My newsfeed on FB is showing many OPs about Bernie possibly being HRC's VP. What do

[monmouth4]

you all think of it? I'm in the digesting the idea mode at this point but it isn't exactly awful..Many benefits to both going into the GE...

[Ash_F]

1. They are too far apart on policy

Mainly the money in politics thing, which affects every other policy.

[hlthe2b]

4. I don't think it would happen either, but re: the policy differences--just consider LBJ and Kennedy

pragmatism does occasionally win out in elections...

[oberliner]

31. That's definitely not true

They agree on pretty much everything policy-wise. Certainly moreso than Gore-Lieberman.

[Ash_F]

38. That's like, your opinion man.

[Lucinda]

60. No, it's fact. They differ on how to solve the problems, not the problems themselves. n/t

[Lucinda]

61. Agreed. They do. Still don't want him as VP, but their issues are not policy related.

Just what to do about them.

[MFM008]

45. So are many running mates

Kennedy/Johnson for example, they hated each other. You dont always get what you want.

[SecularMotion]

2. It won't happen.

Hillary will choose a Democrat.

[-none]

9. It won't happen.

Hillary will choose another 3rd Way corporatist, instead of a real Democrat.
A real Democrat is for the people, not Wall Street and corporations

[TransitJohn]

11. It's more likely she triangulates and picks a 'moderate' Republican, to try to siphon Trump votes

Sort of like Gore did with his shitty pick of Lieberman.

[Kittycat]

15. 9 or 11 for the loss or negligent reshaping of our party

[oberliner]

63. No, it's not

That's definitely not going to happen.

[TransitJohn]

65. I'm just so disappointed anymore, nothing would surprise me.

[TDale313]

25. Bernie's a Dem, but yeah, not gonna happen.

She'll want someone more establishment and he will not want to be muzzled. I know she would like his supporters, but they're transferable and many of his supporters wouldn't really want him on the ticket. I see little up side for either.

[oberliner]

64. No, he's not

He is an independent, running for the Democratic nomination for president.

[Vattel]

3. not a serious possibility

[brewens]

5. Not a chance. I can't imagine what Bernie's demands would be. I can't imagine him being the

usual VP. If it was me as Bernie, I'd demand to have veto power on all appointments for starters. No more revolving door.

[itsrobert]

6. Bernie is not qualified

His only international experience is flying to Rome for a political stunt.

[Broward]

23. If Bernie never gave one thought to anything beyond our borders,

he'd still be more qualified than a bloodthirsty, war-hungry Hillary.

[Thinkingabout]

52. And yet Sanders has voted for military action more times than Hillary, so he is

The blood thirsty, war hungry Bernie.

[Broward]

54. You remind me very much of your candidate and not in a good way.

[Thinkingabout]

66. I don't mind being like Hillary and accepting reality of Sanders record would be good.

I am not criticizing Sanders for his military votes but get the talking points correct, maybe not pointing out Hillary is for military action and Sanders has been for more Military action.

[Broward]

75. You also remind me of GWB supporters.

[Thinkingabout]

79. You seen to know lots about GWB supporters, are you one?

[Broward]

80. Nah, I just used to debate them back in the day.

You are eerily similar to many of them.

[Thinkingabout]

83. Just have joined their thinking, good luck.

Cognitive dissonance happens.

[tabasco]

76. Whereas Clinton's foreign policy experience is all fuck ups.

I'll choose a guy who voted against the Iraq War over a hack who hasn't done anything except fuck up.

Iraq - knew it was a bunch of bullshit but voted for it anyway.
Libya - what Obama said was the biggest fuck-up of his presidency.
Fucked-up trade deals - who fucking knows? Says one thing and does another. Probably will support them and hurt American workers.

[Metric System]

7. No. Although I'm on board for Elizabeth Warren.

[Rebkeh]

8. I hope they don't do this, it wouldn't be very productive

Neither one of them would be good a good VP, for starters, but there's also the fact that they are better suited to contribute elsewhere in government. They can do more good from a different role.

