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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:01 AM May 2016

Pivoting to the GE is a brilliant campaign strategy for Hillary.

it allows her to go on the attack in a way she could never have with Bernie.

it frames the national discussion as Hillary vs Trump rather than Hillary vs Bernie, making Bernie seem almost irrelevant.

it forces people to really really imagine Trump in the oval office and on Air Force One, and she is the Only Hope to stop him.

it brings people back to reality instead of dreams of unicorns.

Brilliant.

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Pivoting to the GE is a brilliant campaign strategy for Hillary. (Original Post) hill2016 May 2016 OP
Punch and Judy... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #1
+10,000 nt Live and Learn May 2016 #4
.. frylock May 2016 #33
Yawn PowerToThePeople May 2016 #2
+10,000 nt Live and Learn May 2016 #3
+10,001 840high May 2016 #10
i think it's a given that her strategy will be brilliant Enrique May 2016 #5
I agree on all counts. nolawarlock May 2016 #8
We have principles in common, could have fooled me Exactly what are those? Live and Learn May 2016 #13
Do you know? nt nolawarlock May 2016 #17
I asked first. Answer or admit you don't know. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #18
I might admit I don't care lol nolawarlock May 2016 #20
She is ready on day one! Trump? nt fun n serious May 2016 #15
Thank goodness too! nt fun n serious May 2016 #14
A stroke of genius that she invented. No one has ever done it before at this stage. No, really! merrily May 2016 #6
Trump is an awful man and a bigot Armstead May 2016 #25
She is already kicking Trump ass! nolawarlock May 2016 #7
Hillary Clinton’s New Anti-Trump Attack Ad Is a Colossal Failure w4rma May 2016 #12
Of course you would say that. nolawarlock May 2016 #16
You were already supporting her. But, who is her ad supposed to be convincing to support her? w4rma May 2016 #19
I disagree. nolawarlock May 2016 #21
yes Mitt and Jeb have been really effective at stopping his rise Armstead May 2016 #26
I see it as showing him as not being a team player ... nolawarlock May 2016 #35
I thought it was a great ad apcalc May 2016 #27
The other great thing it does is get Sanders out of the news. On the evening MSNBC shows tonight, anotherproletariat May 2016 #9
Actually,it's a relief not hearing the same old, tired "oligarchy" tune. nt oasis May 2016 #22
America is an Oligarchy. Wealth ahd power are far too concentrated. Armstead May 2016 #30
well trump will keep bernie in the news by quoting bernie's smears against hillary nt msongs May 2016 #11
No need for her to punch down. NurseJackie May 2016 #23
It Allows Her To Duck The Real Issues That We Need To Address & .... global1 May 2016 #24
That's right bring people back to the reality rhett o rick May 2016 #28
Well, somebody's got to do it. NurseJackie May 2016 #32
It's a necessity firebrand80 May 2016 #29
If she can't, she shouldn't be president, a job that requires walking and chewing gum simultanrously Armstead May 2016 #31
I bet she tries if she's elected. frylock May 2016 #34
It's just a move to make Bernie appear irrelevent to the remaining states yet to vote. NorthCarolina May 2016 #36

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. i think it's a given that her strategy will be brilliant
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:11 AM
May 2016

she has the best political people working for her and she's highly disciplined herself, and fairly ruthless.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
8. I agree on all counts.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:22 AM
May 2016

And I also believe that folks in the primaries can only attack so much without actually attacking the principles they share in common. Despite what everyone says about Hillary being a Republican, the reality is that she and Trump have vastly different policies and styles and this is going to be a General Election for the ages. If anyone thinks Hillary's going to go down without a hard fight, they haven't been paying attention all these years.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
13. We have principles in common, could have fooled me Exactly what are those?
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:22 AM
May 2016
I am for doing everything possible for peace. Hillary supports illegal wars and regime change.

I am for a habitable climate. Hillary supports fracking and hasn't doesn't see climate change as a priority.

