Bernie Sanders Says It's "Absolutely Appropriate" For Fans to Scream at Hillary Supporters

[Henhouse]

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Bernie Sanders Says It's "Absolutely Appropriate" For Fans to Scream at Hillary Supporters http://thedailybanter.com//2016/05/bernie-sanders-says-its-absolutely-appropriate-for-fans-to-scream-at-hillary-supporters/ …

Bernie Sanders fans forced Hillary Clinton to end a speech early this week, which Bernie is not a fan of, but when he was specifically asked if he was okay with his fans screaming at Hillary's supporters outside the event, as they also did this week, at children, his response was an emphatic "Absolutely. That's absolutely appropriate."

[demigoddess]

1. it is not appropriate

It is equivalent to saying that other people don't have the right to vote or campaign, or attend campaign events to hear a speech.

[dchill]

3. The operative words are "outside the event.."

If you don't know that, or choose to ignore it, then your criticism is moot. We call it "Freedom of speech" in America.

So, to be clear, Bernie condemns it inside the venue, approves it outside. So should we all.

[99th_Monkey]

9. Some Hillary fans apparently have forgotten about the First Amendment. nt

[Gomez163]

2. And rip up a little girls Hillary sign autographed by Hillary.

That was awesome.

Matt Bermudez ?@mattbermudezz
@Jamie4Hillary @nikroybal I saw a guy rip apart a sign from a little girl's hand that said "We love you Madam Prez!" HRC had signed it too💔
2:25 AM - 6 May 2016

[dchill]

4. Bernie did that?

Wow! What a POS he is. Right?

[Gomez163]

5. Yeah. That's what I said. Nice try to deflect. Won't work.

[dchill]

8. And YOU copy/pasted a TWEET!

Clearly you have the moral high ground here!

[Gomez163]

10. Deal with the issue. The protestors ripped up a little girl's sign.

They should be ashamed of themselves. And you should be for defending them. Proud of yourself???

[dchill]

14. I do not defend it.

Neither does Bernie, which is the point.

Don't be a jerk!

[Gomez163]

17. Bernie had no problem with the protestors. Called it free speech

And yes you are defending them. I have yet to hear you denounce them. And stop with the name calling or I will hit the alert button.

[azurnoir]

23. Hillary has a way with autograph seekers - go to the back of the line

Condescending Hillary Clinton tells autograph-seeker to 'go to the back of the line' on campaign trail

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[Gomez163]

25. That has nothing to do with this. What is it with you people?

[azurnoir]

32. you ignored my request for video of Bernie supporter tearing Hillary's autograph from a child's hand

and "you people" ?

[Gomez163]

41. It was an eyewitness account, not a video. I believe it.

Because I see the same things on this site every day.

[Bjorn Against]

50. Really? You see Bernie supporters ripping little girl's signs on this site?

Link please.

Oh and by the way, "eye witness accounts" that appear on Twitter are often false.

[Gomez163]

54. I see the same thuggish behavior here. Thank god that man will never be in power.

[Bjorn Against]

59. So no link, you just suggest Bernie supporters on DU are tearing up kid's signs every day

Neither you nor the random tweet from the Hillary supporter you seem to believe is evidence are credible.

[Gomez163]

60. This from people that cant add and subtract doesnt impress me.

[Bjorn Against]

65. Are you telling me I can't add or subtract?

Either provide a link to prove my math skills are bad or stop with the unfounded personal insults.

[Gomez163]

67. If you still think Bernie has a chance you either have poor math skills or you aren't being honest.

[Bjorn Against]

69. Where did I say Bernie still has a chance at the nomination?

I did not say that, just because I don't think he is not going to win does not mean I can't support him.

Before you launch unfounded personal attacks maybe you should learn what a person's thoughts are before you attack them for something they never said.

[Gomez163]

70. I have yet to encounter a Bernie supporter here who doesnt still think he can win.

And especially is hoping Hillary gets indicted. Not one.

