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why do we hate? (Original Post) reddread May 2016 OP
It's an emotion reserved for those or things, negative to our well being as humans. ViseGrip May 2016 #1
thank you reddread May 2016 #3
When I was younger I hated and it made me ill hollysmom May 2016 #28
Thank you. Funtatlaguy May 2016 #2
The opposite of both love and hate is indifference. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #4
I agree reddread May 2016 #5
maybe the question is, why should we hate Venezuala, Iran, or Syria, or Russia, or anyone? reddread May 2016 #6
I think it's engineered distraction Voice for Peace May 2016 #9
Arrogance and the fact that some people have been taught that they're better than others notadmblnd May 2016 #26
do you think teaching "better than" equals hate? reddread May 2016 #27
I think that often it does. notadmblnd May 2016 #29
First you've got to define "hate" versus "reject' EndElectoral May 2016 #7
For some the two are very much welded together. Blue_Adept May 2016 #13
I dont. JaneyVee May 2016 #8
Of course not. bvf May 2016 #14
LOL. Ok. JaneyVee May 2016 #15
Yep. Don't quite see how that qualifies bvf May 2016 #23
Hey buddy, its in quotes.... JaneyVee May 2016 #24
OK, so you're not looking bvf May 2016 #33
The level of hate among some is really shocking Blue_Adept May 2016 #10
no kidding! Jerry Brown and his non lethal projectiles, Joe Biden and Anita Hill reddread May 2016 #31
I would guess that either harm or envy might play into it Fresh_Start May 2016 #11
Strongly disagreeing with does not equal laruemtt May 2016 #12
I try very hard not to hate anyone. Maedhros May 2016 #16
Hate is Mike__M May 2016 #17
Do you meant hate or anger? DookDook May 2016 #18
....... Amaril May 2016 #22
I try not to hate people. I do hate ideas. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #19
I don't hate Bernie at all, and do not know of any Hillary supporters here who have expressed that Tarc May 2016 #20
Why? It goes with the world's oldest profession: Festivito May 2016 #21
I don't really hate anything or anyone bigwillq May 2016 #25
Similar to Love, passionate responses be it love or hate ensures humanitys survival... AuntPatsy May 2016 #30
I don't hate Sanders, but the level of Hillary hate on a Democratic site has been contemptible. Beacool May 2016 #32

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
28. When I was younger I hated and it made me ill
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

the fact that the person I hated was deliberately making m,y life a living hell at work is not good enough justification for my stomache issues. So I turned hatred to pity for their miserable lives, But yesterday I gave up and just plain hated my doctors receptionist/nurse. She is making my health a living hell, How many times has she not sent the referral - that I finally called to make sure they would send the referral, then call the next day to make sure they sent the referral, got an affirmative from her for both. But no, so for the third time in this one persistent illness (mostly because no progress can be made this way). so once again a doctor cancelled my appointment and I had to reschedule for 2 weeks away. This has been dragging on for 3 months now. I asked to change my primary and the insurance company is giving me a hard time, but I told them my dying because of a bad doctor will have my family suing. I tried calling the primary's office while at the specialist but the nurse and the receptionist were on their 2 hour lunch break. Who gets a 2 hour lunch break anymore with no one to cover the office?

ok sorry for ranting, I Have been doing this for 2 days now, but yes, hate is back in my life.

Funtatlaguy

(10,889 posts)
2. Thank you.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

I'm pretty much over it.
Seems most here just want to argue for arguments sake.
I guarantee you that Hillary and Bernie do not feel this way about each other.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. The opposite of both love and hate is indifference.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:25 PM
May 2016

I don't hate Hillary, I just don't think she's fit to be president.

Just like I don't hate a doctor who screwed up or charges too much. I just get another doctor.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
6. maybe the question is, why should we hate Venezuala, Iran, or Syria, or Russia, or anyone?
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

I suppose the reasons are substantial and irrefutable.
I just cant quite follow the logic?
help?

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
9. I think it's engineered distraction
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:47 PM
May 2016

Keep blaming in all directions so we don't have to look at ourselves.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
26. Arrogance and the fact that some people have been taught that they're better than others
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

Which they think gives them carte blanche to co-opt what ever they feel they might like.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
27. do you think teaching "better than" equals hate?
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

They sure seem to accept the idea with absolute indifference to the lives of others.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
29. I think that often it does.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

Just look at Trump and the things he has said that has generated more hate towards Muslims and Islam.

People are taught to hate. They're not born with it.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. Of course not.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016

Just tack the word "metaphorically" onto a phrase that reads like utter bloodlust, and it's all, um, good.

Like so:

"Hillary has faced madmen and scum since day one! Any other candidate would be justified to unleash the forces of hell on these madmen. Their camps should be airholed, with logic. You should be able to sail a boat through the blood spilled by those who stood against her, metaphorically"-Satire

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
23. Yep. Don't quite see how that qualifies
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

as "satire," as much as it does an excuse to go nuts with words that paint quite a picture.

Or are you looking to be a modern-day Swift? Correctly done, satire needs no explicit label saying, "Hey, look! Satire here!"

