Susan Sarandon: I’m more afraid of Hillary’s war record than Trump’s wall

[TomCADem]

Susan Sarandon once again evicerates Hillary on the Colbert show:

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/susan-sarandon-im-more-afraid-of-hillarys-war-record-than-trumps-wall/

She suggested Sanders could win the Democratic nomination at a contested convention on the strength of his ideas.

“We’re going to have to have a contested one, and what’s going to happen is that people are going to have to discuss the whole process and the platform, and really listen to people that they’re not normally listening to,” Sarandon said.

The actress has drawn criticism for suggesting she would rather see Donald Trump elected than Hillary Clinton, if Sanders fails to win the Democratic presidential nomination — but she claimed her words were taken out of context.

“Wait a minute — I said some people say (Trump would bring the revolution faster),” Sarandon said. “I’m more afraid of, actually, Hillary Clinton’s war record and her hawkishness than I am of building a wall, but that doesn’t mean that I would vote for Trump.”

[WhiteTara]

1. She liked Ralph Nadir too.

Why doesn't she run for office and then her comments might have some weight.

[LeFleur1]

32. It Seems

She'd probably have to take a few courses in government because she doesn't seem to know how it works.

[brush]

36. Someone in the Bernie camp need to tell her to STFU as she's costing him votes.

[Stuckinthebush]

48. That worked out well for the world, didn't it

Some celebrities are just are too smart by half

[rhett o rick]

56. I like Ralph Nader also. He is a great man. The sad weak Democrats that chose

to back the continuation of the DLC Clinton/Gore by nominating Gore blew it and looked for a scape goat. Someone that had every right to run for president. Apparently it doesn't matter that millions of eligible voters stayed home because they didn't like the choice, doesn't matter that Jeb Bush and the Republicon Party manipulated the Florida voting, and it doesn't matter that the SCOTUS took unconstitutional action to appoint Bush. Nope the nitwits blame Nader.

[Snotcicles]

57. +1.nt

[WhiteTara]

64. Nadir is dishonest and has been a republicon

since the beginning. He didn't even bother to change parties when he ran on the green ticket. Calling people who see Nadir for what he is names is what is sad.

[NorthCarolina]

66. FYI, Hillary has been a "republicon" too. nt

[WhiteTara]

69. Elizabeth Warren only switched in her adult years

Hillary did as a teenager. Nadir is STILL a republicon and works to dismantle our society.

[NorthCarolina]

70. Well

Clintonomics has served well to dismantle the middle class. Is that not on the same level as your claim of Nader "dismantling society"?

[WhiteTara]

73. George Bush plundered the entire country

and threw us all into chaos. Nadir could have worked to move the country to the left with his campaign, but he delighted in the fact that he was, as he put it, "giving them what they deserve."

No, Nadir is in a class of his own and deserves what ever place in hell that he will rest.

[mcar]

72. This!

So tired of the Hillary was a Republican meme. But of course we can't bring up anything Bernie did, wrote or said even into his 30s.

[pinebox]

74. Nader isn't a Republican, quit the bullshit

[Iliyah]

2. Soooooo, she trust T-rump to hold that suitcase?

Make room for me and hundreds of family members in your bunker ok.

[still_one]

26. Susan Sarandon's candidate won Indiana, if you know what I mean, because the Democratic nominee is

going to be Hillary

[DURHAM D]

3. Susan Sarandon knows as much about the Democratic Convention

and the Democratic party as a pig knows about Sunday.

jftr - I love pigs.

[TomCADem]

6. Plus, Don't Bernie and Trump Both Have The Same Trade Policy?

I think both have proposed to fight for America by tearing up trade agreements and imposing large tariffs on goods coming from China, which would help grow manufacturing at home.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-trade/

[leveymg]

5. Both presumptive candidates are scary as hell. Pick your poison.

That's no choice.

[redstateblues]

10. Saying Trump and Hillary are the same makes you look foolish

[SheenaR]

12. They didn't say that though

So your point is moot

[redstateblues]

27. Not in so many words-but yes they did

[Katashi_itto]

84. They are not the same, ones a narcissistic Fascist the other, a power mad Corporate Oligarchist.

I mean, jeezus it's easy to tell them apart. One wears a wig.

[JTFrog]

7. That makes her a fucking idiot.

Fuck Trump.

[Stuckinthebush]

49. Best analysis yet

I concur. She's a fine actor but a fucking idiot when it comes to politics. Oh, well. I'll still watch her movies.

[anigbrowl]

8. I always go to Susan Sarandon for my political opinions

With all due respect, it's not like anyone is going to be kicking her door in if Trump is elected president.

