2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA question:
Why do so many people consider Hillary a "hawk"? Is it all about her vote for the AUMF, for which she's already apologized?
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)jazzimov
(1,456 posts)Do you have a link?
Long story short:
Multinational oil and banking institutions wanted control of Libya's resources.
Libya would not play ball on this.
Bombing ensued.
Politicians thought it would be easy.
They were wrong.
Now the country is in ruins
So Iraq basically.
jazzimov
(1,456 posts)anything based on fact and not opinion?
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)The Times researched the story extensively and is in fact quite merciful to Clinton in the narrative(look at who owns it). Other organizations have been much more critical.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)Just a fucking attitude. You are behaving like a jerk.
onecaliberal
(32,811 posts)Selling arms. Her foreign policy is intervention not peace.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)jazzimov
(1,456 posts)has sold any arms?
Or that her foreign policy is intervention?
Link?
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)jazzimov
(1,456 posts)which says that the donations were made before Hillary was SoS, and that the deals made were brokered by the Pentagon and Hillary's job was only to vet the sales.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)We know what happened and you do to.
egalitegirl
(362 posts)She is part of the Military Industrial Complex. Her husband took the country to war against Yugoslavia and Madeleine Albright approved the deaths of 500,000 children in Iraq saying the price was worth it.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)There are some that will swallow any criticism of Clinton whole without trying to find out where it's been.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)On the floor of the Senate, she foolishly pushed all of Bush's bullshit talking points. On the eve of the war, she did not speak out against Bush's illegal ultimatum to Hussein. She implicitly endorsed it.
She pushed Obama for an even bigger troop increase in Afghanistan than he ultimately authorized.
She pushed Obama to pursue violent regime change in Libya.
She refused to recognize that Israel's bombing of Gaza was disproportionate.
She voted against legislation to ban cluster bombs.
She has rattled her sabre towards Iran for years.
She sees Kissinger as a friend.
She supports a no fly zone in Syria and is apparently willing to thereby risk military engagement with Russia.
She supported violent regime change in Syria, urging Obama to arm Syrian rebels.
Etc.
vintx
(1,748 posts)It disturbs me that democratic voters don't already know this but the fact that they don't explains a lot.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Most voters are unaware of such facts, but also Clinton and her campaign have distorted her record. They have also distorted Bernie's record in an attempt to make him seem just as hawkish as her.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Was it in the form of, "I'm sorry for being bamboozled by Bush."?
Or was it, "I'm sorry for letting my political ambitions get in the way of my humanity."?
Or was it, "We came, we saw, he died."?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I've seen this episode before, it's a rerun ... but it's always good for a laugh or two.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Disgusting.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Bzzz bzz. BZZZ-BZZZZZZT!
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)can't swat away the thousands of war dead, maimed, displaced, etc.
Hillary's vote is on her, not Republicans trying to make Democrats look bad. She either believed in the invasion, or was duped by W.
OWN IT.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)What else ya got?
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)did one illegally when he sold 500K worth of ARMS while Hillary was at 'STATE', a big fucking no no, conflict of interest that surely Bill was aware of. Did he give the money up? If this were you or I, we would be charged accordingly. I'm so sick of them all over again, the Clintons.