Learn to lose gracefully.

[YouDig]

It's kinda sad watching the Bernie supporters lashing out as his campaign comes to a close.

So much of what Bernie campaigned on was worth talking about and preserving. But instead of that, all we hear about is gutter anti-Hillary smears, email conspiracy theories, threats to vote for Trump or third party, and so on. How about ending on a positive note, talking about Bernie's ideas, how to keep them going.

Here's a hint: the way to keep the Bernie revolution going is not by electing Trump.

[Trenzalore]

1. They haven't had a positive note to sing since February

When Bernie took the campaign negative. Why are they going to sing that tune now.

[Skink]

2. It ain't over till it's over

[griffi94]

31. Haha

Spot on.

[RoccoR5955]

43. Yeah.

Facing Manny Rivera after pitching in the first game of a double-header, down by 10 runs nobody out, with bases loaded.
Like Yogi said, "It ain't over till it's over."

[aikoaiko]

67. No one is making you stay and wait.

[Dem2]

3. Are you suggesting that pouting like a juvenile isn't the most productive use of a person's time?

[NorthCarolina]

4. Problem is, in a Clinton v Trump matchup

it's damn near impossible, if not completely impossible, to determine which is the official lesser of two evils.

[hrmjustin]

5. Oh please!

[YouDig]

7. That's an easy one. Clinton is a much better than Trump. Just ask Bernie if you're confused.

[NorthCarolina]

10. I did, but they told me they

support Bernie, so now what?

[YouDig]

20. Some did in the primary, but they still want Hillary to defeat Trump in the general.

[gollygee]

26. This is ridiculous. N/t

[kerry-is-my-prez]

65. Yeah, Ralph Nader said the same thing about Bush and Gore. Look how that turned out.

[Stuckinthebush]

86. The purists screwed the world

For their "integrity"

Nader is a dirty word in my house.

[SwampG8r]

88. 300000 registered florida democrats voted for bush

Think about that
No nader needed because the conservative democrats of florida were not ready to continue with what they saw as the clinton legacy candidate
Think about that
Florida.democrats will.either not show.up.or.vote gop to dump a clinton
I am a lifetime.floridian and she will lose florida.in a ge.

[uponit7771]

73. Such a privileged though

[Broward]

6. Thanks for the hint. Long live the oligarchy.

[inchhigh]

8. the most negative thing about the sanders

campaign is the Hillbots characterization of it. I think he readily admits that winning is a tough sled from here but nobody is conceding because nobody has lost yet. If he was ever going to win it was going to be improbably and at the very end. The game plan has been to keep it close and hope for a hail mary at the end. When the clock expires you can start talking about concession. Before that, it's just poor sportsmanship.

[YouDig]

14. The sports analogy is flawed. This is more like chess, where resigning when there are

no winning moves left is customary.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511896969

[inchhigh]

53. then at best you're hoping for a draw

Because she doesnt have any winning moves left either. Nobody is going to win on pledged delegates alone. By the end of July it will be clear that she is the weaker candidate and super delegates will reassess whether they want to stand behind a choice they made before Bernie even announced he was running or whether they want to back the stronger candidate and actually win in November. There are winning moves left. You know they are out there and you just cant see them.

[AgerolanAmerican]

12. There's no grace in rolling over

This rigged, fraud-ridden primary was an absolute disgrace from top to bottom.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

66. The caucuses are much worse. It disenfranchises voters and they are a mess.

[JonathanRackham]

13. Tortise and the hare.

The race isn't over.

[frustrated_lefty]

15. Do you know

that the Hillary-bots of today sound just like the idiots who insisted on Kerry in '04? Twenty years of hearing the same things from the same stupid people gets tiresome.

[YouDig]

17. For example, the term "Hillary-bot". What is that but being a sore loser?

[frustrated_lefty]

22. Locally,

the only people I know are voting for Clinton are doing so for vapid reasons. YMMV.

[YouDig]

23. I'm sure that's true but that's not representative. You think it is appropriate to

call Hillary supporters "bots"? Why is that?

[frustrated_lefty]

29. Because

entirely too many of them come off as mindless, rationalizing automatons divorced from reality? Not to be a jerk , but you asked.

[griffi94]

35. Hillary has an overwhelming number of delegates

so much so that Bernie can win the rest of the primaries and caucuses
and still not catch up.

Hillary also has millions more votes than Bernie.

And yet in your view those voters should get Bernie no matter what.

Bernies more robust supporters are fantasizing about a brokered convention
and superdelegates flipping, and as a last ditch effort to keep
the dream alive, a Hillary indictment.

But it's Hillarys supporters who are divorced from reality.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

68. "Rationalizing people who are divorced from reality?" Now who might that describe?

[frustrated_lefty]

98. Probably

somebody named kerry-is-my-prez?

