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New California poll: Hillary up 49-39 (Original Post) DCBob May 2016 OP
Everyone knows it's over except for Bernie & his busters. grossproffit May 2016 #1
They are suffering from the 3D's... Desperation, Delusion and Denial. DCBob May 2016 #3
According to this poll kcjohn1 May 2016 #2
California is not Indiana. DCBob May 2016 #4
Yea its more progressives and younger state kcjohn1 May 2016 #6
It's also semi closed.. Indiana was open. DCBob May 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author frylock May 2016 #10
its also more diverse with hispanics and AA ie less white DLCWIdem May 2016 #30
Bullshit poll...from the website of the pollster: bobbobbins01 May 2016 #5
Yah, they're all the same. Hucksters to the end. delrem May 2016 #44
Bernie will make that up in a week Skink May 2016 #7
LOL! DCBob May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #11
The poll was taken for those likely to vote in the Democratic primary KingFlorez May 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #15
They were included KingFlorez May 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #22
there actually is an independence party in Ca --- its a confederate party DLCWIdem May 2016 #27
" All responses were collected.. from registered Democrats and No Party Preference voters" DCBob May 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #17
The first statement in the report says they did. DCBob May 2016 #20
Independent and No Party Preference is the same thing KingFlorez May 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #23
AIP CANNOT VOTE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY KingFlorez May 2016 #25
thereis some kind of independent party in CA which is a confederate party. DLCWIdem May 2016 #28
DId you finally realize what AIP.is? DCBob May 2016 #32
AIP california independence party DLCWIdem May 2016 #29
And when you consider this, it should be an even wider margin KingFlorez May 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #18
You've been told that this is misleading more than once KingFlorez May 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #24
If they weren't included how is there any data about Sanders leading by 15% among independents? KingFlorez May 2016 #26
Yup. Starry Messenger May 2016 #31
Good....... Beacool May 2016 #33
Dream on, Hillary can't even get an audience in CA. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #34
She gets targeted audiences, and several per day. ucrdem May 2016 #37
All 6 of them, wow. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #38
6 superdelegates = South Carolina. ucrdem May 2016 #39
Are they traveling with her now? Silly attempt at misdirection. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #40
Wow! workinclasszero May 2016 #35
I'm sure his supporters speaking "f#ck you" to children isn't helping his cause with parents. nt nolawarlock May 2016 #36
THINK OF TFHE CHILDREN. And by all means protect them from 'free speech'. We can't have them Live and Learn May 2016 #41
Have it your way. nolawarlock May 2016 #42
Folks like you, you mean? The rest of us will be either celebrating our chance at a future with Live and Learn May 2016 #43
Will I? nolawarlock May 2016 #45
Is someone forcing you to stay there? If not, quit whining and get involved or move. Live and Learn May 2016 #46
Wait to change the subject. nolawarlock May 2016 #47

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
2. According to this poll
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:48 PM
May 2016

72% of the voters will be 45+.

Indiana only 55% of the voters were above 45. It also has 65+ bracket making 27% of the total voters, which is nearly double what we saw in Indiana.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
6. Yea its more progressives and younger state
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:57 PM
May 2016

I would expect 50%/50% split between those under 45 and those over.

Response to DCBob (Reply #9)

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
5. Bullshit poll...from the website of the pollster:
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

"We serve as political consultants and public opinion researchers; conducting quantitative and qualitative research and analyzing results in order to create a strategy to help clients achieve their goals – whether that’s winning elections, changing views on key issues or increasing market share."

"Our clients include political candidates and candidate support organizations, ballot measure committees, issue advocacy groups, labor unions and government agencies as well as corporations and business interests."

Response to DCBob (Original post)

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
13. The poll was taken for those likely to vote in the Democratic primary
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

It didn't say anything about independents being excluded from the poll. If it excluded independents, there wouldn't have been any data on how independents will vote.

NPP and Independent are the same thing. Independent isn't a party and neither is NPP, both are just terms for voters who don't align with a party.

Response to KingFlorez (Reply #13)

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
16. They were included
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

You are trying to say that the pollster did something nefarious, but your argument just is not true. The data for independents is there, so they were polled.

Response to KingFlorez (Reply #16)

Response to DCBob (Reply #14)

Response to KingFlorez (Reply #21)

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
25. AIP CANNOT VOTE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:34 PM
May 2016

No legitimate poll would include American Independent Party voters, because they can't vote in the Democratic primary. They would have to switch to Decline to State or Democratic. California is a semi-closed primary.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
29. AIP california independence party
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

Hey guys we been laughing at you for a month now, because you wont listen to us because we are stupid. Even now you are not listening to us and telling us to educate ourselves. California has a independent party it is a super right confederarate party which issues are segregation, anti abortion and anti gay. Now npr just did a study and polled members 70% thought they were registering for a different kind of party. This AIP party cannot participate in the Democratic voting. So if I were you I would go educate myself. Go to Npr and find out for yourself.

Response to KingFlorez (Reply #12)

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
19. You've been told that this is misleading more than once
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016

Just stop. You are not telling the truth about the methodology of the poll.

Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
31. Yup.
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016

CA Poll: Bernie up with independents, but Hillary still holds sway
http://capitolweekly.net/hillary-bernie-independents-poll-california/



<snip>

But this group of new registrants is far smaller, only 16% of the number of likely voters. If that entire group were to vote, and favor Sanders by an 80%-to-20% margin, it would almost close the current gap. Our data — admittedly a small sample – shows Sanders leading Clinton in this group by 67%-27%.

That Sanders advantage could be blunted by any higher-than-expected turnout of African-American and Latino voters, where Clinton has a decided advantage.

<snip>

In our survey, one-third of NPP voters said they did not plan to vote in the Democratic presidential primary. The remainder is evenly split between re-registering as Republicans or not casting a presidential vote.

That alone takes the NPP percentage under 20%.

Then there is the additional issue for NPP voters described in depth on this site last week – the half of NPP voters who are Permanent Absentee Voters and must fill out and return a card to their County Clerk requesting the Democratic presidential ballot. As Paul Mitchell pointed out, the return rate has been anemic thus far. If half of these voters don’t end up with a Democratic presidential ballot, the NPP percentage for that election falls to around 15%.

<snip>

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
37. She gets targeted audiences, and several per day.
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:58 AM
May 2016

For example on Thursday, the same day as the ELAC speech, she met with local Dem representatives at the African American Museum in LA:

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
41. THINK OF TFHE CHILDREN. And by all means protect them from 'free speech'. We can't have them
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:11 AM
May 2016

hearing what that PERSON said.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
42. Have it your way.
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:46 AM
May 2016

I'm just sure when they're looking at all the reasons he couldn't pull of a win, that's the kind of behavior folks will remember.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
43. Folks like you, you mean? The rest of us will be either celebrating our chance at a future with
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:04 AM
May 2016

a Bernie win or working to stop whatever asinine policies are put forth. Which, by the way, you will be responsible for if they are made by Hillary.

One thing is for sure, we are not going away. Bank on that.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
45. Will I?
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:26 AM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 7, 2016, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I live on a red state. My vote will not really matter of I vote Republican and that's not ever happening

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
46. Is someone forcing you to stay there? If not, quit whining and get involved or move.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:32 AM
May 2016

I've been waiting for some Hillary supporters to show up in CA. By the way, don't bother trying to recruit Hillary supporters on DU, they are all post and no show from what I have seen.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
47. Wait to change the subject.
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

I love where I live but I also realize my vote probably isn't going to mean much. I live in a very liberal city so protesting here isn't going to mean much either and I'd rather avoid the swamps if I can.

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