Hillary forces target Bush donors, Their message to moderate Republicans: She represents your values

[kcjohn1]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hilary-clinton-bush-donors-222872

If she didn't have the fate of millions in her hands, I would be laughing. Less on those who thought she would represent them, but more that she thinks this is a winning strategy. GOP base and rank file voters voted for Trump. The only GOPers left to win over are the elites, and those are in the hundreds. Not many who has consistently voted for GOP is going to vote for Clinton. JUST HORRIBLE STRATEGY.

NEW YORK -- Hillary Clinton’s supporters in recent days have been making a furious round of calls to top Bush family donors to try to convince them that she represents their values better than Donald Trump, multiple sources in both parties told POLITICO.

The moves come as Clinton and the Democratic Party try to take advantage of deep unease among establishment Republicans on Wall Street and elsewhere with Trump’s emergence as the presumptive Republican nominee.

Top targets for the Clinton team include people like Woody Johnson, Jeb Bush’s former finance chair and the owner of the New York Jets. In recent days, Bush’s brother and father, former presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, have said they plan to skip Trump’s nominating convention.

One person close to Clinton said supporters of the former secretary of state drew up a list of Wall Street donors who supported Jeb Bush and other unsuccessful Republican candidates months ago but wanted to wait until Trump locked down the nomination before beginning to make the calls.

“When you think about it there is no downside to making these calls, including for Hillary herself to make then,” this person said. “They may say no but they will talk to her for half an hour about their view of the world and probably say nice things when asked about her publicly. And they might stay away from Trump.”

[silvershadow]

1. Talking to her base. She ran in the wrong primary. nt

[Triana]

6. Yep. n/t

[Dragonfli]

10. I still wonder why, considering her values and "adopted Bush" status, she didn't run as an (R) /nt

[silvershadow]

12. I do too. I really do. nt

[arcane1]

14. One of the goals is to have both parties run by conservatives.

If she had run as a repub, there would be the risk of an actual progressive being the Dem front-runner.

[Dragonfli]

16. Thank you, it makes more sense in such a light. /nt

[senz]

44. Third Way plant -- keep the Dems under control.

No wonder they had her all set up to win before she even announced her candidacy.

I'll bet Bernie was a rude surprise.

[bjo59]

72. Yep. Exactly. Just like Obama was.

[840high]

37. Good question.

[Waiting For Everyman]

38. Exactly. nt

[scscholar]

51. No, she's just trying to take money...

from people that don't deserve their money. Robin Hood!

[roguevalley]

85. it must be hell to be a hillarian

[senz]

2. She knows liberal/progressive Democrats and Independents won't vote for her

so now she's reaching out to a much more natural constituency: moderate Republicans.

This is where she should have been all along.

[Melissa G]

3. +1 n/t

[kcjohn1]

4. I always suspected this was their strategy

Even without Trump.

The thing is though this is loser. They are playing the politics of the 90s. She is making the mistake of thinking majority of the people are happy with the status quo and looking for "moderate/center" candidate. This couldn't be further from the truth. Majority (on both) sides are sick of the system, and this election will be less about "values", and more about who they can trust to take on the "establishment" / "elite". She is already lining up with the elite, and making the job easier on Trump.

He can say I'm taking on both GOP/DEM elite. He will have major more appeal among the crossover vote (dem to gop / gop to dem) than she can hope to have.

[senz]

7. That's why we need a progressive populist to run.

I can think of a really good one, too.

[CoffeeCat]

53. The left never liked her, but her horrific campaign and her state-by-state cheating

made the left despise her even more. Hillary Clinton is no dumb bunny. She knows that she burned, leveled and tore down those bridges.

She's got to hunt for votes elsewhere, outside of the Democratic party.

Best of luck with that, sweetheart. The left doesn't like her policies, but the right has a personal, crazed vendetta against her, that includes believing that she is responsible for killing Ambassador Ted Stevens and also Vince Foster. They know every detail of Travelgate, Whitewater, and the rest of the scandals. And many of them listen to Limbaugh and Hannity because "they're the real truth tellers!"

Shows how desperate she is.

[HooptieWagon]

54. Yep. She's veering hard right.

[Maedhros]

5. Hillary DOES share Bush's values - this should work for her.[n/t]

[Dragonfli]

8. For once she is not lying, she does represent the values of "Bush donors" /nt

[nc4bo]

9. She is what she is. nt

[senz]

35. She is what she always has been. nt

[840high]

39. She is what she always will be.

[NWCorona]

11. Bush already said he wasn't gonna campaign for Trump

[farleftlib]

13. Wow, she's actually being honest for once

I think I need my fainting couch now...

[yourout]

27. You beat me to it.

[dchill]

42. When being honest is just a calculation,

It's not real honesty. But I'll bet she's really trying.

