They get their fervor from how Bernie has been running his campaign

[fun n serious]

Bernie's action and behavior sends messages to his supporters. We have always known they are very much alike.. Bernie and Trump supporters... Be PROUD.. Go ahead! You best believe this is a huge turn off and it will make people be in disgust of you.

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/05/sanders-shout-obscenities-clinton-rally/

[SFnomad]

1. A fever? That would explain their delusions ... oh, you said fervor

I think fever explains it better.

[randome]

2. Snap! Obviously teamwork and objectivity are no longer valued.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[SFnomad]

3. Where have you seen teamwork from the BS cheerleaders around here?

Sadly, that has been in very short supply.

[randome]

48. That's what I meant. They want to sit in the balcony and dictate the plot of the opera.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[fun n serious]

5. A leader sets the tone..

He drives the hatred of his supporters. This is who he is. Authoritarian zealots. They believe they know more and think they are the suburb who know more than anyone else.. they think if we do not support their ideas we must be ignorant. They think it's OK to force their believes by any means including violence because.. They're right.

This is their PURIST mentality. They're wrong. and I want no part of their false righteousness

[SFnomad]

6. Agreed .. and so far, Secretary Clinton has run the most positive campaign out there

The BS campaign was mostly positive until recently. Unfortunately, once the campaign really moves to the General Election, I see the Clinton campaign won't have much choice than to fight fire with fire. If tRump's primary campaign is any guide, it's going to get ugly fast.

[fun n serious]

7. If you study his past campaigns..

How he votes and opposes very good ideas because they are NOT pure enough even if it would lead us to a better direction. No change is better than some change to Bernie, even if it sets progressives back. If you read about how Jane treated people at the college she managed.. The retaliation that occurred when people disagreed.. It's all signs of who they are.

[AgingAmerican]

39. 100% llies

Spewed in the form of hatred

[AgingAmerican]

38. So Sanders is driving hatred?

Um, you are spewing hatred.

[nolawarlock]

45. Maybe it's like that now discarded theory about the Salem Witch Trials ...

... Ergot poisoning? LOL

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. You might be on to something.

But one contingent is worse and and that's the contingent that is trying to get members of the same group to fight one another.

[fun n serious]

9. Yes. Barack Obama is a good president

but NOT good enough to them. They're willing ( some of them) to not vote and allow a Trump prsidency just because they did not get 100 % their way.. As id TRUMP will bring them more than the status quo..

I happen to be super happy with *GASP* " the status quo.

[msongs]

8. the demogogue from vermont, perched in his high oligarch estate, giving orders to protest

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. He was defending the first amendment. How dangerous is that?

[fun n serious]

11. Getting violent with a 7 year old is child abuse

It's verbal abuse of a 7 year old. Defend it! Go ahead. If he keep it up Bernie will have no respect for anyone.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Violent? As in Assault and Battery? Was he/she arrested?

[fun n serious]

15. VERBAL violence

it has a long effect on children. YOU think it's ok to yell FUCK you at a child? Rip up her sign? What are the long term affects that child will have to deal with?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. I don't know what effects might be. Do you?

I yelled, "Fuck you, Pig" at anti-war demo in 1967.

Do I know how it affected the poor cop 50 years later?

[fun n serious]

25. To a 7 year old? nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. So, how do you know the possible effects?

Lot's of kids get yelled at. Lots of kids cry when they're yelled at. Do they all suffer "long term effects"? And, what are the effects?

Do they end up regarding it as something that wrecked their lives?

Do they find it an exciting incident?

Do they brag about it?

"There is no safety in the cosmos." Alan Watts

[fun n serious]

30. Are you saying it's OK?

OWN it. That is who you are apparently. Many child psychologist will tell you this is child abuse. You, Tierra_y_Libertad.. Think it's ok
that tells me you do NOT care how a 7 year old is abused as long as Bernie camp is doing it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. Oh, spare me.

Children respond in different ways to all sorts of things. What the effects of any experience is on anyone is as varied as the people who experience them.

A child may be stung by a bee and be terrified of insects for the rest of his life. Or, maybe not.

A child may discover that he/she was adopted at any early age and never told until he/she is 7. He may be embittered for the rest of his/her life. Or, maybe not.

In this particular childs case, I have no idea of the response. Neither do you.

As for screaming obscenities at a child, or threatening one, for any reason, I'm against it.

