Why are you still in the race, Hillary? Poll after poll shows nobody really likes you.

[Live and Learn]

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And many of those have excellent reasons for thinking you would be a poor choice. It isn't that many of us don't like you personally but we find your 'little mistakes,' especially the ones that killed people to make you a very poor choice to lead us.

[factfinder_77]

1. The king of branding is going to have a hard time changing voters’ perceptions of Clinton.

As The Huffington Post reported in mid-April, of the roughly $383 million spent on campaign television advertising in 2016, only about 2 percent was on anti-Sanders ads, much of which just briefly mentioned his name or featured his image.

“People are pointing to his general election numbers as being stronger than Clinton’s, and that’s largely a byproduct of the fact he hasn’t seen incoming fire,” said Brendan Nyhan, a political science professor at Dartmouth College and a columnist for The New York Times.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-election_us_572cae72e4b016f378957726

[w4rma]

2. Negative attacks on Bernie backfire back onto the attacker. (nt)

[Live and Learn]

7. +1 nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. You know it... same thing will happen in the general, which is why Bernie is the ONLY candidate who can put out the tRumpster fire.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[JaneyVee]

63. Ballot box after ballot box proves people like Hillary. 12Mil+

[Mike Nelson]

3. She has more votes than...

...anyone on either side. Dropping out would be very stupid. I don't think she's stupid and don't expect Hillary will drop out of the race.

[chervilant]

24. More votes, more votes!!!

Just keep telling yourself that, Mike.

[auntpurl]

31. But...she does.

[JaneyVee]

64. Umm...who has the most votes?

[1StrongBlackMan]

70. But are you counting internet polls?

[rock]

71. And the unicorns

How they voting?

[FlatBaroque]

29. The best feature of the HillVac 3000 Vote Tabulator

is that Hillary wins whenever she needs to!

[pinebox]

85. There were 17 people in the GOP race. SEVENTEEN.

Compared to 4 for Dems.

[randome]

4. I'm guessing that Sanders supporters come across as worse.

You guys have been Sanders' worst enemy.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[Live and Learn]

5. Really? You don't get out much do you?

Sanders brings excitement , Hillary brings, 'ugh'. Truth!!!

[randome]

9. Clinton brings 3 million more 'volts' of excitement.

She doesn't particularly appeal to me. But obviously the voters prefer her. Why not make the best of things instead of this continual lamenting about poor, downtrodden Sanders? Posts like this serve no purpose other than to highlight your tendency to whine, which is not at all commendable.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[Live and Learn]

10. Those aren't votes, the are misdirected energy farts from the uninformed.

It won't last and even if she wins, you lose in the end.

[w4rma]

11. Of course those votes don't include independent voters who were suppressed in closed primaries.

Nor do they take into account the populations of states represented by caucuses.

[randome]

14. Independents have no business deciding a Democratic Party nominee.

Neither should Republicans, Libertarians, Greenies, the American Independence Party or anyone else.

My advice to the complainers who think they are entitled to sit in the balcony and dictate the plot of the play is to join the party or shut the hell up.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[Waiting For Everyman]

19. Thank you, the "more votes" fiction.

We're all wise to that, as you said.

It's lame that they keep bringing it up. They keep embarrassing themselves every time they do it -- several times in just this thread!

It's just another Clinton deception along the lines of "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is".

[oberliner]

43. AL, AR, GA, IL, MS, MO, TN, VA, TX all had open primaries

Hillary won all of them, in some cases by huge margins.

[w4rma]

46. Except for the ties, those are great examples of low turnout primaries. (nt)

[oberliner]

47. OK - but she has won several open primaries

The post I was responding to seemed to be suggesting that she only won closed primaries.

[Kittycat]

82. You should take the ties out of there.

Especially MO. Bernie ended up winning that. And IL was a sham of problems. Lol

[oberliner]

101. Fair enough

Still seven states with open primaries that Hillary won by pretty solid margins.

[Dem2]

84. You mean being better and pissing people off, or at least trying to, doesn't help?

Whoda thunk?

[Lil Missy]

6. She stays in because she's winning.

What a dumb question.

[Live and Learn]

8. Winning? Like Charlie Sheen? She won't get the delegates, period.

Maybe she can get a cable channel to pretend she is President.