[farleftlib]

60. Good point

It's being factually true is only a technicality.

[corkhead]

15. Hillary / Jeb! 2016

A pragmatic choice to bring our country together!

[senz]

31. There's safety in dynasties!

They have that "family" feeling.

[Tarc]

17. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

What's wrong with gathering as much as you can from even those Republicans who are a part of Team NeverTrump?

[Loudestlib]

19. This is what's wrong.

"Their message to moderate Republicans: She represents your values better than Trump."

What values does she represent?

What values do you share with republicans?

[joshcryer]

23. Religious.

She's probably the first really religious president since Carter.

[Loudestlib]

24. They are targeting Wall Street donors.

[joshcryer]

26. And?

They can't be religious?

[Loudestlib]

36. LOL

You think that the values that Hillary shares with Wall Street donors are religious values?

[joshcryer]

45. That's certainly one argument.

[dflprincess]

69. The "prosperity gospel"

aka "gospel of greed" which brings us the message of supply-side Jesus.

[senz]

33. "Ye cannot serve both God and Mammon." "Thou shalt not lie."

She's so religious.

[joshcryer]

49. First she's a member of the family...

...and now she's a mammonite...

The idiotic insults know no bounds. Clinton wears her religion on her sleeve. I think she's actually sincere, and a true believer. It's one reason the black community likes her, she doesn't shy away from her beliefs.

[senz]

50. The Famly are rightwingers.

Hill serves money, power, and ego.

Scoundrels use religion to manipulate their fellow human beings.

Wake up.

[HooptieWagon]

56. So is Clinton.

Neoliberal on economics, neoconservative on foreign policy. She aligns closely with Jeb Bush, who was an original founder of PNAC. She's already teamed up with Robert Kagan. Shortly we'll be hearing from the Hillarians how wonderfull the Bushes are.

[senz]

62. We take that truth to be self-evident

but I'm not sure the commenter to whom I was replying knows what the Family is.

Which brings up another interesting sidelight: Rachel Maddow's investigative reporting of The Family. Maddow is crazy about Hill. Wonder if she knows?

[HooptieWagon]

65. Rachel...

1) is paid
2) desparately wants a woman POTUS, and is willing to lower standards to get one.

I wonder what she thinks about Hillary schmoozing up to Bush donors.

[roguevalley]

87. she also wants her job

[Fumesucker]

74. Jimmy Carter doesn't worship Mammon

[roguevalley]

86. she's not religious. read Matthew 25:31-44

A ND you will see nothing about her isn't fake

[Armstead]

93. I remember the days when the Bushes were the opposition

ah nostalgia

[pat_k]

18. That's the way to rally the Democratic base

...against her.

Tying herself to the unlawfully appointed BushCheney regime is a brilliant way to alienate the Democratic base. How could she possibly believe she could make up those losses by "winning over" Republicans? The more she caters to Republicans, the deeper she digs herself into a hole.

Mindboggling.

If she's the nominee, she's gonna make it tough for even the most passionate "stop Trump" voter to lift a finger for her.

[senz]

28. The Clintons are MUCH closer to the Bushes than to the Obamas

or the Carters.

Much, much closer. "Brother from another mother."

[pat_k]

80. Oh well.

I guess I haven't paid enough attention. I had the impression that Bill and H.W. were on cordial terms as members of the "President's club," but didn't realize they (and the rest of their "clans&quot considered themselves good friends. Steal an election. Ruin the nation. Torture. So what? Pass the potatoes.

[dana_b]

20. no surprise at all!

she should be who she really is.

[djean111]

21. Well, it is not like we all didn't already KNOW she represents Republican values. n/t

[arcane1]

22. We'll be expected to believe she's taking their money to do what they DON'T want.

[senz]

25. Because, as we all know, she can't be bought!

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[Go Vols]

29. Reliving the 80's,but without the big hair?

"Obama says he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s"

Hillary is Obama 3.0?

I did like the big hair tho,the other not so much.

[msongs]

30. Gee Uncle Bernie says we need to reach out to repubs so why is it bad when she does it? nt

[kcjohn1]

34. Which Bush donors is Bernie reaching out to?

[840high]

40. You won't get an answer -

that poster lays one on and moves on.

[ProfessorPlum]

82. I applaud this post

Well said

[HooptieWagon]

66. Kissinger, Kagan, Kochs...

Not the republican support Sanders wants, but Hillary schmoozes with them.

[Jack Bone]

79. Bush isn't Republican...Bush is THE DEVIL!!

[Broward]

32. Back to her roots. She's a right-winger anyway so she does represent their interests.

[Waiting For Everyman]

46. There it is. And now she admits it herself OPENLY.

I'll be bookmarking this, it's a "keeper". Everything summed up in a nutshell. What arrogance this is!

