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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:54 PM May 2016

Hillary swings to the right? Are Hillary and Republican Neoconservatives Ready to Join Forces? Maybe



May 05, 2016
Trump as Unifier: Are Hillary Clinton and Neoconservatives Ready to Join Forces?
'Neocon elites are probably the likeliest faction to defect to Clinton, and what they'd want is blood-curdling aggressiveness overseas and Benjamin Netanyahu in charge of Middle East policy.'
by Jon Queally, staff writer


As Donald Trump is declared the presumptive Republican nominee for president, members of the neoconservative establishment, disgusted by the prospect of Trump in the White House, appear to be heading into the welcoming arms of someone more sympathetic to their imperial worldview: Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton.

Steve Schmidt, a prominent Republican strategist and former senior aide to Sen. John McCain, is just one of several political insiders to have made the case over the last couple days – and he has done so repeatedly while speaking as a contributor for MSNBC.

With Trump at the head of the GOP ticket, Schmidt predicted on Chris Matthews' show earlier this week, "You're going to see a concerted and organized effort by the Hillary Clinton campaign to go after senior members of the Republican foreign policy establishment — big names. I'm not trying to put a partisan imprint on David Petraeus. But names like Petraeus, retired General Odierno, Colin Powell, Brent Scowcroft. Men and women who served in senior positions, in national security positions, in Republican administrations. The Clinton campaign's going to go after them. They're going to go after them forcefully."

On Wednesday, the Clinton campaign at least hinted at this approach by posting a list of people it described as "prominent activists, journalists and elected officials" in the Republican Party who have decided to reject Trump, quoting some who explicitly said they would vote for Clinton if she ends up as the Democratic nominee.

According to journalist and political commentator Sam Sacks, who spoke with D.C.-based Sputnik Radio about the same dynamic on Thursday, observers can expect to "see a lot of the neoconservatives, people who were, ironically, very close in the George W. Bush administration... coming home and supporting Clinton, who has a foreign policy record that hews pretty neoconservative."

"I have faith that Clinton’s foreign policy would align with what I’m looking for, and she would have my vote."
—unnamed American Enterprise Institute staffer


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http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/05/trump-unifier-are-hillary-clinton-and-neoconservatives-ready-join-forces
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Hillary swings to the right? Are Hillary and Republican Neoconservatives Ready to Join Forces? Maybe (Original Post) imagine2015 May 2016 OP
I heard Sanders and Trump are going to team up, guess Sanders is going right. Thinkingabout May 2016 #1
Not likely. highprincipleswork May 2016 #2
No, Sanders and Trump attract the same voters. Thinkingabout May 2016 #3
I'm sorry. You are completely delusional. Have you ever listened at all to what Bernie has to say? highprincipleswork May 2016 #8
No, I am not delusional, I said they attract the same voters, independents. Thinkingabout May 2016 #17
Independents is only one kind of person Bernie attracts. Anyone who cares anything about FDR style highprincipleswork May 2016 #19
There is lots of differences in Sanders and FDR, Sanders has to be his oown person who Thinkingabout May 2016 #20
Well, you're obviously not a fan but we are, and many supporters and commentators see the connection highprincipleswork May 2016 #23
I happen to be a fan of FDR, Sanders will never be FDR. Thinkingabout May 2016 #24
Now you're a fortuneteller. I tire of this discussion. highprincipleswork May 2016 #25
That is a complete fabrication. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #14
You didn't hear that at all. Not from any credible source. Isn't that right? imagine2015 May 2016 #6
On DU, Thinkingabout May 2016 #9
Link to your made up shit. cali May 2016 #29
She's already joined up with PNAC's Kagan, ... HooptieWagon May 2016 #4
This is something I will not be voting for - djean111 May 2016 #5
Was there ever any doubt? n/t bvf May 2016 #7
Hoo boy, fox news is gonna lose a lot of viewers over this tularetom May 2016 #10
If only there were some photographic evidence to shed light on this important issue Attorney in Texas May 2016 #11
Hillary and Trump . . the dream team. . . . pdsimdars May 2016 #12
HRC.. sendero May 2016 #13
Obvious. nt silvershadow May 2016 #15
This was expected dr60omg May 2016 #16
K & R AzDar May 2016 #18
Just like with the IWR, everything progressives predicted is coming true. nt Joe the Revelator May 2016 #21
I'm sure H. Clinton is ready to do business with the Koch brothers. tabasco May 2016 #22
"Ready to join forces"? - They have already done so. Remember the Iraq War Resolution? Betty Karlson May 2016 #26
She swings any further to the right they'll be renaming the B Calm May 2016 #27
There basically is only the Corporate Party, with a D Wing and a R Wing. hobbit709 May 2016 #28
^ This. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #30
"But but but party loyalty you're just another puma" VulgarPoet May 2016 #31
 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
2. Not likely.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