I am for a fair justice system. Hillary takes money from private prison CEOs.

I am for an equitable economic system. Hillary thinks $12 an hour is equitable wages and refuses to acknowledge that productivity gains have translated into less jobs and higher wages only for CEO's.

I am for an educated society. Communications has gotten cheaper which should mean education should be cheaper instead the reverse has happened. Unlike Bernie, Hillary refuses to take college debt seriously.

I believe Health care not health insurance should be a human right. Hillary doesn't thinks insurance companies have a right to make money off of people's illnesses and fear of getting sick.

I believe we are still a nation that thinks live are important helps people needing it. Hillary sends kids back to dangerous countries where they have been killed.


And where exactly does Trump stand on all these issues? You tell me. Does anybody know?
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
25. Trump is an awful man and a bigot
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:40 AM
May 2016

It's going to be a real issue oriented campaign I can see it now

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
12. Hillary Clinton’s New Anti-Trump Attack Ad Is a Colossal Failure
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:16 AM
May 2016

The ad features a lineup of prominent Republican leaders blasting Donald Trump for one thing or another. The biggest problem is that these are precisely the people Trump just steamrolled. Attacking Donald Trump is admittedly not easy. But surely Clinton’s team can do better than to stitch together clips of failed candidates reciting failed talking points.

One wonders who in the world the ad is trying to appeal to. Does it appeal to Republican voters that already rejected these losers for Trump? Will this ad appeal to liberal voters who rightfully loathe these racists, bigots, and .001% blowhards?

http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-anti-trump-attack-ad-fail/

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
19. You were already supporting her. But, who is her ad supposed to be convincing to support her?
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:35 AM
May 2016

Honestly, the ad is a pretty good ad FOR Trump.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
21. I disagree.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:26 AM
May 2016

I think both the new ads sum up exactly who he is, how he's wrong, and how even the right wing can't stand him. I think they're great. I've worked in marketing and at ad agencies for years. This was well done. It's designed to scare people about how crazy trump is. It certainly nails that.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
35. I see it as showing him as not being a team player ...
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

... and also going for disaffected Republicans. I just can't wait till folks realize that the Berd is out of the game and we can get to focussing on the real threat, which clearly Hillary is already doing.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
9. The other great thing it does is get Sanders out of the news. On the evening MSNBC shows tonight,
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:22 AM
May 2016

I only heard his name twice...and not a single mention on the local news (the day after he won a primary!).

He is going to have to fight to stay relevant, and the more he fights, the more he looks desperate. Also, the more annoying he becomes, the less likely that he will have any leverage with the Democratic Party at the convention...if that is what he is holding out for. It will be fun to watch the establishment (and all those super delegates) get more and more p**sed at him the longer he stays in the race.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
30. America is an Oligarchy. Wealth ahd power are far too concentrated.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:46 AM
May 2016

That is a very destructive trend.

Sorry if that seems boring, but it's something we shouldn't keep ignoring and enabling.

global1

(25,241 posts)
24. It Allows Her To Duck The Real Issues That We Need To Address & ....
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:36 AM
May 2016

that Bernie addresses and lets her off the hook on them.

She can't attack Trump on issues because no one knows where he stands on most.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. That's right bring people back to the reality
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:44 AM
May 2016

that the Oligarchs are going to continue to dominate our government.

"it brings people back to reality instead of dreams of unicorns." Sad day when dreaming of helping the 2.5 million homeless American children is called wanting a unicorn. Goldman-Sachs won't help them but some apparently don't care. Happy with the "reality" of the status quo.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. If she can't, she shouldn't be president, a job that requires walking and chewing gum simultanrously
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:48 AM
May 2016
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
36. It's just a move to make Bernie appear irrelevent to the remaining states yet to vote.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

Her "pivot" means nothing beyond that. Try to BECOME inevitable by selling the appearance of inevitability.

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