This is Big Reason Number Two why she does not deserve any Dem's vote.

Big Reason Nume One is that nobody under active FBI investigation should be running for President, or get anyone's vote for President. Our bar doesn't need to get THAT low. We have more highly qualified people in this country than we should need to go there. Matter of fact, we have one already in this race.

And there are innumerable reasons behind One and Two.

[AzDar]

47. Right up her alley...

[senz]

48. But...but...Hillary's a DEMOCRAT...and Bernie...ISN'T...

[HooptieWagon]

52. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

[senz]

55. Related OP from today --

“Candidate in race most like Bush and Cheney is Hillary Clinton,” says GOP strategist

[nc4bo]

57. Money, Money, Money, Moooney. Some people got to have it - a-hay. Some people really need it.

Farmer says it's time to stop milking dry cows. It's goat time!

Money, money, money, money, money [6x]
Some people got to have it
Some people really need it
Listen to me y'all, do things
Do things, do bad things with it
You wanna do things, do things
Do things, good things with it
Talk about cash money, money
Talk about cash money
Dollar bills, yall

[VulgarPoet]

96. L, O, D, S, Of, M, O, E, N, E, what's that spell? LOAD$AMONEY! (prob'ly!)

[IdaBriggs]

58. I am so surprised ... NOT. Sigh. nt

[ChisolmTrailDem]

59. I want to hear from some Hillary supporters about this! Where the fuck are y'all hiding!?

This right-wing shit is you all's fault and now you want to hide!

What do y'all have to say for yourselves, supporting a "DEMOCRATIC" candidate that is now begging at the feet of REPUBLICAN benefactors?

Speak up or be considered cowards!

[senz]

67. I'm getting the impression that

Hill supporters avoid kicking threads that are damning to their candidate. They don't want negative information "getting out there," so they try to let informative OPs drop down the list.

One of their big memes has been that Hill is a Democrat and Bernie isn't. That's what they want Dem voters and superdelegates to think.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

68. Certainly what I think too and it's a cowardly way to avoid facing what they have wrought.

[jmousso75]

61. Hillary forces target Bush donors, Their message to moderate Republicans: She represents your value

Hillary will make a deal with the devil to win. Just like Bill, she will sell the middle class out.
I am a life long democrat and I cannot cast my vote for her. I can't vote for Trump either, probably sit this one out.

[nc4bo]

63. She would like to have their dollas too! Needs a new source. too many hip to the Victory Slush Fund

Fresh meat, new blood and all that.

She's every woman don't cha know. She reminds me of North Carolina weather: Don't like what you see today, hang around a day or so, it's bound to change!

[PowerToThePeople]

64. I do not vote Republican

So I can not vote for Hillary.

[dflprincess]

70. I keep waiting for the kids from Camp Weathervane to show up and tell us how

this proves she's a real Democrat.

:shrugs:

[ebayfool]

71. And asked why she took their money? Well, it's what they offered! :) n/t

[dana_b]

88. good one! n/t

[Broward]

73. Her argument essentially boils down to that she's a better Repub than Trump.

[Buns_of_Fire]

75. So much for party labels. In November, we'll get to choose between a Demopublican

and a Republicrat. Clothespins aren't going to cut it anymore -- now, we move on to the Barf Bags.

[Sheepshank]

77. Yet Bernie wooing the Republican vote was lauded as magnificent

Money is money and the Bushes hate Trump. This cross over is bad? The hypocrisy here is astounding

[roguevalley]

89. votes not cash. how hard is that to distinguish?

[Sheepshank]

90. creating a distinguishing factor in this case is a pathetic justification at hypocrisy n/t

[Arugula Latte]

91. Seriously? You don't understand the difference between soliciting votes vs. money?

One makes you beholden to pay back; the other doesn't. That's a pretty basic concept.

[HooptieWagon]

78. Kick

[merrily]

81. She's called Republicans the enemy of which she is most proud, but she represents their values?

Talk about cognitive dissonance, talking out of both sides of one's mouth, etc.

[CrispyQ]

83. This is what 20 years of We Suck Less strategy gets you, a democrat begging repubs for their support

The dem brand is badly tarnished.

[JEB]

84. K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links.

[Arugula Latte]

92. She's probably hinting that she'll make the TPP a priority.

She's such a thoroughly corrupt candidate, it's almost breathtaking.

[Amaril]

94. Oh! So *that's* what she meant by "unity"

Got it!

[pdsimdars]

95. Probably becasue she's broke and maxed out her own donors.

[grahamhgreen]

97. So, she'll reach out to Republicans but not Bernie Democrats?