed up because while they like to be the first to report it, they don't want to look like fools.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
28. Puh - leez MSNBC gave up objectivity a long time ago. The only thing they "report" is opinion.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016
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