[SFnomad]

10. This probably wouldn't be a good idea ... too much mess from the BS cheerleaders heads exploding n/t

[KoKo]

12. David Brock and his Group's "Disinformation Action Team"...

I saw the interview with Bernie on this when Blitzer asks Bernie the question. It was obvious that Bernie was determined to keep to his message and not follow Blitzer's trying to sidetrack him with idiot questions. Bernie ignored the question which when dealing with Blitzer was the correct thing to do.

It's just David Brock's group trying to throw out more disinformation.

[pdsimdars]

13. Crazy talk

[djean111]

14. I think it is deliberate misinformation designed to get us to relax about the rest of the primaries.

Plus - what a waste of Bernie that would be! Dinners and funerals. IMO, he would be lucky to get security briefings. And no, she is already sprinting to the right.

IMO this is just a cynical rumor, pandering to Bernie's supporters.

[Codeine]

16. Every primary somebody advocates for a Unity Ticket.

Nobody ever does it because it's a monumentally stupid idea on it's face.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. No. He's a prorgressive not a yes man doing the bidding of a Centrist.

[fun n serious]

18. Bernie is NOT qualified to be VP

simple as that. NO way

[rickford66]

27. Quayle, Ryan, Cheney ??

It won't happen but he's certainly more qualified than these doofuses.

[itsrobert]

91. You got a point

n/t

[seabeyond]

19. Democrats learned, Sanders cannot be a part of the party. He is about tearing them down, ....

[99Forever]

22. ...

Since you asked for it.

Wouldn't want to disappoint.

[TDale313]

32. You are wrong. He's about reforming the party, not tearing it down.

And IMO, and those of many others, it desperately, desperately needs to change.

Party loyalty is good, but if the Party's not serving the needs of a large chunk of its voters that's a major problem.

I am a Dem- always have been. I am sorely disappointed with where the party is particularly on economic issues and money in politics. I think in many ways they've sold middle class and poor voters down the river.

[seabeyond]

39. It is not Sanders party to reform. He has done nothing for the Democratic party but

diss it all his life. He does not get to walk in and "reform" shit.

[TDale313]

41. He's caucused with them for years.

And it is my party to criticize and reform- and a good chunk of the party agree with where he'd like to see it head. Nearly half is a safe figure.

I'm so over the "he's not one of us" stuff. The other otherizing of Sanders, the belittling and otherizing his supporters. We are not a small fringe. We're not the barbarians at the gate trying to destroy the party. We are a major part of the party- one they've been actively working against for decades.

[seabeyond]

42. He caucused, benefited and has not done a single thing to invest in the party, ... all his life.

[TDale313]

46. Nope. Wrong. n/t

[seabeyond]

53. He caucused with Democrats, correct. He benefited doing that, correct. He has attacked Democrats

whole career. Correct.

I do not get where any of that is wrong, pretty basic. But, TDale. You are still a fav of mine.

[TDale313]

87. You're one of mine, too. Truly.

We're obviously not gonna agree on whether he's been a positive force in the party. Caucusing with them helped them too. He has supported Dems over the years- and he has called the party out where he felt it needed to be. To me he has benefitted the party. I get others don't agree, and that's fine. I don't like arguing with you, truly.

I want to say one more thing though. This is really not about Bernie for many of us. It's one thing I really don't think a lot of non-supporters get. It is a movement. It's about the ideas, the policies, and the direction of the party and country- and it's bigger than Hillary vs Bernie. It's about more than election cycle. It'll be a decades long fight to get us to a more equal society. I intend to keep pushing my party to be part of the solution and not the problem.

[seabeyond]

89. I really can join with the fight. I get it. When all this started, I was there and enthused.

Sanders though, ..... Made it about him and over time, he has appalled me his actions, words, dismissal, refusal to listen, refusal to think beyond his limited views.

He has ramped up the anger. Without the foundation needed. Just anger, a chip on the shoulder, blaming everyone else, doesn't do it for me.

I like your second paragraph. I even can agree with the need of it.

But, between Sanders and Clinton, I couldn't in all good conscious elect him, for what you are proposing with the nation in the situation it is in.

