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yodermon

(6,143 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:49 AM May 2016

Guccifer is freaking insane, full stop.

“I have the secret journal of the Rockefellers – I’ve taken it from a member of the Illuminati and ran a metadata analysis to verify it’s genuine.”
...
He took the axe to his laptop and phone, a scene he would later describe to me, in vivid detail, from prison. "It was a special laptop which was passed to me by a French intelligence connection, who had it from the Pentagon."
...
He drifts back into conspiracy, this time with a touch of antisemitism: “Wherever I investigate I find Jews and freemasons in the highest circles. I’ve hit upon secrets in the attempt to unmask the society of the enlightened.”


https://pando.com/2015/03/20/exclusive-interview-jailed-hacker-guccifer-boasts-i-used-to-read-hillarys-memos-for-six-seven-hours-and-then-do-the-gardening/

Just thought I'd pass that along.
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Guccifer is freaking insane, full stop. (Original Post) yodermon May 2016 OP
Seriously KingFlorez May 2016 #1
Spend a couple years in a Romanian jail and you'd be mush too leveymg May 2016 #2
This! NWCorona May 2016 #11
It's a proven fact that he hacked Sidney Blumenthal's account. It's not a stretch for him to have w4rma May 2016 #3
FFS it was an AOL account, and he "hacked" it by knowing Blumenthal's dog's name Recursion May 2016 #19
And Hillary's domain name was ClintonEmail.com pdsimdars May 2016 #20
OK, so what customer service rep would he have fooled by calling up and knowing their dog's name? Recursion May 2016 #21
That's not a hack ... A hack is when you bypass the code not a crack is when you use brute force uponit7771 May 2016 #27
Social engineering metroins May 2016 #32
The term you're looking for is called "social engineering" headonshoulder May 2016 #37
You are wrong, as usual, uponit7771 w4rma May 2016 #40
no I'm not, google it.. sigh.. or just don't who gives a shit? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #41
damn, dude is nuts... bobbobbins01 May 2016 #4
Guccifer protective order? CentralCoaster May 2016 #14
He got some of the Rockefellers photo albums too... bobbobbins01 May 2016 #5
Sure some of these guys TM99 May 2016 #6
Psych Kalidurga May 2016 #8
GMTA! TM99 May 2016 #9
Right, since there's evidence of it (and he passed it around). yodermon May 2016 #10
They could TM99 May 2016 #12
Yes he is insane Kalidurga May 2016 #7
And the point is not if he is sane or insane. The question is jwirr May 2016 #42
The two aren't mutually exclusive Kalidurga May 2016 #43
Yes. My brother who is bi-polar can come up with some jwirr May 2016 #44
I could hack the way they describe Gruccifer's hacking Kalidurga May 2016 #45
“Wherever I investigate I find Jews and freemasons in the highest circles." Scurrilous May 2016 #13
What a piece of shit. Shame on those propagating this forum with his sick propaganda. grossproffit May 2016 #29
Yet the FBI went to quite a lot of trouble to get him into custody. Peace Patriot May 2016 #15
That's well put. n/t Ghost Dog May 2016 #35
The Illuminati??? nolawarlock May 2016 #16
And blaming Jews. This place has jumped the shark. grossproffit May 2016 #30
All FBI needs from him is for probable cause unc70 May 2016 #17
Oh my. That's quite, um, SPECIAL, isn't it. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #18
And this is always true pdsimdars May 2016 #22
Because the dude's best freinds are sea monkeys and he has Maru Kitteh May 2016 #23
Conspiracy theories are de rigueur on GD:P these days baldguy May 2016 #24
By all means leftynyc May 2016 #25
Not surprising to me at all. grossproffit May 2016 #26
And many Sanders fans love this nutcase!! He is being used as fodder to smear Hillary. riversedge May 2016 #28
Guess we'll have to wait and see what he's got. Vinca May 2016 #31
Wow, so Mr. Curveball 2.0 here is a conspiracy freak and and has an issue with Jewish people Tarc May 2016 #33
Like I said in other threads, the man is a narcissist and his latest claim defies logic wyldwolf May 2016 #34
kick wyldwolf May 2016 #36
Yet his ravings will be considered the highest of standards if it serves a political bias well. LanternWaste May 2016 #38
There's an obvious overlap between the worst of the anti-Hillary posters Codeine May 2016 #39

