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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:54 PM May 2016

State Dept. to Withhold Docs Related to Clinton E-Mail Security Until After Election

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/state-dept-to-withhold-docs-related-to-clinton-e-mail-security-until-after-election/
The State Department on Tuesday notified Vice News that it will not release documents responsive to the news outlet’s FOIA requests related to the security of Hillary Clinton’s e-mail server until after the November election.

According to Vice News reporter Jason Koebler, soon after news broke of Clinton’s use of a private e-mail for State Department business, he filed a FOIA request with the State Department seeking “communications, presentations, and procedures created by the State Department to secure Hillary Clinton’s email from electronic threats.”

In his new report released on Thursday, Koebler describes how despite several promises from the State Department over the course of the past year to expedite the process, he is still waiting for responses about what procedures the State Department created to help keep Clinton’s e-mails and private server secure. Then, on Tuesday, Koebler received an e-mail update from the State Department regarding to “outgoing processing of his request” that informed him the estimated competition date had been stretched out again, until at least December 2016 — one month after the election.
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State Dept. to Withhold Docs Related to Clinton E-Mail Security Until After Election (Original Post) antigop May 2016 OP
So, Clinton got her way. The basement server avoided FOIA requests and disclosures. Boooooo. CentralCoaster May 2016 #1
this is so bogus mooseprime May 2016 #2
FOIA requests are never fast scscholar May 2016 #3
doesn't "one month after the election" mooseprime May 2016 #4
In all honesty, it REEKS to high heaven just like everything else associated w/Clinton, Inc. reeks. nc4bo May 2016 #5
Yup farleftlib May 2016 #7
Clinton ran the business of this country on personally owned equipment in the basement of her home. CentralCoaster May 2016 #14
But those Republicans... scscholar May 2016 #15
Not w servers in basement, they didn't CentralCoaster May 2016 #19
There is no functional difference scscholar May 2016 #20
Wrong. ljm2002 May 2016 #25
Basement? scscholar May 2016 #26
Sorry, you are still wrong. ljm2002 May 2016 #31
WaPo is biased, so... scscholar May 2016 #32
Ha fucking ha... ljm2002 May 2016 #33
This is bullshit. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #18
agree grasswire May 2016 #27
She will get a full pardon from Obama on his way out the door. nt NorthCarolina May 2016 #6
I feel nauseous..... alittlelark May 2016 #8
Is this the stuff that shows quid pro quo for Clinton Foundation? NightWatcher May 2016 #9
Well I guess Joe Biden is free to plan his summer vacation. oasis May 2016 #10
Curious. If the documents were favorable, you'd think they would want them out there ASAP. Vinca May 2016 #11
But if she had smoked pot... mindwalker_i May 2016 #12
It's definitely bad news for Hills then farleftlib May 2016 #13
There are no "findings." This is not the FBI investigation. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #17
How the FUCK is that even legal? Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #16
The Fix Is In.... global1 May 2016 #21
yes, it's the FOIA request, not the FBI investigation. antigop May 2016 #23
from that link grasswire May 2016 #28
Looks like it. GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #30
That will play well. Maybe she can bundle them with her Wall Street love songs. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #22
Good. DCBob May 2016 #24
So shady... AzDar May 2016 #29
 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
1. So, Clinton got her way. The basement server avoided FOIA requests and disclosures. Boooooo.
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

Isn't America Wonderful?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. In all honesty, it REEKS to high heaven just like everything else associated w/Clinton, Inc. reeks.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016
 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
7. Yup
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

Trump will still make hay out of this. And if she wins we have immediate impeachment hearings to deal with.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
14. Clinton ran the business of this country on personally owned equipment in the basement of her home.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

That was pretty special treatment that she indulged in, without permission.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
25. Wrong.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016

She used her own personal server for ALL of her State Department business, not to mention her Clinton Foundation business. She turned over 30,000 emails -- on paper, no less -- but deleted another 30,000 that she claims were personal in nature. Unfortunately for her, some of those deleted emails turned up later, such as some of those to and from Sidney Blumenthal, and guess what? They were not personal in nature. Oops.

