2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumState Dept. to Withhold Docs Related to Clinton E-Mail Security Until After Election
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/state-dept-to-withhold-docs-related-to-clinton-e-mail-security-until-after-election/According to Vice News reporter Jason Koebler, soon after news broke of Clintons use of a private e-mail for State Department business, he filed a FOIA request with the State Department seeking communications, presentations, and procedures created by the State Department to secure Hillary Clintons email from electronic threats.
In his new report released on Thursday, Koebler describes how despite several promises from the State Department over the course of the past year to expedite the process, he is still waiting for responses about what procedures the State Department created to help keep Clintons e-mails and private server secure. Then, on Tuesday, Koebler received an e-mail update from the State Department regarding to outgoing processing of his request that informed him the estimated competition date had been stretched out again, until at least December 2016 one month after the election.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Isn't America Wonderful?
mooseprime
(474 posts)i don't even have words for it. well except IOKIYAC
scscholar
(2,902 posts)There is no special treatment here.
mooseprime
(474 posts)seem the teeniest bit hinky to you?
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Trump will still make hay out of this. And if she wins we have immediate impeachment hearings to deal with.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)That was pretty special treatment that she indulged in, without permission.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)did it too!
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)They just used private email, huge difference
scscholar
(2,902 posts)They did the same damn thing.
She used her own personal server for ALL of her State Department business, not to mention her Clinton Foundation business. She turned over 30,000 emails -- on paper, no less -- but deleted another 30,000 that she claims were personal in nature. Unfortunately for her, some of those deleted emails turned up later, such as some of those to and from Sidney Blumenthal, and guess what? They were not personal in nature. Oops.
Powell and Rice used personal email accounts a few times, maybe several times each -- but not, by a long shot, for all of their State Department business. Furthermore, since they used commercial accounts for those, their email benefitted from real security; while Clinton's private email server did not. In my opinion, what they did was still wrong, but pales in comparison to having a private server set up in your own basement to conduct the foreign policy business of the United States.
Please stop trying to muddy the waters. You can still believe she did nothing wrong, but if you must resort to misrepresenting what happened, that does not strengthen your case.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)If you're going to spout the Republican fantasy, you should at least get their claim right that she put it in a bathroom.
It's sad that some people believe that.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)First: the server started out at her Chappaqua, NY address. The so-called "bathroom closet" was later, when the server was handed over to a mom-and-pop networking outfit for them to manage it, somewhere in Colorado. That outfit operated out of a loft, and yes, the server was kept in what a former employee described as an "old bathroom closet".
Analysis of IP addresses on the emails also reveal that the server spent some time in NYC, possibly at Bill Clinton's offices there, or possibly at the Clinton Foundation. It may even have spent some time in Arkansas. That server really got around!
One of the worst things that has come out, is that the server was run for 2-3 months, early on in her tenure at State, with NO encryption for email. That is an egregious lapse.
Now. Since you asked so nicely (not), here is the reference for her server being in the basement of her home, and for it not having the benefit of encryption for 2 months while she conducted official business on it. I must assume that the Washington Post is an acceptable source, yes?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-clintons-email-scandal-took-root/2016/03/27/ee301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html
The unfolding story of Clintons basement server has outraged advocates of government transparency and mystified political supporters and adversaries alike. Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., who is presiding over one of the FOIA lawsuits, has expressed puzzlement over the affair. He noted that Clinton put the State Department in the position of having to ask her to return thousands of government records her work email.
(...)
On Jan. 13, 2009, a longtime aide to Bill Clinton registered a private email domain for Hillary Clinton, clintonemail.com, that would allow her to send and receive email through the server.
(...)
Few could have known it, but the email system operated in those first two months without the standard encryption generally used on the Internet to protect communication, according to an independent analysis that Venafi Inc., a cybersecurity firm that specializes in the encryption process, took upon itself to publish on its website after the scandal broke.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)no.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...hey, care to provide a list of sources you will accept? Because if the WaPo is off limits, well... all that does is show what a hermetically sealed information bubble you inhabit, which explains your stunning ignorance on the topic. And to top it all off, you spout your nonsense rudely, and with full confidence in how right you are.
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Torches and pitchforks level bullshit...
grasswire
(50,130 posts)why is it the State Department's job to protect a former employee from due process, anyway?
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)alittlelark
(18,890 posts)AMERICA
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)We all know that's why the private servers were used. If it's private, it's outside of FOIA request territory, and the proof of wrongdoing can be deleted.
oasis
(49,379 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Probably would still be fine, since she's rich and stuff.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)if it cleared her they'd release their findings right now.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Moreover, the GOP is going to make a HUGE deal about this. It will sully the Obama Administration's legacy.
global1
(25,242 posts)Looks like the State Dept is dragging their feet on this and on purpose. My understanding though is this is a FOIA request and not the FBI Investigation. Is it still possible that the FBI can either supoena (sp?) these documents or maybe already has access to them?
antigop
(12,778 posts)However, you might want to read this:
https://news.vice.com/article/fbi-investigation-hillary-clinton-email-server-details
grasswire
(50,130 posts)"Materials that were retrieved from any server equipment and related devices obtained from former Secretary Clinton for the investigation, which would be responsive to [VICE News' FOIA request], are potential evidence in the FBI's investigation, or may provide leads to or context for potential evidence," Hardy wrote. "As this is an active and ongoing investigation, the FBI is continuing to assess the evidentiary value of any materials retrieved for the investigation from any such server equipment/related devices. Disclosure of evidence, potential evidence, or information that has not yet been assessed for evidentiary value while the investigation is active and ongoing could reasonably be expected to undermine the pending investigation by prematurely revealing its scope and focus."
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)The gopers and media would pull stuff out of context and exaggerate and twist it into all sorts of attacks against her. Great news indeed!
Finally getting a break on this stupid fake scandal.