[synergie]

22. She's already got them, have you not been paying attention for the past few months?

Bernie is the one 'WINNING' a la sheen, where he loses on every metric, but somehow pretends he's somehow still winning, and gets to dictate things.

I'm sure that you Bernie supporters can all go to one of his several homes, gather on the lawn and let him pretend he's President and is negotiating with Mitch, by gesturing at your little group. It'll be fun.

You can all shout about how you're WINNING like Sheen! But I hear that VT has decided not to legalize anything, so you'll have to figure out other ways to keep the fantasy going.

[Live and Learn]

25. Dream on, Bernie supporters are quite grounded and aware and we won't be sitting idly by

like Hillary supporters are wont to do.

[synergie]

34. So you have no understandinng that your candidate is loing badly in pledgede delegates

and your attempts to actively harass and abuse SDs and Californians who have not yet voted by making their kids cry, stealing their signs and yelling obscenities at the disabled and the elderly is somehow going to get you pledged delegates? Or Super delegates or even votes?

Not seeing much evidence of grounded, or aware behavior, just a lot of yelling and screaming things that are simply not based in reality. It's because Hillary supporters have not been sitting idly by engaging in violence, harassment and abuse that we bothered to register, learn the rules and vote. It's why our candidate has won.

[Live and Learn]

37. WHOA, did you just accuse me of making kids cry and stealing signs? I believe you did.

Well, you are wrong as usual. Why would anyone ever believe a liar and slanderer like yourself?

[synergie]

40. As usual, your beliefs don't match what was written. Your fellow Bernie supporters did

indeed make kids cry and steal signs, but were you just being disingenuous? I believe you were!
Personally attacking me by twisting my words deliberately won't make those incidents caught on video go away, nor do they erase Bernie's endorsement of such heinous acts.

[Live and Learn]

44. See, that is the thing, I actually read what you posted and you said

"your attempts to actively harass and abuse SDs and Californians who have not yet voted by making their kids cry, stealing their signs and yelling obscenities at the disabled and the elderly is somehow going to get you pledged delegates"

which is slander and a lie, no matter how you try to frame it.

[pinebox]

86. I need to put that in my sig lol

Bernie supporters--"Making Hillary kids cry & stealing their signs!"

[Arkansas Granny]

60. Hillary's supporters aren't sitting idly by. They are going to the polls

and voting in large enough numbers to give their candidate the lead. Many of us have followed her career for decades. We are quite aware of who we are supporting.

[Live and Learn]

65. I'd be quite embarrassed to admit supporting a person that made as many 'little mistakes' as

she did since those little mistakes are responsible for so many deaths. You are probably better off sitting idly by.

[pinebox]

87. People showed up to vote for W too

[beachbum bob]

12. lol.....she has millions more votes than sanders and an insurmountable delegate lead

if that is a sign of people not liking her...I would like to be just unliked too

[synergie]

23. It's why Bernie is WINNING, the supers don't like him, he's lagging behind in

pledged delegates AND the popular vote! See, they just like Bernie so very much that they can't bring themselves to vote for him or endorse him!

[Live and Learn]

16. So you equate votes to likes? Speaking of fairy dust. nt

[Live and Learn]

20. Perhaps they don't know Bernie? Could it be the MSN media prefers a Hillary???

Oh, I know tin foil hat but the Clintons's privatization of everything couldn't have an impact, right?

[synergie]

28. Oh they know Bernie. The MSM has been feting him and failing to vet him for months.

It's why he and Jane have practically camped out at CNN, MSNBC and Fox, Jane loves Fox and Fox loves Jane! She pushes their talking points!

Perhaps they know Bernie and the lovely things his supporters have been doing all over social media and the yelling, the screaming and the making little kids cry as they yell obscenities and steal their signs? Sure, it's not like reality about what Bernie and Jane are, and the horrible things they say and how they approve of what their followers do, no matter how vile, might have had an impact right?

Or does the tin foil tune out all of that?

[Live and Learn]

32. Funny, I haven't seen any of that. But, I don't watch the Faux/Clinton channels. nt

[synergie]

36. Sure you haven't. As if you could tear yourself away from your anointed one and his

wife as they camped out on Faux and BSNBC where no one asks them any questions or pushes back on their outright lies!

