2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow the DNC Just Rigged the National Convention to Destroy Bernie Sanders
http://usuncut.com/politics/sanders-says-dnc-rigging-convention/At the DNCs national convention in July, there are three standing committees: Rules, Credentials, and the party platforms Drafting committee....
Under the partys rules, the DNC chair has the power to appoint 25 at-large executive committee members to each committee. Out of the 45 names Sen. Sanders submitted, Wasserman Schultz only appointed three, none of whom are serving on the rules committee, which is arguably the most important.
In his blistering letter to Wasserman Schultz, he accuses her of playing a disproportionate role in her appointments. Sen. Sanders suggested that both his campaign and Clintons campaign should have a bigger say in who gets appointed to each committee.
DWS must go!
http://www.timcanova.com
LuvLoogie
(6,975 posts)Rules are rules
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)has stacked the committees against Sanders and in favor of the Oligarchy favorite. What does Jan have to do with anything?
"The campaigns don't write the platform. " Ok, duh! No one said otherwise. Can you spell S T R A W M A N? D
And the rules committee don't write the platform either.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Jemmons
(711 posts)If she looses in november, you have earned yourself a fat slice of that pie.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Jemmons
(711 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Treachery. You' re proving what so many activists for voting representation have been saying right along.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)ok. If you wanna spin it that way. I call it the person who won defines the agenda.
Triana
(22,666 posts)And it wasn't yet determined who was ahead (except in polls, which are NOT primaries).
If Sanders submitted 45 names and only 3 were selected (by whom?) at that point, then this makes it even MORE unfair.
DWS is a fascist, ham-fisted, bull-headed, lousy and grossly unfair chair for DNC who has manipulated every process possible to favor Hillary and done so from BEFORE most or even any states had a primary.
She hasn't a CLUE what Democracy IS and should not be the chair of any party with the word "Democratic" in it.
I'd urge any and everyone to donate to and support Tim Canova so the DEMOCRATIC party can start ACTING like one beginning with getting rid of Ms Schultz - since the party machinery seems unwilling to get rid of her or to follow Democratic processes in selecting party candidates during primary season.
WHO wonders why so many people are registered as 'unaffiliated' or 'independent' when party apparatus act like goddamned fascist jackasses? And all those indys DO NOT donate to the party either and they're CONSTANTLY begging for $$. The f*cking geniuses are SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT with their unfair, undemocratic rules and by allowing ham-fisted, bull-headed chairs to run the thing who already have a favorite candidate and who manipulate every process they can find to their favorite candidates' advantage EVEN BEFORE THE FIRST VOTE IS CAST.
Something very VERY UNDemocratic about that.
DWS needs to GO and the party has some SERIOUS re-evaluating to do, IMO.
If they fail to do so, then they will continue to bleed members and donations.
Up to them. Because there's always going to be a Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucninich or someone ELSE for DEMOCRATS do donate money to and support whether Little Debbie or DNC likes them or not and sooner or later, one those PROGRESSIVES whom the DNC and their machinery seek to stomp into the ground and out of the race every Presidential election is going to WIN in spite of them.
And THEN they WILL rethink themselves because they'll have no choice.
They can do it NOW. Or LATER. But they are going to have to do it.
MARK. MY. WORDS.
LuvLoogie
(6,975 posts)not the platform. The candidates don't write the platform. You can have a candidate run on and get a lot of votes for free butt rubs. Doesn't mean it's going to be part of the platform.
Triana
(22,666 posts)... and any decisions made under it ie: which people submitted by each candidate to sit on the various committees at convention should reflect fairness, not be 98% selected from the chair's favorite candidate.
And the EXCUSE that SHE was 'getting all the votes' and so that's why DWS did it similarly doesn't wash then. You can't have it both ways ie:
Well DWS selected committee members as she did because Hillary was winning!
then...
Well the people's votes don't have anything to do with the platform because they're voting for the candidate! So how DWS choose committee members is irrelevant!
THE. MANNER. IN. WHICH. SHE. CHOOSE. COMMITTEE. MEMBERS. IS. UNFAIR.