That's just plain lame.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
24. Hey buddy, its in quotes....
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

Meaning its from an article, an article that is satire. An article that is satire that I didnt write. Its from Cafe. LOL.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
33. OK, so you're not looking
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016

to be a modern-day Swift. Cafe is. You simply saw fit to lift the passage without attribution. That makes it lamer yet.

Everything else still holds.

BTW, if you're running low on apostrophes, I'd be willing to trade you some in exchange for any superfluous ellipses you might have sitting around.

Let me know.


"LOL!"

- bvf

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
10. The level of hate among some is really shocking
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
May 2016

I thought it was largely on the conservative side. But there's such a level of hate out of so many Bernie folks towards various elected officials on "our side" that it really is damning.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
31. no kidding! Jerry Brown and his non lethal projectiles, Joe Biden and Anita Hill
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

Hillary Clinton and the IWR.

damned liberals.
they need to heel,
dont they?

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
11. I would guess that either harm or envy might play into it
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

We may hate those that harm us or harm others we care for
Hating someone who is cruel to animals or harmed our sibling.
We may hate those who seem to have benefit possibly at a cost to us
Hating the 1% or billionaires

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
16. I try very hard not to hate anyone.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:00 PM
May 2016

Hate is easy. Hate feels good. Hate requires no justification, no sacrifice, no commitment.

Hate clouds the mind and subverts reason. Hate does more harm to me than to the object of my hatred. I see no point to it.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
17. Hate is
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016
Hate is nothing else but sorrow accompanied by the idea of an external cause.

Spinoza: Ethics, Part 3, Proposition XIII, excerpt from the Note

But also:

[div class="excerpt"Proposition XXIV. If we conceive that anyone pleasurably affects an object of our hate, we shall feel hatred towards him also. If we conceive that he painfully affects that said object, we shall feel love towards him.

DookDook

(166 posts)
18. Do you meant hate or anger?
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rageaholic

I heard a 'doctor' talk about this once, either on TV or the Radio. They were saying how some people just enjoy being angry, and after a while it just becomes standard operating procedure. I think that some people are just used to being angry all the time. I blame Fox News for a lot of this, always keeping people worked up with fear (War on Christmas! Terror Attack! Breaking News! etc) but also our busy lifestyles and reality TV also play a part. We do need to find something to talk about so why not talk about the things that make us angry! It's a topic that most people are up for and it's something that they have an opinion on and they can't be told that they're wrong.

Hate is a different kettle of fish all together. I don't think that people really can hate other people, they can hate icons however, and that's what we do when we belittle or demean people enough that we stop seeing them as people and start thinking of them as ideas. It's one of the reasons why I try so hard to not to call Republicans 'Rethuglicans' or Secretary Clinton 'Camp Weather-vane' or George Bush "Chimp the lesser." One of my favorite Margaret Atwood stories, "Rape Fantasies," is about how (spoiler alert) we really can't hate people if we see them as people.

So to answer your question from your OP:

So is one candidate deserving of all the hate that is heaped upon them?

I don't think so. I have shit family members, these are people who have gone out of their way to hurt me. I may not love them, but I also don't hate them. I just feel sad for them that they have such a twisted view of the world. I feel the same way about the politicians that I don't support. I don't hate Secretary Clinton, I just don't agree with her and the direction that she wants to take the country. I don't hate Trump, I really don't know what he has planned for the country, I'm a firm believer that he'll turn out to be the more progressive candidate if he's matched up against Clinton, he's already moving left on some issues and I could see him 'evolving' as the general election heats up.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
22. .......
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:40 PM
May 2016
"Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die." ~ Buddha

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
20. I don't hate Bernie at all, and do not know of any Hillary supporters here who have expressed that
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

This is a silly first question to start you DU return on.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
21. Why? It goes with the world's oldest profession:
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

Greed. (This is older than the greed for sex or the greed for money.)

All we really need is love for everything. But, we tire of the work of being so dignified. We greedily simplify. We divide things individually, then into groups and ultimately into two groups:
Good things and bad things. Hyperbolized to Godly and Evil. We want to judge what is godliness and evil for our selves, rather than to live in the mind boggling totality where all things matter, no, just ourselves for ourselves (this is our greed).

Like two bookends, in a garden sits a proverbial tree of life separated by ever increasing compartmentalization leading finally to a tree of the knowledge of good and evil -- judgement. A judgement that is not our duty.

For as much as love is giving ones time talent and treasure for something, hate opposes some things for the greedy sake of rest giving ones time talent and treasure AGAINST something that will take coveted time, coveted talent and coveted treasure.

Some are more lost in their hatred than others. They prefer to live in judgement of others empowering themselves as the judge. They like it there.

All it takes is to enjoy that fruit of judgement... and all is lost. Getting back to loving all things takes a virtual rebirth.

Good luck.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
25. I don't really hate anything or anyone
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:11 PM
May 2016

I just dislike and disagree with some views, tastes, opinions, actions, behaviors.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
32. I don't hate Sanders, but the level of Hillary hate on a Democratic site has been contemptible.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

Worthy of Free Republic or any other RW site. If anything, now that Sanders' chance of winning the nomination is almost zero, people have become even more vicious.


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