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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:51 PM May 2016

US Government Officials tell CNN: NO evidence against HRC so far as top aides interviewed.

Last edited Thu May 5, 2016, 05:53 PM - Edit history (4)

Great news!

CNN)Some of Hillary Clinton's closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/fbi-interviews-huma-abedin-clinton-aide/index.html

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US Government Officials tell CNN: NO evidence against HRC so far as top aides interviewed. (Original Post) NewsCenter28 May 2016 OP
Hopefully this will be wrapped up soon so she can just concentrate on the election. MoonRiver May 2016 #1
The FBI already confirmed they were delaying... scscholar May 2016 #35
UGH! MoonRiver May 2016 #65
Link? Thanks! nt IdaBriggs May 2016 #2
Sorry! http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/fbi-interviews-huma-abedin-clinton-aide/index.html NewsCenter28 May 2016 #3
Found it, but it's not all roses... IdaBriggs May 2016 #12
Why? You seem to be trying very hard to make something out of a whole bunch of nothing. synergie May 2016 #18
Actually it was a good post. NWCorona May 2016 #20
Beg pardon? OilemFirchen May 2016 #58
Yes because holes or other issues come up through other NWCorona May 2016 #63
C'mon. You made a ridiculous assertion. Own up to it. OilemFirchen May 2016 #64
Yes it's common but you are making it seem that NWCorona May 2016 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author nolawarlock May 2016 #59
Doesn't Sound Good pmorlan1 May 2016 #50
"Willfully" is irrelevant. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #4
It would be most relevant if it were you or I. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for us. arcane1 May 2016 #11
If laws were passed yesteday about something that you did 4 years ago, you'd be synergie May 2016 #19
The framers of the Constitution in their infinite wisdom prohibited ex post facto laws. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #22
That's my point: whether Hillary 'willfully' put the data at risk, or did so inadvertently, Maedhros May 2016 #30
Just like it's not a war crime to bomb a hospital if it's a "mistake" arcane1 May 2016 #32
Well, yeah. Duh. Maedhros May 2016 #38
"willfully" is the key to determining whether a criminal act took place DrDan May 2016 #13
No soup for you. Read the statute DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #14
Negligence is relevant. (n/t) Petrushka May 2016 #45
No, it is of supreme importance in interpreting the law The Second Stone May 2016 #62
What a load of bunk. The FBI aren't commenting so who are these "officials"? snagglepuss May 2016 #5
Some of Hillary Clinton's closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin /nt Dragonfli May 2016 #24
Good! I believed it was a mistake but never criminal. hrmjustin May 2016 #6
"so far" jillan May 2016 #7
This will probably be the end result, though disappointing to those who wanted so badly to carry Thinkingabout May 2016 #8
Doesn't that suggest she did though? Just with Incompetence.... NT Joob May 2016 #9
this is gonna break the hearts of some here DrDan May 2016 #10
Sadly, that is true Stuckinthebush May 2016 #16
No evidence yet? ContinentalOp May 2016 #15
There's one problem NWCorona May 2016 #17
More and more proof it's a nothingburger mcar May 2016 #21
it would probably be better for all concerned mooseprime May 2016 #23
14 recs with no link? What's up? Link please.. nt silvershadow May 2016 #25
There's a link it's just a little down thread. nt NWCorona May 2016 #29
You mean that copy and paste? nt silvershadow May 2016 #31
I didn't look to see if they are the same actually. nt NWCorona May 2016 #36
yeah, there is no link. The copy/paste takes me to an unrelated Google page. nt silvershadow May 2016 #37
I am so sorry-here is the link. NewsCenter28 May 2016 #40
Oh *that? That just says status quo, she still hasn't been cleared. ok. nt silvershadow May 2016 #43
I wonder which group this will anger more. Progressive dog May 2016 #26
One thing to say, let's wait + see, but some on this thread are upset that HRC may be in clear. Justice May 2016 #27
Pretty bad news for Clinton. basselope May 2016 #28
Not necessarily. Adrahil May 2016 #67
It still showcases the sloppiness. basselope May 2016 #69
Of the person who sent it? Sure. Adrahil May 2016 #70
Did Hillary lie when just this week she was asked if any of her aides have been NWCorona May 2016 #33
You're not going to give up on this are you? BootinUp May 2016 #41
Find one post by me where I advocate for Hillary to be locked up. I'll wait NWCorona May 2016 #44
I don't need to see you put it in exactly those words when BootinUp May 2016 #46
So in other words.. You don't have shit to backup your shit talking. nt NWCorona May 2016 #51
Read it any way you desire. nt BootinUp May 2016 #53
WHen Hillary isnt indicted, I bet nary a single email story promoter around here will apologize Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #34
Oh no, they will keep on harping on her getting arrested and thrown in the hole, regardless. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #49
Why would they? Decline to Prosecute doesn't imply innocence. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #56
The GOP propaganda network is doing fine on DU. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #57
Of course not.... they will claim she was protected by her fellow oligarchs. Adrahil May 2016 #68
The headline is misleading. CanadaexPat May 2016 #39
Sorry you are right NewsCenter28 May 2016 #42
The way they do the attributions is confusing. CanadaexPat May 2016 #48
Who are they though? Ash_F May 2016 #52
Isn't that great news Sanders people? No evidence of wrong doing whatsoever. Aren't we all relieved. seabeyond May 2016 #47
:) Lucinda May 2016 #60
What an odd article. The same week the DOJ claims response to a FOIA request Press Virginia May 2016 #54
"US Government Officials" frylock May 2016 #55
Unless they are with the DOJ, they wouldn't know. But doesn't it sound impressive? FourScore May 2016 #72
I'm guessing State Department flunkies playing CYA. frylock May 2016 #73
And their wont be any. It was always just wishful thinking by some... Lucinda May 2016 #61
Trey Gowdy and a few folks here! ;) NT Adrahil May 2016 #71
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
35. The FBI already confirmed they were delaying...
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