No matter HOW you look at it or what excuses you come up with under "the platform".
DWS choose 98% of committee members from HILLARYS list and only 3 from Bernie's
He called that out as unfair because whether we're talking candidate or platform - it's UNFAIR.
Your argument is frankly, invalid.
LisaM
(27,800 posts)Last edited Sat May 7, 2016, 12:50 AM - Edit history (2)
Calling it out now seems strange.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)primary process had not yet really started.
That's crazy. That means that the going to the convention is for any delegates who are not close friends of Debbie Wasserman Schultz is rather superfluous.
Oh, well. Bernie's delegates will have lots of time on their hands and probably lots of friends to spend it with if Debbie does not change the make-up of the committees.
The voters are speaking and supporting Bernie in great numbers. The Democratic Party is hurting itself if it excludes Bernie's delegates from the committees.
I remember 1968. I do not want that to happen again.
But the more I see of what is going on in the DNC at this time, the less moved I feel about getting out and voting in November. I am certain that a lot of Bernie supporters feel that way.
What a horrible choice! Hillary or Trump. Dismal.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)Way to go DWS
Bernie is attacking the party that allowed him to join
just so he didn't have to run as an Indie.
Surely Bernie wasn't so politically naive as to think
there wouldn't be poilitical payback.
Bernie is second tier for now tho.
Time to go after Trump.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)party doesn't benefit the party? I think you'd be crying much more if he were indy.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)he wouldn't have even made it onto the track.
Bernie had his run. He did better than expected.
But he's not going to win the nomination.
And I sincerely hope that after Hillary is sworn in
and the Democrats take the senate that the senate Democrats
rake him over the coals.
Strip him of any decent committee positions and cut off any federal money that
goes to Vermont.
Bernie decided to take the low road with the RW smears.
I hope they make him pay.
moriah
(8,311 posts)I am fine with the idea of adjusting the members of the party platform committee to reflect the delegate percentage each candidate received in the pledged delegates.
I would be fine with it being a rule from now on.
I think it's a lot better than a full-on contested Convention.
I've seen enough of Bernies behavior already.
Garden variety slash & burn tactics.
Too bad the adoration went to his head.
He lost.
Too bad.
It's nothing like saying the other candidate wants to dismantle Medicare and take health insurance away from "millions and millions and millions of people." All puppies and rainbows over there.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)snot
(10,520 posts)All I've seen is reminders of facts.
Of course she's laundering money. Haha
And everybody knows she's unqualified to be president. Well except
for the millions of people who have voted for her.
Bernie had his 15 minutes. It's winding down.
This time next month it'll be done.
Bernie gave it his best shot. He never even got close.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)She's beating Bernie like a gong.
That's really all I care about.
I don't want the GOP to even get a look at the Whitehouse.
Bernie's done.
On to the GE.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)You have to win to effect change.
Bernie lost.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)and the change she effected was laundering money.
That's why she's your candidate and not mine.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)I'm expecting it to be Obamas 3rd term.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)It must feel good stop pretending.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)I'm a Hillary supporter and never claimed otherwise.
I've been a Democrat since I cast my first ballot
in 1980.
Have no idea what you're talking about.
Peace be with you and yours
frylock
(34,825 posts)Salt the fucking earth.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)Mess with the bull. Feel the horns.
Bernie should have thought it thru a little better.
frylock
(34,825 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)Bernie is going to lose.
Personally I hope he stays in til the convention.
Then it'll be a total rejection of him. He won't be able to say
he's more electable or that more Democrats prefer him.
It'll just be a simple flat out no contest no caveat rejection.
Then Bernie go back to his Indie seat in the senate
and whine about how mistreated he was.
I don't know or care where his supporters go.
But most of them will disperse.
I can't wait for the convention.
frylock
(34,825 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)more severe annoyance and contempt.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)For the Bernie or Bust indies. That's exactly what it is.
They've been whining for months now.
They don't like our nominee, they don't like the rules, they'll only vote for Bernie
everybody is a big cheater, everything is a conspiracy, red states shouldn't count unless Bernie wins them.
I don't care who they vote for.
There were primaries. Democrats voted. They majority voted for Hillary.