Do those hats have visors that blind and deafen you from anything you don't wish to hear? It seems to be a running theme with you guys, even with the blocking of math.

[Live and Learn]

39. More slander? I hate to disappoint you but I don't view cable tv. I am not stupid enough to pay

those trying to warp my perceptions with actual dollars. And what I save by not using cable goes to Bernie. Win, win!! It is actually quite a bit of money. You should try it.

[synergie]

48. Yes you do seem to be engaging in more dishonesty and slander, it seems to be how

you deal with reality that you don't like. You prefer to warp your perceptions in other ways do you? Okay.

Ah, should you also cut out other things from your budget? I mean Bernie needs money badly, he's not very good at managing it and has terrible judgment, he needs as many people with altered perceptions of reality and who don't know math to send him all of their extra money.

No, thank you, I don't wish to join your religious organization or participate in you tithing scheme.

I would suggest you save a few dollars and buy yourself some books and practice the lost art of reading for comprehension, it might help cushion the outrage you feel when you twist things around either deliberately or through rusty reading skills.

Best of luck to you, I hope that you do not bankrupt yourself in your devotional dedication to your esteemed leader, it sounds like you're donating a bit more than you can afford if you think that a basic cable bill amounts to "quite a bit of money". I hope you have not given more than you should, it seems like you're cutting back on some necessities and it's starting to show in your emotional responses to things that are based in reality.

You should try exerting a bit of self control and learning how things like primaries and pledged delegates work. You might also learn what's going on in the world around you and what your fellow brotherhood of Bernie have been up to in recent days, the story hasn't been addressed on cable yet so that can't be your excuse.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. Wow. I doubt he recovers nor responds.

[NCTraveler]

15. I like her and she is in it because more people are showing up for her.

When it was the other way around, yet much closer, she had already thrown her support behind Obama at this point.

[chervilant]

21. Wowzer!

Eighteen responses and I can only see two! My IL is working so well! Thanks for your OP. Now, time to update.

[Live and Learn]

27. LOL. Glad to help. nt

[pdsimdars]

76. Now it's 75 and I can see 12

And here's my contribution (I got from twitter)

[laserhaas]

26. Polls! ...We don't need no stinking Polls

Loyal counters for the Queen

That's all we need

[center]
[¡]
N'est-ce pas![/¡][/center]

[Live and Learn]

30. She does have those. Whatever happened to public airwaves? Oh yeah, the Clintons.

[laserhaas]

33. Oligarchs have privilege

You know..the sort of privilege that makes Cooper and Maddow out to be what I thought they'd never be

Tools for the privileged

[Live and Learn]

35. Sad isn't it. And proof that power and money easily corrupt. Another reason Bernie is so incredible

since he seems to have a natural inoculation against corruption.

[laserhaas]

42. Yup...he's a breed apart

[Live and Learn]

45. That he is!! Feel the Bern!

[pdsimdars]

78. Another great one from twitter

.

[pdsimdars]

77. Dont' forget Stephanie Miller. She's even more obvious than the others.

[synergie]

38. Votes! We don't need no stinking votes, the annointed one shall be given the

presidency loyal Revolutionaries are all we need! Dissent in the streets! Make little boys cry and steal little girls signs! It's how Bernie is WINNING!

It's all about the polls and the REVOLUTION, who needs voters or delegates or pledged delegates or conventions? That's soooo establishment!


You guys are hilarious, keep up the comedy!

[Live and Learn]

41. That is Hillary's take which is why I take it you guys aren't out regisstering voters this election.

By the way, I would hardly call you a little boy.

[stonecutter357]

49. 48 replies, 342 views and 7 Durec's so looks like you are wrong.

[Live and Learn]

50. LOL You have a very simplistic view of life. nt

[stonecutter357]

54. that's rich comming from a birnie fanatic.

[Live and Learn]

58. A birnie fanatic? What is that and why are you making false accusations? nt

[stonecutter357]

68. Are you a Berniebro ?

[pinebox]

88. BernieBro? lol

[stonecutter357]

95. yes bernie bro's are despicable trash.

https://twitter.com/SAConScene/status/728388122304598016

[pinebox]

97. And Hillarians are disgusting.

Do you REALLY want to do this? We can.