I'm also against killing children. See Hillary's IWR vote for reference.

[AgingAmerican]

40. Except it never happened

Hillary supporters are lying

[passiveporcupine]

19. This must be a new Brock meme already

because the board is filing up with this shit already.

Victims are not victims when they are as nasty to Bernie and his supporters as your side has been. They are just cry babies.

[fun n serious]

21. Show me

where a Hillary supporter went to a Bernie event and ripped up a child sign and yelled vulgarities at a child. SHOW ME.

[Kittycat]

32. Show me a Bernie supporter tearing up a 7yo's sign

I have asked for this repeatedly, and have no been given a single picture or video in this selfie era. They're even showing protestors upset and trying to raise awareness of Clinton's involvement in Honduras and other Latin issues as Bernie campaign supporters.

[AgingAmerican]

41. Show us where a Bernie supporter did it?

Video? Pictures? Anything?

[nolawarlock]

46. That will be the takeaway from this ...

... and it doesn't seem like anyone here in his camp has the PR savvy to understand that.

"No justice, no peace"

is a much better takeaway than

"fuck you, little girl."

[SFnomad]

13. You realize this has NOTHING to do with the 1st Amendment, don't you? n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. Really? Do tell.

[SFnomad]

27. Do you even understand what the 1st Amendment protects? and from whom? n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

31. It's pretty clear cut.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petitition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What don't you understand?

[SFnomad]

34. Yes, it is clearcut ...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It has NOTHING to do with people telling other people that their protesting has gone too far. When Congress tries to stop BS cheerleaders from protesting, come get me, because I will not stand for that either. But until then, this is NOT a 1st Amendment issue.

Freedom of Speech does NOT mean Freedom from Consequences or Freedom from Criticism.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. Congreass and the supreme court have made numerous decisions on free speech.

I have no problem with decrying other peoples protests as going too far. In fact, I think the one referred to did go too far.

But, Bernie was defending the right of the people to exercise their free speech, however distasteful, and their right to assemble.

What were the 'consequences" of the demonstration. Arrests? Convictions? Imprisonment?

I spent some time at demonstrations in the '60s and '70s and, yes, at times we did go "too far". At least in the eyes of the authorities.

[SFnomad]

44. Nothing you have said makes what has recently happend a 1st Amendment issue n/t

[TimPlo]

37. Tierra_y_Libertad

I asking you cause other poster seems rather made at you. Are you person who that poster is talking about yelling at a 7 year old? If not why is he posting for you to own it? Do you work for Sanders campaign and he is blaming you some how for some random guy in a crowd who could be anyone dressed in a specific shirt? Or are you some appointed person that is suppose to apologize for all this other Sanders supporters do?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

43. I'm not apologizing for the idiot that yelled at the kid. I'm trying to point out that free speech

is a basic guarantee in the constitution open to all citizens no matter how vulgar, intemperate, or shocking, it may be.

Obviously, opinions differ.

[TimPlo]

47. Oh I understand I was not asking you too

I was just wondering why that other poster was so hostile towards you over it and felt you in his words "own it" I thought maybe you where some how involved in it or something. So it was just him try to play like some white knight saving that poor 7 year old's honor against mean people who don't "own it"

[QC]

14. The person with 19 hides is shocked by rude behavior!

Okey doke.

[fun n serious]

16. That's all you have?

I am going to call out child abuse when I see it like it or not.

[frylock]

28. Now it's child abuse.

Get a fucking grip.

[passiveporcupine]

17. You have 19 hides on your transparency page

You are in no position to talk about anyone else's actions.

But then when Hillary people do it, it's OK.

[fun n serious]

18. Yes I am

I can and will. IF you do NOT agree with me.. Go ahead and OWN that behavior. That is your right.

[passiveporcupine]

20. Oh you certainly have the RIGHT to voice it

But it's making you look pretty silly.

I don't know how I missed you. I've been putting all of you yellow button people on ignore and you are one of the worst offenders.

Now you are on ignore.

[fun n serious]

22. It makes Bernie look discusting

Not me. He and his wife have encouraged this behavior for a long time.

[Kittycat]

33. I didn't see Bernie there. Did you?

That's a new one.

[frylock]

26. *yawn*

Moar issues kplzthx.

[Broward]

35. You're supporting a pro-war, immoral pol. I'm sure plenty are disgusted with you.