In the real world the Bernie or Bust groups number is negligible.
Let them go back to the Green or Libertarian party.
And for the ones who were never pro Bernie anyway and were only ever
part of the Anybody But Her demographic. Yes I'm very much looking forward to their angry impotent rage and the threats of withholding their votes
and their tears when Hillary becomes president.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)and having been at DU since close to the beginning....I'm here to tell you....not all of us Bernie supporters are Indy or Green. I've been a registered democrat my entire voting life...and that's several decades now.
Aside from politics, announcing that you receive more joy from your opponent losing and how happy it makes you to see others lose...
your issues go far beyond politics. You should seek help if this is, as you say, what makes you happy.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)Civil discourse vacated some months ago.
I decided that since it is the internet and the community rules here
were a little more lax during the primary that I would act accordingly.
And yes I'm enjoying seeing the reaction to Bernies loss
by some of the rudest people I've ever encountered here at DU.
I joined in 2002.
Posting RW talking points about Whitewater FFS.
Nastiness being spewed by many people who have been here less than a year.
The constant threatening to not vote if it's not Bernie so Hillary can lose.
If you've been voting as long as you say then you're obviously not the youth vote.
Neither am I and I'd never IRL let my vote be effected by a lot of yammering
on a website.
It's the internet. The people I'm addressing came here to throw bombs and throw tantrums.
I don't much care what they do. I will however get a little thrill
watching their reactions to Hillary getting the nomination.
After all. Politics aint beanbag.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)You're old enough to see that in your above response, we could swap the candidates names and it would be accurate for both of the supporters for both candidates. People have gotten vicious on both sides. I'm just trying (though not always succeeding) to be pragmatic.
For instance, though I'm a Bernie fan and caucused for him here in Colorado, I've been around the block enough to know that the fbi "investigation" isn't going to produce some magical political noose for which Hillarys campaign will suddenly collapse. It may come from Trump because reality means nothing to that guy. But I have never considered for a second that some indictment was going to come down from the fbi. So I don't use that (and several other unrealistic memes from my fellow Bernie supporters) as a crutch in my arguments.
In this case, because of DU and it's long time once unanimous support of Bernie (you've been here a little longer than me so you know what i speak of regardless of your current feelings about the Senator), I became a fan of Bernies. It was right after I joined DU that I learned about him, and I agreed with his statements on the current state of our government. Not just some of his statements. ALL of his statements. And his message has remained the same since I learned of his existence.
For me, that's enough to make me write in a vote for him. I've never done that before. I've always voted straight dem...and for whomever was printed on the ballot. I have never had a candidate in all my years hold the same exact stances on all my issues...until Bernie.
For that reason, for my own piece of mind, I will cast a vote for him regardless of who the nominee is.
It's not to make you or others suffer. It's not so I can get my yucks if the worst happens. It's just those are where I've always wanted my principles to be, and it's just time to start voting for who I really want to vote for. I'll sleep better at night.
In my case, if that upsets you, I'm not going to point at you and deride you for personal joy. I'm just going to say, "I recognize this upsets you. We just hold differing views.".
griffi94
(3,733 posts)I'll be voting for Hillary.
But I'm in Texas so it really doesn't matter in the scheme of things.
I had no issue with Bernie and in fact liked his message.
Until he started to basically attack the Democratic party in general
and Hillary in particular with crap like money laundering.
As I said in my last post. This is the interent. Not real life.
Being in Austin most of my friends voted for Bernie in our primary.
We don't fight about that. In fact it never even comes up.
It might would get nasty if I started personally attacking them
and vice versa.
This is a website for Democrats. The Bernie supporters have earned my contempt with the never ending RW attacks and the tortured math that magically
makes Bernie the nominee.
When the attacks and the math don't work they start summoning the indictment fairy.
It's the internet. Not real life.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the Big Money Fat Cats, wants Hillary so badly. Sanders is fighting the corruption that some seem to embrace. "Political payback" for what? Daring to challenge the "chosen one"?? Democracy is inconvenient sometimes. Cheaters will always get their "payback".
griffi94
(3,733 posts)of a majority of Democrats who want nothing to do with him.