[TNProfessor]

9. She is a damn fool. Nt

[redstateblues]

11. Naderite says what?

[SheenaR]

13. The last paragraph.

it's a fair assessment. And she never says she would vote for him. Unpopular opinions about the frontrunner are apparently illegal here

[Tarc]

14. Then I'd have to classify Susan Sarandon as an anti-Hispanic bigot, right alohnside Trump

There's no wiggle room on this one, what a repulsive human being.

[CanadaexPat]

42. Why is racism only a domestic issue?

Doesn't routinely dropping bombs on darker skinned people count as racism?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

75. If we were dropping bombs because they were brown, yes.

But we're not.

[AgerolanAmerican]

76. Hillary will drop only humanitarian bombs of love on brown people

and they will celebrate in the streets and throw flowers as US forces are greeted as libertators!

[Dr Hobbitstein]

77. .

[cpwm17]

82. She chooses to murder brown people because she can get away with it

and people will still vote for her.

Would you still vote for Hillary if she helped murder white people from England, Germany, or California instead of Iraq or Libya?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

83. That depends.

Is Qadaffi a dictator in England, Germany, or Cali? If so, yes. Seeing as the US govt didn't have troops in Libya.

I was against the 2nd Iraq War. Hillary made a bad call there, and I've said such before. But I'm not a single issue voter.

[cpwm17]

85. Great Britain has nukes (genuine WMD's) and a history of aggressive war.

Would you still vote for Hillary if she had helped destroy Great Britain and ruin the lives of countless white people?

Libyans had the best standard of living in Africa before Qaddafi was taken out. Qaddafi needed to stay.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

87. Well, she didn't. She helped out an oppressed people in Libya.

It resulted in taking a terrible murderous fuck out of power. I'm cool with that. It wasn't racism. There was a HUGE uproar in Libya (Arab Spring, remember?). We helped NATO troops.
I don't weep for Qadaffi. If the British Prime Minister started executing Britons because they were the wrong religion or dissented, I would want him out of power, too.

You have a hard on for making this about race.

[cpwm17]

89. The proof is in the pudding.

Taking out Qaddafi has been a disaster, and so has the unprovoked war again Iraq, which Hillary strongly supported. In the real world those are war crimes and they are also mass-murder, which should disqualify anyone from being president.

If Hillary was involved in the mass-murder against white people, she wouldn't be considered for president.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

90. Race race race race.

The only one making this about race is you.

[cpwm17]

94. Another great big yawn over unprovoked mass-murder from a Hillary supporter.

Mass-murder: no big deal, let's make her president.

The lives of those people in Iraq and Libya must not mean anything to you. What property do they possess that makes their lives so unimportant to you?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

95. Hillary didn't kill anyone.

But you know that. Are you really saying that NATO shouldn't have helped out a country that was rebelling against a murderous dictator (Qadaffi)?

[cpwm17]

96. The Iraq war was the world's worst crime this century.

People are responsible. Hillary was in the Senate and enthusiastically supported that aggressive war. Hillary is responsible for her crime.

Hillary helped destroy Libya. As I wrote earlier, the Libyans had the highest standard of living in Africa with Qaddafi in charge. Now it's a disaster area.

You call Qaddafi a murderous dictator, but you don't seem to have much of a problem with mass-murderers in the US government. You are very selective on what murderers you care about.

[yourpaljoey]

15. she is wicked smart... listen!

[COLGATE4]

46. Yep. I always take advice from people that say "wicked smart".

The hallmark of a quality education.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

67. Snort.

[Stuckinthebush]

52. Oh, brilliant.

Just brilliant. Great analysis of the two candidates by Ms Sarandon. I'm surprised she isn't a Mensa member

[DemocratSinceBirth]

80. Her partner in Thelma and Louise is a Mensa member. She should weigh in

Though the Massachusetts native initially enrolled at New England College, Davis eventually transferred to Boston University, where she worked part-time for the Media Group. The six-foot-tall Mensa member, whose reported IQ score is 140, eventually graduated from BU with a bachelor's degree in drama in 1979.Oct 17, 2009
A-List Mensa Members - The Daily Beast
www.thedailybeast.com/.../10/.../a-list-mensa-members.htmlThe Daily Beast

[Stuckinthebush]

81. I did not know that

I like her acting as well.

[dubyadiprecession]

16. Once Trump starts running his mouth on women again...

and hillary takes him down. Susan will have nothing but nice things to say about hillary.