[Bjorn Against]

73. Well that shows how little credibility you have

You just responded to my post in which I admitted I don't think Bernie can win by saying there is not one Bernie poster on this site that does not think Bernie will win.

And you accused me of having bad math?

Here is a math lesson for you: When one person says something to you there is at least one who said it. There are other Bernie supporters who have said it as well, but my post alone is enough to prove you wrong.

[riderinthestorm]

91. I'm on record as saying I hope nothing's found by the FBI in the investigation

And there's also numerous posts by me where I've said Hillary will be the nominee but Bernie should stay in to get his message out for as long as he can.

There are many of us who believe the same. If you haven't ever encountered one of us before I'd say you're being willfully blind. One of the most prolific Bernie supporting long time posters feels similarly (cali).

[azurnoir]

62. It was a tweet that claimed this happened - anyone can claim anything

[dchill]

26. Read the fucking OP. Watch the interview. Both Bernie AND Rachel...

specified "outside the event." That's all that's being questioned, by you. And it is MIST CERTAINLY free speech. OUTSIDE THE EVENT. And just to be clear, Bernie does not need to be defended, and I do NOT need to denounce anybody.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

35. If you don't do it someone else will.....

I don't usually hit the alert button but would rather warn someone and give them a chance to simmer down. Others may not be so generous though.....

Plus I might have to serve on a jury. I spend more time on juries than on reading stuff or posting here.

[CoffeeCat]

53. I have no problem with the protesters. Since when do we have problems with protesting?

What is going on here???

I don't get this Clinton faux outrage schtick over protesters? Yes, protesters yell. They scream. They hold up signs. Sometimes they even chant...loudly.

Surely, you don't hold the entire, massive group of anti-Hillary protesters--accountable for one bad apple?

I'm not getting this at all.

[azurnoir]

21. Video of Bernie supporters ripping Hillary's autograph .from child's hand?

[Bjorn Against]

29. Really? Can you provide proof to backup that allegation?

And no, a Tweet from a random Hillary supporter who provided no evidence is not proof.

[99Forever]

16. Ermahgerd!

Yoos been tweeted shamed!

Inhuman.

Will the horrors never cease?

:lol:

[itsrobert]

6. What about "absolutely appropriate" you do not understand? n/t

n/t

[dchill]

11. Are you talking to me?

Because I merely pointed out that Bernie said it was appropriate "outside the event." If you have a problem with that, go cry to Brock.

[itsrobert]

28. Sure.

Good Day, Bernie Supporter.

[deerheadgal]

7. Right!

[grossproffit]

13. That's pure evil.

[CentralCoaster]

18. It is child abuse to indoctrinate young children into political shittery. eom

[Gomez163]

24. I have no problem having a little girl look up to a role model like Hillary.

Go ahead. Be the ogre on the other side of that.

[Kittycat]

36. Go ahead and post evidence, not a random tweet.

Protesting outside is a first Ammendment Right. I support the first Ammendment, don't you?

[Gomez163]

39. Ripping up a little girl's sign is free speech???

[Kittycat]

44. Evidence please.

Of course I support the free speech. Don't you? What you're describing isn't, and not what Bernie was discussing or any of us. But since you brought it up, please post the picture or video. Waiting.

[Gomez163]

45. I posted an eyewitness account. You better hope there isn't a video.

https://twitter.com/search?q=hillary%20girl%20sign&src=typd

[Kittycat]

52. "You better hope" wow, you sound like you are threatening me

Why? Because I support free speech, and you won't state whether you do or not? I haven't seen anyone here say they support what you are claiming about a random tweet by a random HRC supporter with not even a picture of the incident or sign in question. Maybe Brock can produce one for you. It won't change my position on supporting the right of anyone to protest. That has nothing to do with protesting. Separate issue.

[Bjorn Against]

46. I still have yet to see anyone provide any actual evidence that a sign was ripped

Do you have any evidence aside from a random tweet from a Hillary supporter?