They rejected his message straight up.
No he's whining about rules he agreed to when he asked to run as a Democrat.
Bernie isn't fighting corruption.
He's doing what he's done his entire life in the senate.
He's sitting on the sidelines complaining about how unfair everything is.
He's aimed most of smears at our candidate.
I hope when this is over the Democratic Party makes him pay.
I hope they take his committee assignments and any federal projects that send money to Vermont.
Bernie only got to be here because the party allowed it.
He agreed to their rules before he joined the race.
Now he doesn't want to honor his part of the deal.
Jemmons
(711 posts)You think the super delegates will rescue your candidate when most of them flip the bird at another Clinton presidency?
griffi94
(3,733 posts)for the majority of voters under 45.
As I've stated before IRL none of the Bernie supporters I know
are threatening to throw a tantrum if they don't get their way.
The Bernie or Bust crowd don't have the numbers to swing that.
They're a very small very loud very angry and very impotent group.
I'f they had the real numbers then Bernie would be winning.
Just look at the scoreboard.
He's lost.
Jemmons
(711 posts)I will file that with what ever else I learn about the situation.
And thanks for the mention of "numbers". Not as good as actual digits, but still better than mere guessing.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)The anecdotal evidence is at least as valid as
the theoretical evidence on a website that suggests
that millions of voters will suddenly not vote or
vote 3rd party if they don't get their way.
Jemmons
(711 posts)We seem to have different standards of evidence. Let us just leave it at that.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Its the Democratic establishment.
The overall votes from the primaries are not a rejection.
You want to be able to recognize that?
Look on the Republican side of the 2016 primariesa fine example of that turned out be Jeb Bush. You knowthe one Bush who Hillary is liking for his donors.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)WTH are you talking about.
The Democratic establishment?
And you're wrong the overall votes in the primaries are a rejection.
Bernie has been rejected from becoming the Democratic nominee.
I don't care at all what the Republicans do.
Bernie isn't going to be the nominee.
His supporters are going to have to learn to deal with
their disappointment.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)Bernie lost.
I don't need to be paid to see that.
He suffered a complete and total rejection of his ideas
from the majority of the Democratic primary voters.
He's down by an overwhelming amount of delegates. 300.
Hillary has millions more votes than he does.
Maybe somebody should ask all those voters if they were paid hahahaha.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)they certainly are not trying to help her
moriah
(8,311 posts)... and it's one I think the Clinton campaign ought to endorse.
Edit: it being his suggestion regarding reforming the platform committee given the will of the voters is close
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)The party just gave everyone under 30 a big-ass middle finger and said, "You'll take what we give you and like it!" Now they''re going to want us to all fall in line and support their corrupt, corporate stooge, and the cries about the supreme court are already in full swing.
Should've thought about that before shoving Hillary down our throats.
msongs
(67,393 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It's time to throw the corrupt out.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)One who is a corporate stooge, who likes wars and the profits they bring. What else does Hillary offer the corruption class? It must have been a lot, to get so many not to just tip the scales but to sit their proverbial fat asses on them.
Trump is the perfect person for her to run against. He's loud, obnoxious, says plenty of racist and sexist stuff so that anyone outside of the deep "conservative" bubble would be horrified. They'll vote for a corrupt Hillary rather than see Trump happen. Of course, Trump plays right into what the republican party has been doing to its sheep for decades, so much to their horror he secures that nomination.
merrily
(45,251 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=404294
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025588407#post3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251800201#post6
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4413137
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5145598
Just a few of your one or two line posts.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...shit about Hillary? Fuck that! No credibility at all!
merrily
(45,251 posts)I only used a few of the links. There are more.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #7)
merrily This message was self-deleted by its author.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)I'll never join your party because if I did I would be a hypocrite. Now I'm going to join your party because I need the media exposure but I still want you to know I really don't like it! You're a bunch of corrupt cheaters and I'm going to sue you. And now I'm losing, but here is my list of demands! What a silly, petty man.
