Who to believe? Hillary on MSNBC Tuesday or CNN on Thursday?

[IdaBriggs]

TUESDAY, MAY 3, 2016

Clinton: ‘I’m really focused on moving into the general election’, MSNBC, May 3, 2016
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-im-really-focused-moving-the-general-election

Hillary Clinton is ready to put the Democratic primary in her rear view mirror and get to work on Donald Trump.

She made that abundantly clear in an exclusive interview with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Tuesday in West Virginia. Clinton also said that the FBI has still not contacted her regarding her private email server, and the Democratic front-runner detailed under what circumstances she would release transcripts of her paid speeches.
(snip)
And Clinton said neither she nor her staff have yet been contacted by the FBI, which is investigating the handling of classified information on the private email server she used a secretary of state. (more at link)

THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2016

First on CNN: FBI interviews Clinton aides including Huma Abedin as part of email probe, CNN, May 5, 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/fbi-interviews-huma-abedin-clinton-aide/index.html

(CNN) Some of Hillary Clinton's closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

In recent weeks, multiple aides have been interviewed -- some more than once, the officials said. A date for an FBI interview of Clinton has not been set, these officials said, but is expected in the coming weeks. Abedin has cooperated with the probe, the officials said. Lawyers for Abedin declined to comment. The officials say the interviews of Clinton and her aides would be a routine part of an investigation like this.

The probe remains focused on the security of the server and the handling of classified information and hasn't expanded to other matters, the officials said. Spokesmen for the FBI and Justice Department declined to comment. The Clinton campaign has not yet responded to CNN's request for comment. David Kendall, an attorney for Clinton, had no comment. (more at link)

Somebody is lying -- who?

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	Hillary. Either she's lying or been lied to by her staff.
	9 (69%)
	CNN. They've been played. FBI and DOJ weren't the source.
	0 (0%)
	All of them -- it's about ratings and power politics.
	3 (23%)
	Who cares?
	0 (0%)
	Other. (Please explain.)
	1 (8%)
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[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. More GOP propaganda about emails I see

[IdaBriggs]

13. CNN and MSNBC are now propaganda outlets?

To be fair, you might have something there!

[Jackie Wilson Said]

14. Cant tell anymore who are just duped folks and who works directly for the GOP

[IdaBriggs]

19. You kind of remind me of Hillary sometimes.

Remember how she just kept denying over and over that Bill was messing around on her? The women were lying attention seekers with mental problems, and there was a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy out to get them, and Bill would NEVER do such a thing because they were HAPPILY MARRIED....

She clung to her delusion publicly until they found his DNA on a blue dress. At some point, life would have been easier if she had just accepted the fact he was a cheating dog, and gotten therapy instead of dragging the rest of the country into her own particular crazy.

Now, you can believe that everyone from the FBI to the DOJ to the State Department to President Obama to two computer companies to some random Romanian hacker to pretty much every reputable news outlet in the country is conspiring to create an unbelievable web of fabricated evidence designed to discredit Hillary Clinton, or you might want to consider she just made some dumb ass decisions about her computer systems because she saw Karl Rove pull it off the year before, except she was Secretary of State and she messed it up.

Everyone in the world against her versus somebody was being stupid -- which is more probable?

No need to answer. Have a nice night.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

21. GOP propaganda.

[IdaBriggs]

22. Cling to that -- we're here for you when you can deal.

It's a betrayal. And it's not easy.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

23. LOL...oh my...I have more liberal and socialism in my big toe than

you can comprehend.

If you only knew how silly this all is, assuming you are who you say you are.

A misguided liberal, that is.

[arcane1]

2. Hillary is "often confused" according to her own staff.

A common side-effect of standing for nothing and saying anything.

[BernieforPres2016]

4. Huma is the one who said in an email that Hillary is often confused

Maybe Huma told Hillary that she had been interviewed by the FBI and Hillary forgot. Or more likely, Hillary knew and lied about it on Tuesday.

[KittyWampus]

15. So is Jane Sanders. First it's Turbo Tax, then it's her accountants. Weird how the media

never calls either Jane or Bernie out on their bullsh*t.

[grasswire]

3. gotta parse Clinton words.

Of course she has not been contacted by the FBI, literally. Her lawyer took the duty.

[Bob41213]

5. You know, it's funny I'm not the only one who read that into her comment

That's exactly what I thought myself.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. None of this will help your candidate.

BTW, if I earned the enmity of you and your associates it makes me happy because the feeling is mutual.

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. You know people Ida associates with? How cool is that?