[NurseJackie]

27. How very brave of him! (I wonder ... legally speaking, could that be considered ASSAULT?)

But, legal definitions aside, I definitely see it as CHILD ABUSE.

[amborin]

12. this is the David Brock daily meme

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Does the first amendment only allow courteous discourse?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

19. I've never seen this before - where supporters of one Dem candidate heckle another candidate.

Especially the presumptive nominee.

[itsrobert]

30. Just a bunch of punks not reflective of the Bernie campaign

But they condone it.

[KPN]

20. That's a bunch of baloney. Bernie didn't say that ...

he did support people's right to protest outside an event held by any candidate. Big difference!

I'm so fucking sick of this mass smear campaign that has gone on against Bernie from the get go -- just because he isn't part of the establishment system that has fucked the average American over for the past 35+ yuears and wants to continue to have its way with that!. Fuck em I say!

[Bjorn Against]

22. Political protest is absolutely appropriate

Protest is a long established right under the first amendment. The fact that you characterize peaceful protest as "screaming at people" says more about you than it does about Bernie.

[itsrobert]

34. Heckling another campaign in the same party

Is a republican tactic. it's not what Democrats do.

[Kittycat]

42. Actually, protesting is what real democrats are great at

Especially calling BS on fake democrats who support fracking, wars, bad trade, etc. but most importantly, if you're going to call foul on anyone exercisizing their right to free speech by protesting outside of an event - well, that's about the most anti-democratic thing I've heard yet.

[Bjorn Against]

43. So I guess the 1968 DNC protests in Chicago never happened?

Sorry but there is a long history of protest in this country and people have the right to exercise free speech. People have the right to protest any political figure they feel is deserving of protest, Hillary is not in some special position that protects her from having to hear from people who disagree with her.

[itsrobert]

57. "hear" not heckle the disabled and children.

Of course you are okay with that.

[Bjorn Against]

63. No I am not OK with heckling the disabled or children

Nor am I OK with Hillary supporters lying and saying that Bernie supporters were heckling children or the disabled without proof.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

81. But ok with burly groups of men heckling women - a lone woman.

[Bjorn Against]

86. Where the hell did you get that out of what I said?

If you are going to accuse me of such a vile thing prove it, link to where I said anything about a group of burly men heckling a lone woman. If you can't provide a link then stop with the disgusting smears.

[Lucinda]

68. Clearly you haven't seen the video of what happened.

Or maybe you have, and condone it. Either way, it wasn't peaceful protest, it was harassment and bullying.

[Bjorn Against]

72. I did not see any video of Bernie supporters harassing anyone

If you are referring to the video of the child crying I did watch that, but I did not see a single protester direct their protest at that child. Children get frightened easily and they do cry, that does not mean that Bernie supporters intentionally targeted a child.

[workinclasszero]

31. Screaming mobs yelling F*CK YOU! at children

Whats next after that Bernie?

Are you up for the next level????

[MattP]

33. That was not peacful

And now to say they were not Bernie protesters when the had Bernie shirts and release the transcripts signs because youre shamed, just sad.

[itsrobert]

37. Yup, they are going to say it was union thugs dress as Bernie supporters

The same thing republicans say when they are in the wrong. "It's a conspiracy."

[Henhouse]

40. K&R

[Henhouse]

38. Really bad optics for the Sander's campaign...Screaming at children, old people, the disabled..nt

[Duckhunter935]

48. How do you know they were Bernie supporters?

[workinclasszero]

64. Because they were also screaming BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE!

Kind of a dead giveaway don't you think?

[Henhouse]

74. I give up...These Deadenders are only hurting Sander's by defending these protesters.

At least the deniers do not appear to support the protester's behavior. Hopefully Sen. Sander's will come out and clarify his remarks supporting the "outside the event" protesters.