[redstateblues]

30. Bullshit-That old smear-Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress

equating them makes you look foolish and uninformed

[thucythucy]

37. And he's for torturing the families of suspected terrorists

and building a wall to keep out foreigners
and supports his supporters beating up people of color
and treats women like they're subhuman
and runs scams to rip off college students
and outsources jobs to China
and uses racist and sexist language
and has run multiple businesses into the ground
and has Mafia connections in New York
and wants to "punish" women for having abortions
and maintains the President of the United States isn't a US citizen
and claims Ted Cruz's father shot JFK
and would probably nuke half the planet if he had a chance

but you feel comfortable sitting this one out. And joined this discussion just to say that.

Given a choice, I'll take a middle of the road Dem over "a fascist-maniac" any day of the week.

I can possibly survive another middle of the road Dem.

I doubt many of us will survive "a fascist-maniac" with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

Must be nice, though, not feeling at all threatened by the possibility of "a fascist-maniac" in the White House. Whereas I know, if he's elected, chances are people like me will be beaten in the streets. Hell, I can't even show at a Trump rally without risking a beating. Funny, I don't feel that same sense of danger at a Hillary rally.

But by all means, sit this one out. You can tell your grandchildren how you refused to help stop a "fascist maniac" from holding supreme executive power, because couldn't be bothered to show up and vote.

[LeFleur1]

38. See

It's misinformation like this that cause people to back away from Sanders supporters.

Hillary did not refuse 15.00 an hour minimum wage. It's a state issue. Federal would be at least 12.00 to begin with and states could go to 15.00 or whatever they think they could afford without putting people out of business.
She would try to convince Congress that free tuition for two year public colleges would be the way to go. After two years, if college suited the enrolled, they could work a certain number of hours a week for tuition. It would be a good responsible action. Not free, but good.
She wants regulations that work for banks and places where pensions are invested.
She is NOT for privatization of prisons.
She believes the death penalty should be only for horrendous crimes against people where there is absolutely NO doubt, only proof of guilt.

She is a strong Democrat and has been since her teen years. She has belonged to the party forever, and worked for the people, making a huge difference for many. She has never been an Independent.

You don't have to like her, or vote for her, but lying about her doesn't make her look bad, it could, however, cast aspersions on you.

[lovemydog]

59. Great post.

She's also about equal to Sanders in truth-telling. Both Sanders and Clinton are miles ahead of Trump and most every republican in that regard.

[Buzz Clik]

18. Susan is trying her hand at melodrama. It doesn't suit her.

[amborin]

19. Hillary ALREADY voted many times to build a wall; ACTIONS, not words

Trump would never be able to construct a wall. There is no will for it and it would never happen. He's a blowhard.

Obama has been deporting members of families and breaking up families for the past 7+ years.

Trump is horrible, no question. But Hillary is capable of starting WW3. She has caused incredible
suffering. Look at the 100s of thousands of war refugees who are homeless and suffering. ETC

[Happyhippychick]

20. The only objection she has to Trump is the wall?

That says everything about her I need to know. She's small minded

[BreakfastClub]

21. She's an idiot. nt

[ecstatic]

47. Exactly. It's time to stop sugarcoating stupidity. Susan has been making an

ass out of herself for weeks now. She's a f*cking idiot who's no longer worth discussing.

[onehandle]

23. Multi-millionaire Naderite says something.

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[SidDithers]

24. ...

Sid

[BillZBubb]

31. Welcome to DU PA. Nice post.

I bet you don't get an explanation. You might get evasion or false equivalency, but no serious answer.

[revmclaren]

54. Your welcome and nice post went to a now banned troll...

You pick your candidates the same way?

Sorry, self answered question.

[LanternWaste]

92. Is not the current meme, we are judged by those with who we associate?

Is not the current meme, we are judged by those with who we associate? Your friendly association with a banned troll is either a) an accurate illustration of that or b) insert creative rationalization here to pretend otherwise.

I'm hoping the answer is B-- maintaining an irrational pretense is bemusing to observe

[redstateblues]

34. another lo poster for Bernie. Welcome to DU! The last Clinton Presidency was 8 years of

peace and prosperity. Bet all you remember about that you learned on DU.

[SidDithers]

43. Welcome to DU...

Edit:

Awwww, you've been banned again, already.



Sid

[Metric System]

28. That wall comment reeks of privilege. I have no doubt Trump's wall would have no effect on her.

[Dem2]

29. Your opinion is noted, Susan Saran Wrap

[uponit7771]

33. Sounds person with her

[thucythucy]

39. "I'm not advocating for a Trump" presidency

but almost all if not all your posts have been anti-Clinton, telling us you won't vote for her etc. etc.

We get it, you hate Clinton. And don't feel at all personally threatened by the possibility of a Trump presidency.