Bummer though if they're harboring enmity toward you, and merely for supporting Hillary.

Me? I loves me some DSB, and hope the feeling is moochal!

[IdaBriggs]

16. My support for Bernie is a separate issue from Hillary's legal problems.

I have stated repeatedly that the FBI is going to be the final say on if there is an actual crime.

I don't like Hillary as a candidate for many reasons, and this happens to be one of them, but as I said, this has nothing to do with Bernie.

And I am a forgiving sort in general, but if you accuse me of being a Trump supporter, the fight is on!



Other than that, "primary passions" eventually turn into if people can avoid being assholes to each other.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. TLDR. Have a nice day.

[IdaBriggs]

20. Lol! It had big words, so I get it. Have fun!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. I have been insulted.

Lol! It had big words, so I get it. Have fun!

I have been insulted by better people than you. I would be hard pressed to say I have been insulted by worse people.




Have a nice day though.

[IdaBriggs]

25. "I'm rubber and you're glue! Whatever you say to me,

bounces off me and sticks to you!"

I've got 9-year old twins - I can play childish games for hours!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Physician heal thyself.

You started all this unpleasantness. You picked the wrong Clinton supporter to verbally bully.

[IdaBriggs]

27. Is this where I type "TLDR"?

<== Me showing this is supposed to be funny

Actually, YOU started out by conflating Hillary's legal troubles with my supporting Bernie. When I put out a friendly hand, you did the (insulting) "TLDR" thing, and I (playfully) smacked you around a little for it with "big words". I am not trying to bully you, and if you felt attacked, please accept my apologies as that was not my intent,

Peace between us?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I will stipulate we should put our unpleasantness behind us.

That being said I don't find anything about this forum remotely humorous. If there is anything I associate with this forum it's rage. As Friedrich Nietzsche admonished, "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster..."

[IdaBriggs]

30. There is a large amount of frustration and I don't think we are

at a point where we are listening to each other, which is a tough thing for a discussion board to be dealing with.

For example, you didn't actually discuss the content of the thread I posted. Hillary Clinton came out and said something definitive on Tuesday, and less than 48 hours later, her statement is being directly contradicted by a major news organization. Either someone is "playing them", or she is being kept in the dark (which is plausible, given the nature of the interviews), or she is not telling the truth. Those are three separate PLAUSIBLE scenarios, but the end result is that Hillary is taking a reputation hit. This topic is something I think is worthy of discussion, but in the current climate, it is immediately viewed as "partisan" instead of "participatory".

Does that make sense?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I suspect the FBI has warned the people who were interviewed not to discuss...

I suspect the FBI has warned the people who were interviewed not to discuss their testimony with other potential witnesses. I am not an attorney, of course, but I am confident that is what an attorney would say.

That's why in trials they have the law of sequestration:



The sequestration of witnesses differs from that of jurors. Whereas jurors are kept away from the public, witnesses typically are ordered not to attend the trial—or follow accounts of it—until they are to testify. This judicial order is intended to assure that the witnesses will testify concerning their own knowledge of the case without being influenced by testimony of prior witnesses. Witness sequestration also seeks to strengthen the role of cross-examination in developing facts.

[HereSince1628]

7. Believe them all but, do be sure to believe that each will cover their ass.

Personally, I think 'handling of classified information' leaves a lot of room to consider the legalities of how Blumenthal was on the payroll at Clinton Foundation and was actively collecting and funneling CIA leaks to HRC.

I don't think that handling of classified information thing hinges at all on such things as retroactive over-classification.

At this point, Blumenthal is looking rather McDougal-ish.

[Attorney in Texas]

9. I'm not sure which Hillary is fibbing. Can't they both be self-aggrandizing?

[IdaBriggs]

18. Well, the May 5 is NOT sourced to Hillary.

And the FBI/DOJ aren't commenting...

[pdsimdars]

11. Earlier she had said that she had not received a subpoena and then in one of the hearings

one of the congressmen reminded her that she had and read the beginning of it.

[Gothmog]

12. There will be no indictment of Hillary Clinton

[pmorlan1]

29. Reuters picked up on that too

The timeline in the CNN report appeared to contradict answers Clinton gave in an interview on Tuesday, in which she told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell that neither she nor her representatives had yet been contacted by the FBI.

Asked about this, Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon suggested the definition of words Mitchell used in her question were open to interpretation.

"What does representatives mean to you, sir?" he said in an email, but declined to elaborate.

Gee, doesn't this sound familiar? Parsing anyone?

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2016/05/05/us/politics/05reuters-clinton-emails-cnn.html