[uponit7771]

83. Nope!! They were screaming Birdie !! Birdie !! Birdie !! /sarcasm

[Duckhunter935]

47. Actually I think you are not correct

He said it was perfectly appropriate to protest outside the event and not interupt the candidate. I am sure you were just as vocal when BLM forcible interupted and took his mike from him right. It is never a goog tbing to get physical or uncivil for either side. I also beleive most were not Bernie supporters and were against her immigration stance of deporting children. I never saw one Bernie sign or shirt.

[Skwmom]

49. He said it was appropriate for people to protest OUTSIDE an event. It is called democracy and

exercising your First Amendment rights.

[Eric J in MN]

90. +1 (NT)

NT

[SheenaR]

51. Yes

And those colonists throwing Tea in the harbor were just abhorrent. And those suffragettes causing public disturbances were just a nuisance.

Protest, both silent and loud is a right. Great change has never occurred with manners and polite behavior. Unpopular speech is still protected and encouraged. These people can do whatever they want peacefully.

[Dem2]

55. No he didn't

He was OK with protests outside of events, but surely not the screaming at kids variety.

Don't be silly, this isn't helpful.

[Gomez163]

58. I have yet to see the kinder gentler Bernie we've all been promised.

I actually don't believe he will ever endorse Hillary. I suspect he will instead either sit out or form a third party.

[Dem2]

78. I disagree

I think he will be fine once it's been proven to his supporters that he did all he could to secure the nomination.

[Henhouse]

75. I hope you are right. Maybe he will clean up his remarks from last night...

As of now.... These protesters have Sander's seal of approval....

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

56. The first amendment only protects courteous discourse. Hand kissing is optional.

[puffy socks]

61. The stench of hypocrisy.

“I believe from the bottom of my heart that it is vitally important for those us who hold different views to be able to engage in a civil discourse,” Sanders said. “It is easy to go out and talk to people who agree with you … It is is harder, but not less important, to try to communicate with those who do not agree with us on every issue.” Bernie Sanders



Yeah sure you do.

[Bobbie Jo]

66. Yeah, that sounds about right. nt

[Protalker]

71. Bernie, Run Bernie Run

Bernie is still in it to win it. I trust he will support the ticket. I will. I hope he will not do a Nader and pave the way for Trump.

[wendylaroux]

76. LOL!!! again? oh my

[glowing]

77. LOL- that's not what he said.. He said protest is protected by the 1st amendment and is more than

appropriate for people in America to utilize. Now, he did say, no one should interrupt inside because its rude, but again, it's still people's right to do this if they wish. How many interruptions over the years did CodePink become thrown out of for interrupting politicians? As long as it's non-violent, then its a right that should be utilized much, much more often.. AND believe me, if Hillary is the President, she will have Republicans on one side that are upset, progressives on another, and then maybe a handful of supporters.. LOL. It's going to be a rocky 4-8 yrs.. God I wish I was younger, not married, and with no children, I'd be abroad in a heartbeat.

[RichVRichV]

79. I assume you also condemn the BLM protests?

After all, those were inside the venues and have had some rather heated words.

[Henhouse]

80. I haven't condemned any protests....

I think the protesters making children cry and blasting disabled people and an elderly african american women in the face as she was trying to leave the HRC rally makes Bernie supporters look like monsters.

But hey, that is just my opinion....and if the media play the videos that I've seen today of the events on a loop...it will probably be the opinion of a lot of voters.

[uponit7771]

85. They didn't scream at little girls and disabled people, false equivalence

[Henhouse]

88. I never said they scream at little girls. I said they made a child cry...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511918333
https://twitter.com/SAConScene/status/728388122304598016

[MoonRiver]

82. Psycho

[Metric System]

87. Sanders has contributed to the heated rhetoric and political environment to a lesser extent than

Trump.

[Eric J in MN]

89. Sanders said people have the right to protest.

He didn't approve of any rude behavior.

[xloadiex]

92. I'm not a "fan" I'm a strong supporter

Condescending bullshit.