[inchhigh]

59. Perhaps that term is inappropriate

Im trying to differentiate between the honest ans sincere Hillary supporters who truly align with her policies and the obvious knee-jerk supporters who want to keep playing the same old "talking points/winning the news cycle" game. That as much as anything is what the American peopke are rejecting in huge numbers. Trump is a moron and dangerous but people support him because they perceive that he doesnt play that game. He just says what he says. What he says is abhorrent but people dont hear the insanity behind his rhetoric, they just hear someone who doesnt sound like a polished and practiced salesman.

They support Bernie for that same sense of honest, straight talk. This election isn't a lefty/righty election. Its an innie/outie election and outie is going to win. I just want that to be our outie, not theirs.

[hrmjustin]

18. True and I remind myself to win gracefully.

Not easy to do on this board.

[YouDig]

21. Fascist, really?

[frustrated_lefty]

24. A neo-con/neo-lib at the very least.

A fascist in the pupal stage.

[GreatGazoo]

25. get yourself a calendar

[cali]

27. Lol. Learn to win gracefully and with some compassion.

I have never seen anything like the sore Hillary winners here. We Obama supporters in 2008, were far more gracious than Hillary supporters.are. Hillary supporter ugly as losers in 2008. They're even worse as winners this year.

Tacky then. Tacky now.

[YouDig]

28. Never anything like it? Haven't seen much then. Who's threatening voting third party?

[cali]

30. I've been here a long time. Just curious, did you support Hillary in 2008?

[YouDig]

34. Obama in 2008.

[CorkySt.Clair]

82. You've been posting that all week

It was bullshit on Monday and it's still bullshit on Saturday. Do try and find some new material. Your meme is stale.

[Amaril]

32. :::sigh::: I remember the good old days.......

......when "democrat" wasn't synonymous with "authoritarian".

When the nominee is officially selected -- you know, after everybody gets to vote like in a real democracy -- then you can put on your nanny hat & police the ranks to make sure everyone falls in line. Until then, free speech.

[pinebox]

33. Bernie supporters won't elect Trump

and they won't elect Hillary.

Our votes are our own and you want us to fall in line and vote for someone who fundamentally disagrees with us and what many of Bernie supporters stand for? Good luck with that. Millions won't. They will pencil Bernie in or vote Third Party.
What you don't understand is that many Bernie supporters see Hillary as a Republican from a bygone era....Bob Dole, Richard Lugar, whereas they see Trump from the modern age of Ted Cruz and Steve King.

A big bottle of NOPE.

[YouDig]

36. Those are the only choices: Hillary and Trump.

[pinebox]

37. No they actually aren't

but you can think that

[YouDig]

38. They will be in a month or so.

[pinebox]

39. Nope

My ballot has several people on it Most peoples will, too.
My vote is my own. I will vote who best represents me.

[YouDig]

40. What, Libertarian? Green? Those people can't win, all they can do is spoil.

It's a wasted vote, same as a non-vote.

[pinebox]

41. See you don't get it

I will vote who best represents ME and what I stand for and believe. It really is that simple.
I'm an indy liberal and I won't vote against my self interests.
Good day.

[YouDig]

42. Then explain. What use is throwing a vote away?

Do you disagree that Greens/Libertarians have no hope of winning? Then what's the point? Is there any room for reality in this ideology you have?

[pinebox]

49. You say I'd throw my vote away

but I wouldn't, I'd be voting for someone who best represents me. Will I go that way, who knows.
You can't expect people to vote for someone who they disagree with. Would you vote for Steve King if he ran? Of course you wouldn't. For many, it's the same exact scenario.

[YouDig]

51. A vote for anyone but H or T is a throwaway.

Do you really think anyone else can win? What's the point?

[pinebox]

53. No it actually isn't

And it isn't always about winning.
It's about integrity and honesty.

[YouDig]

55. Do you think a Green or Libertarian or write-in can possibly win?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

69. Do you not care about the Supreme Court?

[realmirage]

45. Then du will be saying bye bye to you soon

[pinebox]

48. Yes the guy with a Smurf account who JUST joined

is telling me DU will be saying bye bye to me while not realizing that DU has a socialist progressives group. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1024
Now what?

[realmirage]

50. Go ahead and advocate for a non democrat

when GDP is closed. Bye bye!

[realmirage]

56. In fact you could be banned for it now

What do you think- wanna try your luck?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

What now?

[zappaman]

71. Says the guy with 1 post for 3 1/2 years and then 4,358 in the last 6 months.

[realmirage]

96. And yet I'll still be here and your pal will be banned for

Abandoning the Democratic Party.

See you in July, or actually, not

[Contrary1]

95. !!!!

[RoccoR5955]

44. Yucch.

You owe me a new keyboard. I just puked all over mine.

[SMC22307]

94. Hillary and her merry band of Third Wayers want cuts to Social Security.

Hillary won't come out and say it, of course, she'll let surrogates like Mark Warner do it. I don't trust her with the social safety net, the social safety net that helps millions of Americans of ALL stripes. That distrust will factor into my vote. That distrust will factor into whether some even vote at all -- they might be just *that* disgusted by both candidates.