LuvLoogie
(6,975 posts)I mean, how does he do it with the whole world against him?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Last edited Sun May 15, 2016, 05:02 PM - Edit history (3)
An independent in name only in many ways
He caucused with the Democrats for, 16 years in the United States House of Representatives, 10 years in the United States Senate;
where he served on many committees Representing the Democratic party such as the:
Committee on the Budget (Ranking Member)
Committee on Environment and Public Works
Subcommittee on Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
Subcommittee on Green Jobs and the New Economy
Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure
Committee on Energy and Natural Resources
Subcommittee on Energy
Subcommittee on National Parks
Subcommittee on Water and Power
Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Subcommittee on Children and Families
Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging (Ranking Member)
Committee on Veterans' Affairs (chairman)
He has every right to expect respect from those he served with such loyalty and in so many capacities.
The Democratic party must consider him a true blue ally to have given him seats on so many committees.
He was also a co-founder of the Democratic Progressive caucus.
It appears to me the only one's that are offended by his former Independent status are all the Moderate Republicans that are far less honest and register as "Democrats" while voting for Republican policy, those "Democrats" are most often both conservative and liars
He has done a great many good things for the Democratic party that they could not take credit for without him!
Because the list is derived from Congress official database of floor actions, it does not include achievements like his insertion of funding for veterans health care into an Iraq war spending bill because that occurred off of the House floor while the bill was in conference. Nor does the list include what is perhaps his most significant achievement providing health care to an additional 10 million mostly low-income Americans by getting Senate majority leader Harry Reid to add $11 billion in funding for community health centers that provide care regardless of a persons ability to pay to the 2010 Affordable Care Act in exchange for Sanders rallying liberal Democrats who were considering voting against the bill once conservative Democrats removed the public option.
Those who mistakenly believe that a President Sanders would be powerless in the face of a hostile Republican Congress should bear in mind that he managed to pass these bills and amendments in spite of Republican control of both the House (1995-2006) and the presidency (2001-2008). Furthermore, it was Republicans in the House and Senate who compromised with him (not the other way around) on major veterans legislation in 2014. His original bill expanding services for veterans and fixing the scandal-ridden Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) cost $17.3 billion. The price tag of the final compromise bill? $16.3 billion.
H.R.4206 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act) enacted as S. 3312 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act).
H.Amdt. 98 to H.R. 665 (Victims of Justice Act of 1995)
H.Amdt. 210 to H.R. 830 (Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995)
H.Amdt. 1203 to H.R. 3666 Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 1997
H.J.Res.129 enacted as S.J.Res.38 (A joint resolution granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact)
H.Amdt.174 to H.R.1757 (Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998)
H.Amdt.267 to H.R.2160 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)
H.Amdt.289 to H.R.2266 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1998) -- National Guard Starbase program
H.Amdt.368 to H.R.2378 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1998) -- Prohibit funds for the U.S. Customs Office from being used to allow the importation into the U.S. any material mined, produced, or manufactured by forced or indentured child labor.
H.Amdt.388 to H.R.2267 (Departments of Commerce, Justice, and State, the Judiciary, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)
H.Amdt.569 to H.R.6 (Higher Education Amendments of 1998)
H.Amdt.614 to H.R.3694 (Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999) -- Reduce the intelligence budget for fiscal year 1999 by 5% with an exemption for the CIA Retirement and Disability Fund.
H.Amdt.626 to H.R.10 (Financial Services Act of 1998) -- Require the Comptroller General to report to Congress regarding the efficacy and benefits of uniformly limiting any commissions, fees, markups, or other costs incurred by customers in the acquisition of financial products.
H.Amdt.706 to H.R.4101 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Increase funding for nutrition programs for senior citizens by $10 million
H.Amdt.708 to H.R.4103 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Prohibit funding to be used to enter into or renew a contract with any company owned, or partially owned, by the Peoples Republic of China or the Peoples Liberation Army of the Peoples Republic of China.