Powell and Rice used personal email accounts a few times, maybe several times each -- but not, by a long shot, for all of their State Department business. Furthermore, since they used commercial accounts for those, their email benefitted from real security; while Clinton's private email server did not. In my opinion, what they did was still wrong, but pales in comparison to having a private server set up in your own basement to conduct the foreign policy business of the United States.

Please stop trying to muddy the waters. You can still believe she did nothing wrong, but if you must resort to misrepresenting what happened, that does not strengthen your case.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
26. Basement?
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

If you're going to spout the Republican fantasy, you should at least get their claim right that she put it in a bathroom.

It's sad that some people believe that.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
31. Sorry, you are still wrong.
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

First: the server started out at her Chappaqua, NY address. The so-called "bathroom closet" was later, when the server was handed over to a mom-and-pop networking outfit for them to manage it, somewhere in Colorado. That outfit operated out of a loft, and yes, the server was kept in what a former employee described as an "old bathroom closet".

Analysis of IP addresses on the emails also reveal that the server spent some time in NYC, possibly at Bill Clinton's offices there, or possibly at the Clinton Foundation. It may even have spent some time in Arkansas. That server really got around!

One of the worst things that has come out, is that the server was run for 2-3 months, early on in her tenure at State, with NO encryption for email. That is an egregious lapse.

Now. Since you asked so nicely (not), here is the reference for her server being in the basement of her home, and for it not having the benefit of encryption for 2 months while she conducted official business on it. I must assume that the Washington Post is an acceptable source, yes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-clintons-email-scandal-took-root/2016/03/27/ee301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html

(...)

The unfolding story of Clinton’s basement server has outraged advocates of government transparency and mystified political supporters and adversaries alike. Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., who is presiding over one of the FOIA lawsuits, has expressed puzzlement over the affair. He noted that Clinton put the State Department in the position of having to ask her to return thousands of government records — her work email.

(...)

On Jan. 13, 2009, a longtime aide to Bill Clinton registered a private email domain for Hillary Clinton, clintonemail.com, that would allow her to send and receive email through the server.

(...)

Few could have known it, but the email system operated in those first two months without the standard encryption generally used on the Internet to protect communication, according to an independent analysis that Venafi Inc., a cybersecurity firm that specializes in the encryption process, took upon itself to publish on its website after the scandal broke.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
33. Ha fucking ha...
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

...hey, care to provide a list of sources you will accept? Because if the WaPo is off limits, well... all that does is show what a hermetically sealed information bubble you inhabit, which explains your stunning ignorance on the topic. And to top it all off, you spout your nonsense rudely, and with full confidence in how right you are.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

--Yeats, "The Second Coming"

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. Is this the stuff that shows quid pro quo for Clinton Foundation?
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

We all know that's why the private servers were used. If it's private, it's outside of FOIA request territory, and the proof of wrongdoing can be deleted.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
16. How the FUCK is that even legal?
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

Moreover, the GOP is going to make a HUGE deal about this. It will sully the Obama Administration's legacy.

global1

(25,242 posts)
21. The Fix Is In....
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

Looks like the State Dept is dragging their feet on this and on purpose. My understanding though is this is a FOIA request and not the FBI Investigation. Is it still possible that the FBI can either supoena (sp?) these documents or maybe already has access to them?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
28. from that link
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:43 PM
May 2016

"Materials that were retrieved from any server equipment and related devices obtained from former Secretary Clinton for the investigation, which would be responsive to [VICE News' FOIA request], are potential evidence in the FBI's investigation, or may provide leads to or context for potential evidence," Hardy wrote. "As this is an active and ongoing investigation, the FBI is continuing to assess the evidentiary value of any materials retrieved for the investigation from any such server equipment/related devices. Disclosure of evidence, potential evidence, or information that has not yet been assessed for evidentiary value while the investigation is active and ongoing could reasonably be expected to undermine the pending investigation by prematurely revealing its scope and focus."

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
24. Good.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:14 PM
May 2016

The gopers and media would pull stuff out of context and exaggerate and twist it into all sorts of attacks against her. Great news indeed!

Finally getting a break on this stupid fake scandal.

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