Interesting. Thanks for taking me in this direction.

[TDale313]

90. Yeah, obviously we see him differently 🙂

A lot probably depends on whether you see his criticism as constructive and necessary or not. But like I said, in the end it's not about him. But a lot is about where the party has left many people behind in its policies and that is gonna be a painful discussion.

[Armstead]

49. Who the hell owns it? The Clintons and Corporate Centrists haven't formally purchased it.

[seabeyond]

55. Silliness.

[Armstead]

57. No you are being silly if you think it is a closed club

[seabeyond]

69. I do not think Republicans, Libertarians and Baggers should elect our candidate. And I do not think

a man who has not participated or worked within the Democratic party has the right to walk in and take ownership.

[ibegurpard]

37. Too late

The Clintons accomplished that task years ago.

[msongs]

20. bernie sanders party of one is all about himself. that's why he has few friends in his peer group nt

[glowing]

29. Hmm...

Let's just explore this thought for a minute... Bernie Sanders is the most liked Senator in all of the US Senate by his constituents. He received massive support by across all parties during his last Senate election and in the primary.

Now, the dislike of congress as a whole has a rating of 9% approval, if even that high. I think dog poop was more favorable than they are as a governing body.

This has been thought of as a "plus" type talking point by Clinton supporters for a long time, but it's really not. It really says to me that he has worked very hard to do the job that voters send him to do. He didn't sell out. He didn't become wealthy off of insider Wall St trading. He didn't work the DC circuit and spend 3 or 4 hrs a day calling wealthy people for money or sucking up to lobbyists. And time and time again, he has been proven right regarding major issues that have gone in the "establishments favor", and blown up in their faces. Look at the Iraq debacle. And now ISIS. And actual talk from Clinton in engaging in a war with Iran on behalf of Saudi Arabia and Israel. Perhaps Iran should pony up some donations for the Clinton Foundation, she's approve weapons sales and become their friends maybe?

Isn't one of the reasons the PTB/ oil Barron's want control of Syria because they want a direct pipeline from Iraq thru Syria and Turkey into Europe? And don't get me wrong, most of that region is a nighmare against humanities, but I believe that's why there is so much focus on Syria...

[99Forever]

21. I sure hope not.

I can't find words to describe what a huge disappointment that would be.

[Lizzie Poppet]

24. The reports on this are nothing but (rather absurd) spin.

Making a whole lost out of what's not really there, as far as Bernie's actual words are concerned.

[Kelvin Mace]

26. Not going to happen

HRC is too vindictive.

[tritsofme]

28. Let's put it this way: He's not on the shortlist, he's not on the longlist, he's not on the list

at all. Hillary isn't going to choose Bernie for anything.

[CoffeeCat]

30. i think that both Clinton and Bernie

camps understand that this is a ridiculous idea; and neither camp wants any part of it.

It will never happen.

That still doesn't stop David Brock and his internet kabuki players from spreading disinformation. A reporter asked Bernie if he would turn down the Clinton VP spot. Bernie refused to answer. It was reported that Bernie's non-answer meant that he wasn't ruling it out. Ha!

That is the origin of this lie-based narrative. It's bizarre.

[winter is coming]

77. Interesting that Brock would be circulating it, though.

Sounds like a last-ditch effort to sway voters away from Hillary, a la "if I vote for Hillary, I could get them both!".

[mahina]

82. Who's on the list?

[KingFlorez]

33. It's not going to happen

[Sheepshank]

34. I don't think it l happen. Fb attempts to promote many clickety click story lines.

I think not.

[DookDook]

35. Age also plays a part.

Hillary will want to pick a younger person to be her VP pick. She'll also want someone who is a third-wayer, wouldn't want someone spouting progressive ideas on the campaign trail that she'd then have to walk back.

[ibegurpard]

36. Not going to happen.

He would discredit himself by accepting. Better for him to stay in till the end and endorse her and release his delegates if he doesn't have enough pledged to pull ahead of her.

[CherokeeDem]

40. No....

I think very little of it....