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Spend a couple years in a Romanian jail and you'd be mush too
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:56 AM
May 2016

This is a common problem with special category detainees. Just look at the before and after pictures of KSM.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
3. It's a proven fact that he hacked Sidney Blumenthal's account. It's not a stretch for him to have
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:57 AM
May 2016

followed Hillary's e-mails back to her private server and hacked it, too. Especially during the period of time that her server was, quite possibly, unmanaged by anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer#Hacking_of_politicians.27_accounts_2

You have to be a bit crazy to even bother with doing these things for no real personal gain.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. FFS it was an AOL account, and he "hacked" it by knowing Blumenthal's dog's name
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:51 AM
May 2016

Yes, that is a "stretch".

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
27. That's not a hack ... A hack is when you bypass the code not a crack is when you use brute force
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:54 AM
May 2016

... or dictionary to get into someones account.

In this case it was a lucky guess

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
40. You are wrong, as usual, uponit7771
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

One example of social engineering is an individual who walks into a building and posts an official-looking announcement to the company bulletin that says the number for the help desk has changed. So, when employees call for help the individual asks them for their passwords and IDs thereby gaining the ability to access the company's private information. Another example of social engineering would be that the hacker contacts the target on a social networking site and starts a conversation with the target. Slowly and gradually, the hacker gains trust of the target and then uses it to get access to sensitive information like password or bank account details.

Other types

Common confidence tricksters or fraudsters also could be considered "social engineers" in the wider sense, in that they deliberately deceive and manipulate people, exploiting human weaknesses to obtain personal benefit. They may, for example, use social engineering techniques as part of an IT fraud.

A very recent type of social engineering technique includes spoofing or hacking IDs of people having popular e-mail IDs such as Yahoo!, Gmail, Hotmail, etc. Among the many motivations for deception are:

• Phishing credit-card account numbers and their passwords.
• Cracking private e-mails and chat histories, and manipulating them by using common editing techniques before using them to extort money and creating distrust among individuals.
• Cracking websites of companies or organizations and destroying their reputation.
• Computer virus hoaxes
• Convincing users to run malicious code within the web browser via self-XSS attack to allow access to their web account

Source

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
5. He got some of the Rockefellers photo albums too...
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:07 AM
May 2016

but nothing I'd say is a secret journal...there is a dump of a lot of the stuff he hacked here:

http://cryptome.org/2014/01/guccifer-cryptome.htm

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
6. Sure some of these guys
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:07 AM
May 2016

are 'insane' but it doesn't mean that they can't do what they do.

We already have proof he hacked Blumenthal.

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
10. Right, since there's evidence of it (and he passed it around).
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:15 AM
May 2016

His latest claims could be more delusions though.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
12. They could
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:25 AM
May 2016

and they could not.

Presumably they will corroborate any spoken testimony with actual evidence in the ongoing investigation.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. Yes he is insane
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:08 AM
May 2016

Highly intelligent people with little to no outlets for their talents and who work far below their capabilities can and often do go what lay people call insane.

This doesn't mean he didn't hack Hillary's emails. It doesn't mean he has no moments of lucidity. He can still have moments where he breaks from reality and still be a very competent "hacker" researcher who just wants to have fun reading stuff he isn't supposed to.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
42. And the point is not if he is sane or insane. The question is
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:55 PM
May 2016

was he able to hack into her computer? The state of his mind is not the problem.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
43. The two aren't mutually exclusive
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:38 PM
May 2016

My theory is more intelligent people are more likely to be insane under certain conditions. It looks like he met those.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
44. Yes. My brother who is bi-polar can come up with some
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

pretty hair brained theories at times but it is more that he is over thinking issues than that he is ignorant of them. IF he wanted to he could be a very good hacker and somehow fold it all into the whole.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
45. I could hack the way they describe Gruccifer's hacking
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

For example if I knew someone was a huge Elton John fan I would try names of his songs or his name eventually that would probably work. There are other ways of course.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
13. “Wherever I investigate I find Jews and freemasons in the highest circles."
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:28 AM
May 2016

Yeah...let's believe him.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
15. Yet the FBI went to quite a lot of trouble to get him into custody.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:42 AM
May 2016

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People can fake being crazy, you know. And people can be crazy and still be good hackers.

