2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt's looking like NBC sat on the Guccifer story for over a month.
From everything I've read so far the interview was in a Bucharest prison and that would be before he was extradited to the US at the end of March. This was well before the NY primary. Seems odd to wait that long.
I can see editing and production time but this is serious stuff.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Keep up with the excuses.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)You can say what you will but this is a huge story and it was sat on.
I don't know if it would have made a difference or on as I don't have a working chrystal ball.
And you aren't the one to school people on excuses.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)is a real story. They're trying to control our very future.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)as well as embracing Citizens United. But if one wants to be on the winning side, and that's all that matters, the odds are the side with the backing of the billionaires, banksters and Wall Fracking Street crooks. You do know that if you lay with the dogs or lie with the dogs you will get fleas. Can we send Frontline?
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)But of course the MSM (aside from Fox) has been completely ignoring the story. Obviously carrying Clinton's water, so it doesn't surprise me they would sit in the story until Hillary was closer to clinching.
valerief
(53,235 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)A little hesitant to Dan Rather themselves I'm sure.
insta8er
(960 posts)"In the process of mining data from the Blumenthal account, Lazar said he came across evidence that others were on the Clinton server.
"As far as I remember, yes, there were
up to 10, like, IPs from other parts of the world, he said."
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)For a non-IT person.
It seems to suggest he wasn't the only one who hacked it?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Hillary actually tried to open a phishing email that made it to her inbox that had worms with outward IPs going to China, Russia, Germany and Isreal.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)The fact that it made it into her inbox is crazy. The fact that she opened it and seems to have clicked on the zip is mind-boggling!
I have two lotus accounts and I've never received any email like that. The security was ideal at all.
RichVRichV
(885 posts)Servers keep logs of all direct access attempts (successful or failed) with IP addresses of connections. It's a simple matter to parse the log files down to only successful connections. From there it's just a matter of determining if the connection was legitimate or a hack such as brute forcing a password on the root account (always turn off the root and admin accounts on servers, everyone attacks them). That's going through the front door with something like an ssh connection.
There's also other means of hacking a server. One of our email servers was hacked by a buffer overflow attack. In a buffer overflow attack someone sends data in a corrupted manner that pushes a portion of the data outside the memory block allocated for storing that data. By pushing the correct data into the correct memory block they can use it to compromise security. There are lots of other types of attacks who's effectiveness depends on how well a server has been setup and what is running on it.
Most attacks leave fingerprints of the activity on the server for people that know where to look.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...accessing the account from other countries?
Thanks for your response, but I really am that bad at IT.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Also, it's possible for the same people to use different IPs. For example, a single hack from Russia could be reporting data via, say, 4 IP addresses.
Best case, it's Clinton and 9 other authorized people using the server.
Worst case, it's 10 organizations that hacked the server.
It's probably somewhere in the middle of those two.
RichVRichV
(885 posts)Her access to the server was probably only through connecting to the email software (same way we connect and get our emails). I doubt she would have direct access to the operating system of the server, that's usually IT responsibility to setup and maintain. If the person saw folders on the server then that meant they were either in her email account (an account breach) and were viewing the folders she created for her inbox, or more likely they had direct operating system access (a server breach) and at that level it's doubtful she would even have had access.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The logs and logger would be modified in this situation in order to hide the connections.
But you can still see where network packets are being sent, if you look hard enough.
RichVRichV
(885 posts)1) How compromised a server is. Many hacks don't give full access to a server. Some just compromise software on the server.
2) How much the hacker cares to hide their tracks.
3) How competent the hacker is at covering their tracks.
Not all hackers are highly trained government operatives committing espionage. Some just hack servers because they feel like doing it. Others hack email servers to turn them into spam portals to make money (and or annoy people). I doubt most hackers care if people see their IP's because it's probably going through an anonymous proxy anyways.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)4139
(1,893 posts)"For me, it was easy ... easy for me, for everybody," Marcel Lehel Lazar, who goes by the moniker "Guccifer," told Fox News from a Virginia jail where he is being held.
That is why NBC finally did their own old story they were hiding
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)But given that NBC also said that he wasn't able to give them any actual proof for his claims, it sort of does make a little bit more sense.
News organizations are usually/ideally(?) more prudent when it comes to reporting. They can't be like members of Twitter or Reddit and just go with a story when it's not backed up because while they like to be the first to report it, they don't want to look like fools.