[HereSince1628]

43. Thinking Sanders is worth as much as a bucket of warm spit?

Although that part seems consistent with a lot of what's been posted on this site,

I don't think this is something likely to every be a ticket I'll actually need to consider.

[silenttigersong]

44. Bernie could primary her if she wins.

Think about it,

[silvershadow]

48. Here's what to do: Ignore it. Concentrate on the next primaries. Volunteer. Donate. nt

[Ino]

50. Hell, I wouldn't want HER as HIS VP (nt)

[left-of-center2012]

51. Absolutely not

I'm a Bernie fan but if it's to be Hillary I'd pray for Warren to be V.P or one of the Castro brothers.

[enid602]

56. czar

I think Bernie's talents would be wasted on a VP slot. Better he be apppinyed a cabinet level position as ACA czar. It would send a clear message to the insuance industry.

[Warren DeMontague]

58. She's already pivoting right for the general, because thats what her beltway nabobs think will win

Expect a veep choice like debbie wasserman schultz.

[me b zola]

59. I think that it would be a mistake for either Bernie or Elizabeth Warren to accept VP

There is nothing there, no means to enact change as VP, and both Bernie and Elizabeth are too old to run following Hillary's time in office.

[pa28]

62. It would legitimize Hillary's awful record, neutralize the left and put Bernie in a cubby hole.

Bad idea all around.

[Feathery Scout]

67. If Bernie were 10-12 years younger....

If Bernie were 10-12 years younger, I think it could be a real option.

But with Hillary at 69 and Bernie at 74; it just isn't wise.

We need a Veep who can run in 8 years....

[rock]

68. I believe that picking a VP for political reasons (i.e. blatantly for votes)

Is a bad idea. Only by choosing VP for what's best for the country/party will not slap you in the face. The voters need to see it that way as it's the first act that they'll see you as presidential. Sort of ironic really: to be as politically beneficial as possible, you must not be political in your choice (of course you'll choose someone of your party, at least someone whom your party will approve of).

[tularetom]

70. I've never wished for anyones death and I don't want to be tempted to start now

So even though Hillary Clinton does not appear to be in especially robust health, I'm strongly opposed to such a suggestion.

We need Bernie on that wall (not hidden in some do nothing office).

[Vote2016]

71. If we nominate her, she'll need a progressive running mate but Sanders wouldn't be interested.

[aikoaiko]

72. Seems like faux-unity propoganda

[Demsrule86]

73. No all the stuff that made hin a bad general candidate

are still there. She needs someone younger too. And honestly I can't stand Bernie.

[demwing]

74. The only upside I see

is that Hillary is in 3 kinds of hot water, and I can't imagine a better guy to be next in line, should the ball drop. Plus, there's the whole "the VP is in charge of the Senate" thing...

[Red Mountain]

78. It would help unify the party.....

but I think Bernie can do better.

[Demsrule86]

93. Bernie is burning bridges faster than the speed of light

He will be naming post offices before this is over.

[bjo59]

81. If Bernie were to end up in the VP slot on a Hillary

ticket I would begin to think that actual leftists like Chris Hedges might be right when they suggest that Bernie's job has been to gather together anti-corporate and young voters to later deliver over to the system. I don't want to believe that and don't believe it yet. I will not vote to put Hillary and Bill Clinton back in the White House where they can continue to sell out America to the banks and mega corporations.

[senz]

84. They're from nervous Hill fans pushing the "Hill won" meme. Ignore them.

[NorthCarolina]

85. Odd, I heard she was considering Kasich. nt

[CobaltBlue]

86. Likely vice-presidential picks…

On both the Republican and Democratic sides would be running mates born, at the earliest, in the 1960s. Which means that the 1970s are also a consideration. (Paul Ryan, the 2012 GOP v.p., for
Mitt Romney, was born in 1970.)

[Skwmom]

88. Bernie would seriously tarnish his reputation and the movement. It would make a mockery of

what he says he stands for.

[silvershadow]

92. Ignore them. Concentrate on this primary. Then concentrate on convention. nt