Some of us here don't have that luxury.

BTW, I voted for Bernie in my state's primary. But if Clinton is the nominee, I'll crawl over cut glass to cast my vote for her.

But that's just me. You do--or don't do--what you feel right. Just don't expect me to raise a big cheer for someone who chooses NOT to oppose someone as foul, as racist and sexist, as Trump.

[JTFrog]

44. So you enjoy liberal economic and socially conservative policies?

Sounds pretty Republican to me.

[thucythucy]

45. Actually I do.

I like how she fought for the nutrition program for children living in poverty. That alone is a big plus for me. It has benefited millions of kids over the course of very many years. That may not mean much to you, but it means quite a lot to people I know personally.

She voted for the Ledbetter law, which helps women in the work place. Again, probably doesn't mean much to you.

She supports paid maternal leave.

She's strongly pro-choice.

She's worked to include people of color in her campaign and in her state department. Look at her rallies. Compare them to Trump events. Hell, compare them to most of Bernie's. Ever wonder why so many African Americans support Clinton?

Anyway, like I said, I supported Bernie in my primary, so your crack about me "enjoying conservative economics" is way off the mark.

But if it comes down to a choice between Clinton and Trump, there's no way I'll sit this out.

The fact that you feel so comfortable on your moral high ground just tells me you're one of the elite who doesn't feel at all threatened by the prospect of a "fascist maniac" -- in your own words -- appointing judges, including Supreme Court judges, issuing executive orders, and controlling the entire apparatus of the federal executive. YOU don't feel threatened by a Trump presidency that would empower racists, misogynists, and anti-Latino violence. YOU are privileged enough to be able to say "a pox on both your houses" as if nothing Trump will do will hurt you personally.

Unfortunately I, and millions of others like me, don't have that luxury.

And I'm not "center right." Someone telling me they can't see the danger of a "fascist maniac" in the White House comes closer to being "center right" than me or any of the people I support. Actually, far right might be more accurate.

I've been through this drill before. I remember "progressives" telling me there was no difference between Reagan and Carter. I remember "progressives" telling me there was no difference between Gore and Dubya. Both of those were supposed to be "lesser of two evils" choices. But both Reagan and Bush II were disasters for everything progressives are supposed to hold dear.

Trump will be exponentially worse. The single most important thing any progressive can do now is to work as much as they can to keep Trump out of office. I'd prefer Bernie be the Democratic nominee, but if voting for Clinton is what I have to do to keep Trump out of office, then so be it.

[lunamagica]

41. Why would that privileged, entitled idiot fear a wall? How would that affect her?

[KingFlorez]

50. The wall wouldn't effect her

She's a financially secure elite in the celebrity world.

[Ed Suspicious]

51. She is so on point.

[Scurrilous]

53. That soundbite should play well w/ Hispanic voters.

Way to evicerate Susan.

[thucythucy]

55. I wonder what Trump's war record will be like

once elected.

She honestly thinks a guy who encourages his supporters to beat on people who don't support him will be some kind of enlightened pacifist, once elected?

[Ned_Devine]

58. If you want to read moronic HRC supporter comments, just read every post before mine

[LanternWaste]

93. You spelled everything correctly. Nice job!

You spelled everything correctly. Nice job!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

60. She's right.

[Starry Messenger]

61. She has no Latino friends, I guess.

Or Muslim, or women, or anyone else cool. That's sad.

[kevinmc]

62. I'm more afraid of Trump Nuking and Torturing people on a mood swing n/t

[nolawarlock]

63. I'm more afraid of Susan Sarandon.

I'm just shocked she survived going off the cliff.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. Why am I not...

She suggested Sanders could win the Democratic nomination at a contested convention on the strength of his ideas.

Why am I not surprised that a white woman with a $50,000,000 net worth would so cavalierly want to overturn the will of of other women and people of color who have given Hillary Clinton her "yuge" popular vote majority.

[FSogol]

68. Did she miss where Trump promised to attack ISIS and use ground troops if necessary?

[mcar]

71. Well OK then

[Mike Nelson]

78. Susan should rethink that...

...Hillary will follow Obama's war record, not Bush's... and Susan should think about how Trump plans to eliminate ISIS. I believe Susan is probably playing politics for Bernie.

[Gothmog]

79. Who cares what this dingbat thinks-she supported Nader

[boston bean]

86. She is out of her fucking mind. Looney tunes, that one!

[workinclasszero]

88. This should help out Sanders in California

I guess Susan Sarandon really loves her some Trump.

[EndElectoral]

91. While I agree with SS statement, I don't think we need to choose either or