Wag your finger at me, and others, all you want... it has ZERO impact. Trust me (us) on that one.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

46. Hint: The way to keep the revolution going is to vote for progressives.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

72. And what happened to the Nader revolution, the McGovern revolution, the Mondale revolution?

Or from the right "The Perot revolution?" That's right, they all slipped into oblivion, never to be heard from again. I worked on the McGovern campaign btw.

If Bernie wants to lead a revolution then do it where it can really make a difference. Help get good progressive congress people in. Push Hillary to adopt a more progressive platform. He could really make a difference. I was very much into his message that he had about the 1% - he was a great speaker. I have to admit now that he has turned into "just another politician" who is out to win instead of the brilliant spokesperson that he used to be.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

84. Electing more centrists/conservatives just because of the label isn't working.

Dismissing their collaboration with the Republicans as "just politics" isn't working.

Will the revolution sink into oblivion? Maybe. But, if we don't resist the capitalists, America will.

[chervilant]

47. Bwahahahahaha!!!

Bernie has already "won" on so many levels -- not the least of which is earning the deep regard of millions of people worldwide.

Hi11ary will never have that.

(It ain't over til it's over, but you're going on my IL, so don't bother to reply.)

[ladjf]

57. No thanks for the etiquette lesson. nt

[Surya Gayatri]

58. Will they take the "hint"...?

Here's a hint: the way to keep the Bernie revolution going is not by electing Trump.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

74. Yeppers......

[CobaltBlue]

60. YouDig—For every war that a President Hillary Clinton would start … will you fight in any of them?

[YouDig]

61. Compared to Trump she's a pacifist.

[whatchamacallit]

62. Learn to win without fraud

[kerry-is-my-prez]

75. Learn to win in primary states as opposed to just caucus states. Caucuses are a joke.......

[kerry-is-my-prez]

63. Also the Supreme Court - we need to turn that blue. No more Scalias!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

64. Why doesn't Bernie help get some good Dems in congress? He can lead that way.

He has a good message. He will either slip into oblivion or become a caricature. He needs to put his energy into things he can accomplish and not look like poor loser.

[LWolf]

70. How about modeling what you are talking about,

and not starting OPs about supporters, rather than candidates?

Hypocrisy abounds.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

81. The Sanders supporters can make a difference too. They can help change this country by being

strategic. They can either go into to oblivion (like the Mcgovernites - of which I was one) and perhaps even caricatures and not make a difference or put their energy into something that is going to last and be taken seriously.

[LWolf]

97. I believe that we will make a difference,

and it will be a positive difference.

It may not be the difference you are hoping for; we happen to hope for something bigger and better.

[bkkyosemite]

76. It's kinda sad to see Hillary supporters biting at the bit for it to be over...Not over yet!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

85. It is screwing up the race! Making Hillary fight two races (against Sanders and Trump) and weakening

The Dem party. Bernie (and his supporters) could raise money for progressive candidates instead of wasting it on a fight he can never win. Right now he (and his supporters) have a choice: fight a fight you can win and really make a difference or keep putting energy into something that cannot be won and slip into oblivion, or worse, be relegated to the political graveyard like Mondale, McGovern, and Dukakis.

That is what made the Dem party go from being liberal to becoming centrist, by the way. This whole Sanders situation could be used for good or for naught. Bernie can become a hero or a zero.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

77. How about learning to win gracefully?

Sore winners who enjoy gloating are a whole lot more annoying than sore losers.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

87. Most of us are worried and not gloating. We need Bernies help and his supporters help.

[HooptieWagon]

78. No reason to quit at beginning of 4th quarter.

You Hillarians will just have to accept that Sanders is going to fight until the convention, give everybody the opportunity to vote, and earn as many delegates as he can.

[RazBerryBeret]

79. Pot calling the kettle black...

PUMAs.

[dchill]

80. You're already getting more grace than you deserve.

And no one has lost yet. If Hillary were to drop out now, we could smoothly move on to the general.

[RazBerryBeret]

83. Pretty Easy to Understand

Bernie said, from the beginning that he's taking it all the way to the convention.
All. The. Way. To. The. Convention.

that hasn't changed, he hasn't changed his view. what's the deal ?

[Phlem]

89. WTF!?

Rolling over for the Thirdway is sooooooooo NOT losing gracefully.

Voting them in for the Third time is losing epically!

[SMC22307]

90. No, that's not all you hear about.

Or maybe you do -- selective listening on your part.

And since we're lecturing DUers... stop lumping all supporters together as the same. Whether Sanders, Clinton or that fucking asshole Trump, supporters can be peaceful or frothing. Anyone who thinks supporters are all the same-- or believes the spin -- looks pretty damn dumb.

[QC]

91. Become the change you seek. n/t

[Codeine]

92. Ermaherd!!! Brngrzhi!!!!

They're reduced to reporting graphics lifted from Free Republic at this point.

It is to laugh.

[Vattel]

93. Hillary's campaign was too dirty to deserve respect now.