[stonecutter357]

99. chicken , mashed potatoes and broccoli broccoli broccoli broccoli.

[pinebox]

100. Did you just invite me for dinner?

Thanks but my girlfriend and I are making homemade pizza this evening

[Arkansas Granny]

51. The polls that matter, i. e. the voting booth, suggest otherwise.

[tk2kewl]

52. but half of a third of the electorate voted for her

[joshcryer]

53. I thought we hated that the Presidential election was a likeablity contest?

We had it with Bush, we had it with Obama, we had it with Bill Clinton, Regan, etc.

[Trust Buster]

55. Then vote for Trump if you wish. No one here is stopping you from exercising your right to vote

for the guy. This is a site dedicated to the Denicratic Party. Can't you find a Trump site or do you like agitating your opponents ?

[Live and Learn]

59. More false accusations. Are these accusations a new Hillary directive? nt

[Trust Buster]

62. False accusations ? I think I accurately read the thread title.

[Live and Learn]

67. I don't think you did. nt

[Nyan]

56. It was the plan since 2008, when it was her turn and Obama took it away from her.

Debbie, the chair of the Coronation Committee, has been making sure that the plan follows through.

[mythology]

57. And yet in those pesky elections she has built an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates

Maybe the voters have mistakenly thought that voting for her was a way to register their displeasure or something.

[Live and Learn]

61. Unsurmountable? Nope.

[SidDithers]

66. 12 million voters to date = nobody...

must be more #berniemath

Sid

[Live and Learn]

69. If only we could trust those numbers, huh? nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. Because math.

[CrowCityDem]

72. Still has 3 million more votes. Wow, that must make Bernie the antichrist to be losing to her!

[GreenPartyVoter]

73. The FBI seems to like her.

[pdsimdars]

79. I don't think the feeling they have toward her is "like". . more like "interest"

[GreenPartyVoter]

91. True.

[Onlooker]

80. Election results show Bernie is liked even less n/t

[Broward]

81. Bush family donors and war-loving voters everywhere are really into her.

[COLGATE4]

83. Except the millions of people who voted for her over Bernie.

And the millions upon millions who will elect her President in November. But, other than those people you've probably got a point.

[pinebox]

89. Why is it that Hillary supporters

support someone who doesn't even support universal health care or a living wage? Seriously, Hillary is a permanently damaged candidate and I am not using that as a catch phrase but it gets tiresome dealing with people who can't face the facts about her. Look Hillary supporters, she has a lot of baggage, a LOT.

I would ask you all to examine your candidate and take a good hard look at her because I am thinking many of you truly haven't and are enamored with the love of having a first woman president.

The net negatives on Hillary aren't good. In fact, they are downright scary and if Bernie had so much baggage y'all would be screaming about it and I wouldn't be voting for him.

Think about it, why is Hillary changing her mind on virtually every single issue? Just in the last 48 hours she said NAFTA was good (wtf?) and in the last few days she changed her mind on coal and backtracked her remarks.

Every week it is something. We have a candidate who is courting Bush donors and has had wonderful things said about her from the Koch's. Do you "Dems" honestly want that? I bet I could Google search half of you and turn up threads posted from you about how much Bush sucks and the Koch's are the devil. So why are you supporting someone who is pretty darn close or is in allegiance with them?

Why do you support that? If you support Hillary then you must also support her points of view. The question is, #WhichHillary are you supporting because nobody seems to know where she truly stands.......

[Nyan]

94. It's called cult of personality where facts are irrelevant.

All the things you just mentioned don't matter.
It's an idiocracy in full display, and it's really painful to watch.

[MineralMan]

90. A 3.1 million vote advantage says just the opposite, though.

Votes trump polls, every time.

[GreenPartyVoter]

92. Some votes aren't counted and others just magically appear, so this argument doesn't mean squat.

Too bad we live in a country where elections are so corrupt and screwed up.

[BuelahWitch]

93. BOOM!

It's the truth!

[cwydro]

96. Sure are a lot of people voting for her.

Just sayin'.

[hrmjustin]

98. Your grace in defeat is a shining example to us all.

[Demsrule86]

102. Nice try

I guess they really dislike Bernie as millions more voted for Hillary but she will be the nominee while he goes back to Vermont.