until after the election in order to cause even more problems. They are so political. So political.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
12. Found it, but it's not all roses...
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/fbi-interviews-huma-abedin-clinton-aide/index.html

(CNN) Some of Hillary Clinton's closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

In recent weeks, multiple aides have been interviewed -- some more than once, the officials said. A date for an FBI interview of Clinton has not been set, these officials said, but is expected in the coming weeks. Abedin has cooperated with the probe, the officials said. Lawyers for Abedin declined to comment. The officials say the interviews of Clinton and her aides would be a routine part of an investigation like this.

The probe remains focused on the security of the server and the handling of classified information and hasn't expanded to other matters, the officials said. Spokesmen for the FBI and Justice Department declined to comment. The Clinton campaign has not yet responded to CNN's request for comment. David Kendall, an attorney for Clinton, had no comment. (more at link)


So, no FBI or DOJ leaks, and no one else can be briefed at this stage. Also, multiple FBI interviews.

I would NOT want to be Hillary Clinton at the moment.
 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
18. Why? You seem to be trying very hard to make something out of a whole bunch of nothing.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

Even your best efforts a bolding, doesn't seem to back up anything though.

Multiple FBI interviews is nothing for anyone to be worried about, since they keep telling you that there is no criminal violations here, or even security ones.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
20. Actually it was a good post.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016

And if you think being called back multiple time is nothing then you might be in for a surprise. There's only a few reasons to do that and none of them are good.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
58. Beg pardon?
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

Multiple interviews are quite common - usually to corroborate testimony adduced later or to clarify statements on the record.

There's only a few reasons to do that and none of them are good.

Fascinating!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
63. Yes because holes or other issues come up through other
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:52 PM
May 2016

Interviews. It's not like the FBI is going in blind.

Also just because they are common doesn't mean they are good.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
64. C'mon. You made a ridiculous assertion. Own up to it.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

It's very common to recall an interviewee to corroborate or clarify testimony. This isn't Perry Mason, where a new witness drops a bombshell implicating someone. It's likely nothing more than filling in gaps.