H.Amdt.724 to H.R.4104 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1999) enacted as H.R. 2490 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2000) -- National Archives and Records Administration improvements
H.Amdt.127 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000)
H.Amdt.136 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- national pilot program to promote agritourism
H.Amdt.258 to H.R.2466 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) enacted as H.R.3194 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2000) -- deficit reduction; and reduces fossil energy research and development funding
H.Amdt.442 to H.R.2684 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- health care services for veterans in rural areas
H.Amdt.791 to H.R.4577 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2001) -- (relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms)
H.Amdt.818 to H.R.4578 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2001) -- weatherization assistance and energy conservation programs and reduce fossil fuel energy research and development programs
H.Amdt.238 to H.R.2590 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2002) -- Prohibit the importation of goods made by forced or indentured child labor.
H.Amdt.376 to H.R.3061 (Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2002) -- relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms
H.Amdt.404 to H.R.3338 (Department of Defense and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Recovery from and Response to Terrorist Attacks on the United States Act, 2002) -- Provide $100 million for federally qualified community health centers.
H.Amdt.255 to H.R.2691 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Increase funding for weatherization assistance grants
H.Amdt.336 to H.R.2861 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) enacted as H.R.2673 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Prohibit the use of funds in the bill to implement any policy prohibiting the Directors of the Veterans Integrated Service Networks from conducting outreach or marketing to enroll new veterans within their respective networks.
S.Amdt.737 to H.R.1591 (U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007) -- fund weatherization assistance program
S.Amdt.1515 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- Establish an energy efficiency and renewable energy worker training program
S.Amdt.1525 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- use of solar hot water heaters in certain Federal buildings
S.Amdt.4384 to H.R.3221 (Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008) -- Increase specially adapted housing benefits for disabled veterans.
S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- re child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces
S.Amdt.2271 to H.R.2997 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2010) -- funds for the school community garden pilot program
S.Amdt.2601 to H.R.3326 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010) -- veteran outreach and reintegration services
S.Amdt.3738 to S.3217 (Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010) -- let the American people know the names of the recipients of over $2 trillion in taxpayer assistance from the Federal Reserve System
S.Amdt.306 to H.R.1 (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) -- Require recipients of TARP funding to meet strict H-1B worker hiring standard to ensure non-displacement of U.S. workers
S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- report to Congress on financial assistance for child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces.
S.Amdt.4280 to H.R.4899 (Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2010) -- make publicly available the contractor integrity performance database established under the Clean Contracting Act of 2008
S.2450 (Veterans Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014) enacted as H.R.3230 (Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014) -- VA reform bill
S.893 (Veterans Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013) -- increase rates of veterans disability compensation, additional compensation for dependents, etc.
S.Amdt.2146 to S.1471 (Alicia Dawn Koehl Respect for National Cemeteries Act) re interring the remains and honoring the memory of a person in a national cemetery
[font size="3" ; color="8B0000"]Also, compare her record to his perhaps you will gain an understanding of her right wing infiltration into the party[/font]
The Right Wing meme been spread here often appears to be that even with all his years of public service, a progressive like Bernie Sanders was too far to the left to accomplish anything, being a former Independent and all.
That one has to be able to find the buypartisan way, in other words, adopt the least offensive GOP legislation as your own if you wish to accomplish anything, if one is not a member of the Republican party itself.
The problem with this bullshit GOP meme is that it is completely false, he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, of all sizes and shapes, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.
....Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members. ....
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....Sanders did something particularly original, which was that he passed amendments that were exclusively progressive, advancing goals such as reducing poverty and helping the environment, and he was able to get bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable and progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.
Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:....
[font color="red"]Much more, but due to the three paragraph rule you will have to follow this link[/font]
I dare those that pretend the GOP meme is true and are spreading it for them, to read the article!
There are so many examples in fact that you really need to read the entire article as it completely dispels this current Right Wing myth that Bernie Sanders after all his time in Congress achieved almost nothing, when in fact he was literally one of the most effective members of Congress! Read the facts in the article itself, clearly the GOP is spreading lies about him, after all, who besides Rove and the GOP would use such lying sleazy bullshit tactics against someone that helped Democrats get as much progressive policy put into effect during his tenure?...
[font size="3"][center]Robert Reich, Clinton Secretary of Labor, on Bernie's effectiveness in Congress[/font][/center]
Lets Compare Hillary Clinton's commitment and "Democratic" values accomplished by way of comparison.