I read the whole article, and favor the latter--a bit crazy, but a lot of it is just talk to get a rise out of his listener; more "chip on his shoulder" than crazy, I think, being as smart as he is and not getting anywhere in life, except his fame for clever and personally pointless hacking (not after money; no political agenda that I can discern, but ego boost from fame). And a good hacker except he got caught, so not that good. He's a character, for sure.

I've met guys like him--too rebellious for school, limited education, but smart (this guy learned three languages on his own, as well as methodical information research, computers and hacking), casually racist in a way that is more "chip on his shoulder" than real hatred, and tending toward conspiracies that sound nutty but that mask the real conspiracies of the rich against the poor, that have left someone this smart guy out of the "global economy" because he was too poor to get the help that he needed when he was young (whether psychological, or counseling, or a good, creative alternative school for rebels--the kind that rich kids are sent to, when they mess up) or because his country is too exploited and oppressed to provide jobs for talented (if eccentric) people.

Guccifer is not a criminal type, from what I can glean from this article. Nor are the other guys I've met who are much like him. They've just been left out and can't find a way to express that except in wild talk about pretty stale conspiracy theories.

I leave it to the FBI to sort him out. They're the ones who extradited him and they must have their reasons.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
16. The Illuminati???
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

Really????

That's a conspiracy theory that just keeps getting more and more ridiculous. The so-called Illuminati started out as an anti-semitic conspiracy theory about rich, Jewish families like the Rothschilds controlling the word and manipulated by Satan himself. Now, it's devolved from that into a racist and considerably diminished conspiracy theory where the entire music industry is controlled by Jay-Z and Beyonce. How far the mighty and imaginary Illuminati have fallen.

For Guccifer to bring the Illuminati into this demolishes his credibility entirely.

unc70

(6,110 posts)
17. All FBI needs from him is for probable cause
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:06 AM
May 2016

The minimum thing they need him for us to establish the basis for the Blumenthal emails. It is through those emails that the Clinton server was revealed. That sequence is important for establishing probable cause for further criminal investigations.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
23. Because the dude's best freinds are sea monkeys and he has
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:05 AM
May 2016

the secret Illuminati key to Bigfoot's gym locker?

okie-dokie then.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
24. Conspiracy theories are de rigueur on GD:P these days
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:33 AM
May 2016

The more unsubstantiated & insane, the better. Just as long as it harms Clinton or the Democratic Party.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
25. By all means
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:51 AM
May 2016

Let all the anti-Clinton people wrap their arms around this scum. Jews and freemasons? Yeah, just the guy I want to have in my corner.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
31. Guess we'll have to wait and see what he's got.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

If he produces the goods, nuts or not, it won't be a positive thing for the general election.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
33. Wow, so Mr. Curveball 2.0 here is a conspiracy freak and and has an issue with Jewish people
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:41 AM
May 2016

I said last night that this thing was going to blow up on the Sanders camp like the Killian Documents torpedoed Dan Rather. Looks like this was the first eruption.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
34. Like I said in other threads, the man is a narcissist and his latest claim defies logic
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

Bernie followers, though, are eager to lap it up.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
38. Yet his ravings will be considered the highest of standards if it serves a political bias well.
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:42 AM
May 2016

Yet his ravings will be considered the highest of standards if it serves a political bias well.

Freemasons-- there it is.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
39. There's an obvious overlap between the worst of the anti-Hillary posters
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

and the DU Jonny Joozdidit Brigade. Evoking the Sooper Seekrit Jewish Bankster Cabal is like red meat for that sort. This article will only enhance their admiration for "Guccifer".

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