To jump to the conclusion that routine recalls represent something "bad" is nothing more than an attempt to satisfy your desire for a negative outcome. To state, as you did, that it's always bad is cringeworthy.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
66. Yes it's common but you are making it seem that
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

Being repeatedly brought into the FBI is a good thing. The fact is any good lawyer will tell their client to not even think about sitting down to give an interview.

So can you tell me how being asked to give an interview with the FBI is a good thing?

That's not to say I'm not putting an emphasis on the negative. I admit my biases freely but it's not like I'm making up lies. I also don't want Hillary to go to jail or praising her down fall. I just seen how wrong this was from jump.

Response to synergie (Reply #18)

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
50. Doesn't Sound Good
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

with people getting multiple interviews. I do hope they are correct that the investigation is wrapping up and that we might finally hear from the FBI sooner rather than later.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
19. If laws were passed yesteday about something that you did 4 years ago, you'd be
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

pretty upset about being accused of violating a non-existent law after the fact. But it's okay, we don't expect that you'd hold Hillary to the standards you'd hold for yourself or any other human being in existence.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. The framers of the Constitution in their infinite wisdom prohibited ex post facto laws.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

Committed revolutionaries, especially keyboard ones, dismiss such things as more bourgeois claptrap.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
30. That's my point: whether Hillary 'willfully' put the data at risk, or did so inadvertently,
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

the law has been broken.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
32. Just like it's not a war crime to bomb a hospital if it's a "mistake"
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

Different rules for them.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
38. Well, yeah. Duh.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

Greewald did a whole piece on this:

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/12/hillary-clinton-sanctity-protecting-classified-information/

When it comes to low-level government employees with no power, the Obama administration has purposely prosecuted them as harshly as possible to the point of vindictiveness: It has notoriously prosecuted more individuals under the Espionage Act of 1917 for improperly handling classified information than all previous administrations combined.

NSA whistleblower Tom Drake, for instance, faced years in prison, and ultimately had his career destroyed, based on the Obama DOJ’s claims that he “mishandled” classified information (it included information that was not formally classified at the time but was retroactively decreed to be such). Less than two weeks ago, “a Naval reservist was convicted and sentenced for mishandling classified military materials” despite no “evidence he intended to distribute them.” Last year, a Naval officer was convicted of mishandling classified information also in the absence of any intent to distribute it.

In the light of these new Clinton revelations, the very same people who spent years justifying this obsessive assault are now scampering for reasons why a huge exception should be made for the Democratic Party front-runner. Fascinatingly, one of the most vocal defenders of this Obama DOJ record of persecution has been Hillary Clinton herself.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. No soup for you. Read the statute
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

§1924. Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
(Added Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, §808(a), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3453; amended Pub. L. 107–273, div. B, title IV, §4002(d)(1)(C)(i), Nov. 2, 2002, 116 Stat. 1809.)
Amendments
2002—Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 107–273 substituted “under this title” for “not more than $1,000,”.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
62. No, it is of supreme importance in interpreting the law
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:48 PM
May 2016

and whether charges can be brought. Intent matters.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. This will probably be the end result, though disappointing to those who wanted so badly to carry
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

This scandal far, it will not happen. Bernie Sanders probably said it best, "I am sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails".

Stuckinthebush

(10,844 posts)
16. Sadly, that is true
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

It amazes me how many here at DU seem to get excited about the possibility of Clinton willfully violating the law - against all evidence.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
15. No evidence yet?
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

Don't worry, just keep on digging. Whatever it takes. Need a blank check? No problem! If you need an extra hand we can see if our man Ken Starr is available.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
17. There's one problem
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

The source isn't coming from the FBI and to think that they would give that info out before the investigation is over is foolish. It seems to me that this is coming from the campaign.

I think it's odd that they keep on mentioning these officials but fail to name any. Regardless if true. This will be a big relief for team Clinton.