Not to say Hillary Clinton did not achieve some things during her six year hobby involved in legislating (the last two were spent campaigning and fundraising)
She managed to vote for the Patriot Act, for an illegal war, and even whip some votes with her passionate selling of the Bush/Cheney lies. (she deserves some credit for that,) and those of you that enjoy war should be and are rightfully quite proud of that.
As a Senator Clinton did get some things accomplished, Clinton sponsored three bills that became law: S.3145, S.3613, and S.1241. The first of these renamed a highway in New York state, the second renamed a post office in New York City, and the third established the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in Troy, New York and authorized funding to set the site up.
To be truly fair, she also tried to put an end to the epidemic of flag burning and ban some media, but these, her most favorite things were too hard for her to get done, she just couldn't get them passed, she may have lacked the chops to do it, but BUT SHE TRIED REAL HARD!
The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings.
Unsuccessfully unfortunately for the more puritan among us, sigh, if only she were more effective at passing such laws, we would finally be safe from cluster bombs, eerr.. I mean f-bombs (she voted against ending the use of child killing cluster bombs, my "misspeak" or my bad, if you prefer) she likes cluster bombs, so much so that after some donations to very, very, special charity, she made sure as SoS to sell cluster bombs to those altruistic rulers of Saudi Arabia! She deserves credit for that!
The kids just love playing with those rather than video games.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/13/cluster-bombs-are-not-good-children-hillary
Speaking of her only other "superior experience" on her resume'
Lets review her tenure as Secretary of state, great experience! for a neocon war hawk, she deserves huge credit for that!
She is basically a moderate Republican that Registered as a Democrat
He was Basically an FDR Democrat that Registered as an Independent (likely because he did not want to be identified with the ever increasing Right Wing infiltration and taint of such an anti worker "modern" party.
You are either being grossly unfair or are misrepresenting the truth while obfuscating reality, or perhaps are simply grossly uninformed regarding what you appear to post about with such a propped up sense of false authority. I don't much care for any of those options and find you unworthy of reading, let alone responding to you ever again.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)No way to thank you for taking the time to do this.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)I'm sure some Congressional Dems are still grateful for that, even if some Hillary supporters aren't. He has done a hell of a lot for the Dem party, never looking for limelight for it. That is why the public doesn't know him, he was never an attention or credit seeker, unlike some who are all about ambition and recognition.
I may have missed that if you included it.
Fantastic post!!!
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Response to KamaAina (Original post)
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jillan
(39,451 posts)And a portion of them should be on the rules committee.
DWS continues to destroy the Dem party. Not to mention she has not done anything to GOTV since she has been in her position.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Because the Partys platform is a statement of our values, the DNC is committed to an open, inclusive and representative process, the DNC said in a statement. Both of our campaigns will be represented on the Drafting Committee, and just as we did in 2008 and 2012, the public will have opportunities to participate.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)within the party and to make sure that disruptors don't tear the party to pieces don't take it over for a personal vanity campaign of a man who has refused to be a democrat for almost all his life. There is no way Sanders should now be allowed to substitute his own goons in at the last minute to sweep away the rules and install a dictatorship of the people of her secretive elites who are a minority anyway.
I suppose it is a good thing that Sanders didn't start 10 years earlier. He might have succeeded instead of failed.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)Give til it hurts......her.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Nothing was JUST changed to assist Hillary or hurt Bernie.
Gawd these memes are what actually hurts Bernie in the long run. People find out the truth, and they realize all the phoney whining and claims of unfair play start making the whole campaign look pathetic.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)the right wing Corporate takeover of the old Democratic Party will have been completed and the TPP will replace Government
Here comes the New World Order.
shanti
(21,675 posts)in PNAC, yup.
progressoid
(49,964 posts)There are dozens of other little procedural wounds DWS and the DNC will inflict upon Bernie & Company in the coming weeks in months.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That is being said without looking into the data used here. usuncut has a bit of a reputation using deception.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Perhaps it might apply to a candidate who gets 3 percent of the vote.
But when a candidate wins something close to half, you dismiss and insult that at your peril.