But Hillary to the Right? That would be sure to inspire Democratic Progressive and Independent confidence.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
8. I'm sorry. You are completely delusional. Have you ever listened at all to what Bernie has to say?
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

The only place where they even slightly overlap is being against the trade policies that are sucking the life out of our economics, and which "Progressives" like Hillary should continue to denounce as well.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. No, I am not delusional, I said they attract the same voters, independents.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:23 PM
May 2016

I did not say anything about policies. Now who is delusional?

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
19. Independents is only one kind of person Bernie attracts. Anyone who cares anything about FDR style
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016

Democratic policies should be voting for Bernie, because these are not fully and authentically supported elsewhere in the Democratic Party as it exists today. He also attracts Republicans who aren't stark raving mad.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. There is lots of differences in Sanders and FDR, Sanders has to be his oown person who
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

Runs his campaign and sells himself. FDR was a strong and powerful president, lead this nation out of the depression and through a World War. Sanders has to establish his own record. No, it is not who cares about FDR style who should be voting for Sanders.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
23. Well, you're obviously not a fan but we are, and many supporters and commentators see the connection
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:38 AM
May 2016

between Bernie's politics and FDR. Not the rest of the party, who generally worship either a mild form of Ronald Reagan or the Chicago School of Economics.

If Hillary went FDR, I'd support her.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
6. You didn't hear that at all. Not from any credible source. Isn't that right?
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

I guess you just made that up.

Isn't that right?
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. She's already joined up with PNAC's Kagan, ...
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

...and is tight with Henry Kissinger. So it appears that the DLClinton and neocons have already formed an alliance.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. This is something I will not be voting for -
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016
'Neocon elites are probably the likeliest faction to defect to Clinton, and what they'd want is blood-curdling aggressiveness overseas and Benjamin Netanyahu in charge of Middle East policy.'


Totally not a surprise, though.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. Hoo boy, fox news is gonna lose a lot of viewers over this
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

For 25 years they've been telling their idiot audience that the Clintons are the spawn of satan. Now they're going to have to do a quick 180 and try to explain that same audience how Hillary Clinton is now the only thing that can save American exceptionalism.

That will be a hard sell, and the verbal gymnastics should be a treat to experience. But I don't believe it will succeed.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
16. This was expected
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:16 PM
May 2016

and it is no surprise that she would move back to the right. What amazes me is how Americans suffer from a peculiar form of amnesia ...

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
22. I'm sure H. Clinton is ready to do business with the Koch brothers.
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:25 PM
May 2016

She seems very cozy with the plutocrats.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
26. "Ready to join forces"? - They have already done so. Remember the Iraq War Resolution?
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:16 AM
May 2016

Remember the opposition to gay marriage?
Remember the support for TPP and TTIP?

Need I go on?

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
31. "But but but party loyalty you're just another puma"
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:10 AM
May 2016

no, fuck you, stuff it. The party has been committing seppuku with a rusty butter knife since this primary started.

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