And then there's this.

"Spokesmen for the FBI and Justice Department declined to comment"

The timing of this is suspect considering the Guccifer story.

mooseprime

(474 posts)
23. it would probably be better for all concerned
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:23 PM
May 2016

if we all just forgot clinton's every mistake and lapse of judgment...especially because there are already too many to remember. so far my favorites have been:

--voting for use of cluster bombs in civilian areas (waaaaay abuela of her)
--IWR "birth defects from depleted uranium and burn pits until the end of time!"
--1:1 relationship between foundation donations and unprecedented arms sales to the ME
--selling fracking all over the world - poisoned ground water galore!
--evolving so quickly on issues she has a new position every other day (where are we on coal today?)
--the "gold standard" of trade agreements!

i used to have a job where we handled classified materials. getting everything back in the safe was no joking matter. i can only imagine what my boss's reaction would have been to my asking whether it would be OK to keep that stuff on a server at home.


getting away with murder is not the same thing as not being guilty of it

the way we know clinton has become a full-on republican is that nothing, absolutely nothing, can possibly disqualify her from whatever she wants to do

sickening. supporting this kind of stuff is not only un-Democratic, it's unpatriotic. shame.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
40. I am so sorry-here is the link.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

I am so very sorry, Silvershadow. The last thing that I wanted to do was confuse a fellow DUer comrade in arms. It was a breaking story so no article appeared originally. I tried to update with a link but again I am so sorry that it didn't work for you. I didn't mean to upset you. My sincerest apologies again for the confusion and it will never ever happen again. Again, I am so sorry

P.S: Also updated OP.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/fbi-interviews-huma-abedin-clinton-aide/index.html

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
28. Pretty bad news for Clinton.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:26 PM
May 2016

The fact that they have to focus on the word "Willfully", means they are finding violations and now just seeing if this is another one of her classic "Oopsies"

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
67. Not necessarily.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

If unmarked classified data was sent to her, she might be in possession of classified data without her knowledge. Happens more than you might think.



 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
70. Of the person who sent it? Sure.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

Of the person receiving it? That's silly. No one is obligated to review the classification guides for every incoming email. That would be ridiculous.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
33. Did Hillary lie when just this week she was asked if any of her aides have been
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

interviewed or contacted by the FBI and she said no?

Maybe they all happened this week but the reports say that some of her aides have been interviewed multiple times.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
41. You're not going to give up on this are you?
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

It will be her second term and you'll still be saying lock her up, lol.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
44. Find one post by me where I advocate for Hillary to be locked up. I'll wait
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

I the mean time care to answer my original question as it appears that she did lie.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
46. I don't need to see you put it in exactly those words when
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

you express a desire to see her found guilty of a federal crime. As far as whether she lied recently about this investigation, it doesn't seem likely to me, no. But I am sure you will keep us updated.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
56. Why would they? Decline to Prosecute doesn't imply innocence.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:37 PM
May 2016

The default legal status is "not guilty" not "innocent".

At least that is what I learned in my civics class.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
68. Of course not.... they will claim she was protected by her fellow oligarchs.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

Make no mistake, they've decided already. Now it's just about shaping the narrative to fit their predetermined conclusions. Expect no apologies.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
42. Sorry you are right
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

Again, I apologize and updated. My apologies for confusing you! I just assumed that senior U.S officials must be D.O.J or FBI.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
52. Who are they though?
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

If not DoJ or FBI how would they have access to that info? Is this an anonymous leak?

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
54. What an odd article. The same week the DOJ claims response to a FOIA request
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

would prematurely reveal evidence gathered in a LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION, we get a story from CNN that's its just a security review and there's no evidence of law breaking.....

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
72. Unless they are with the DOJ, they wouldn't know. But doesn't it sound impressive?
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:02 PM
May 2016

CNN just did a live breaking news story on this!! Impressive!

Except it doesn't mean diddly-squat.

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