Did Hillary Clinton know she'd run for president, again?

[Eric J in MN]

Hillary Clinton gave paid speeches to corporations from April 2013 through March 2015.

Yesterday on "The Stephanie Miller Show," the radio host said that it was OK for Clinton to take the money because Clinton was exhausted from being Secretary of State and didn't know she'd run for president, again.

Did Clinton know she'd run again?

[Duckhunter935]

1. Yes

[COLGATE4]

9. And you "know" this how?

[dchill]

26. And you can doubt it, how?

I can't believe that you believe that. Not for a minute.

[COLGATE4]

38. Easy. Unlike you, I don't have any close connection with the Clintons

or their closest confidantes that would let me make a categorical statement like that based on some actual fact. Otherwise, it would just be the rankest kind of wild-ass specultation, based on nothing more than "because I say so".

[cali]

46. Yes. She was working actively with ready for Hillary.

[Autumn]

2. Hillary has never stopped running for president.

[Agschmid]

6. I agree.

[Yurovsky]

12. Exactly... She didn't care what anyone thought about her money-grubbing...

she felt it was owed her, just like she feels America owes her the Presidency. Greed, privilege, arrogance... that's just who Hillary is. It wasn't a mistake or an oversight. She would sell her own mother if their was a profit involved, and her supporters don't seem to understand that she wouldn't piss on them is they were on fire.

She is royalty. The 99% are peasants. Don't hold your breath waiting for her to help anyone but herself.

[Kall]

28. This.

[840high]

34. yep

[virtualobserver]

3. Of course she did. More importantly, the corporations knew.

[Metric System]

4. Bernie has been plotting his run since he was advocating primarying Pres. Obama.

[wendylaroux]

29. I know,man's knows his shit!

just know that bringing up the obama primary talking point really

does not have the sting you wish it did.

[cui bono]

36. Debunked and explained.

But I'm sure you knew that since you researched this. I mean you're not just spouting off some smearmongering talking point are you? Hillary supporters never do that.

.

[Segami]

5. Hillary began planning her presidential run the minute she became SoS

Anyone who believes anything different is a fool and a chump.

[XemaSab]

7. Correction:

Hillary began planning her presidential run the minute Bill got elected.

[Segami]

13. Oh yes, she had that on her mind way back.....

Now let's see....do I want to join the Marines or should I start padding my achievement resume for a future run as the first woman president.......ok....I'll make a list of the support metrics I'll need.

[Kittycat]

33. Watch out, sniper fire will be coming

[NurseJackie]

10. She's amazing! Always thinking ahead. So talented! She can do ANYTHING!!

Unless she comes right out and says so, there's really no way to be sure ... but I think she's always known in her heart that she'd run again.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. This has been the plan since '92. Or earlier. "Two for one", etc

Not, mind you, that there is anything wrong with that inherently in and of itself.

But they've been sort of open about it. Anyone who suggests she hasnt been aiming for this all along, hasnt been paying attention.

[Armstead]

20. Typical Clintonian BS of them to thumb their noses at the spirit of the law....

The two-term limit exists for a reason...For a couple to conspire to negate it is legal but defeats the purpose of it.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Well, look. Its not like the Kennedys didnt have a similar idea.

And the Bushes, obviously.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Hillary knew the minute Bill was first elected.

Is there any doubt?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. She never stopped running.

[Arkansas Granny]

14. So what if she did know she would run again?

Did she break any law or did she just offend your sensibilities?

[Eric J in MN]

16. Ethics laws prevent a Secretary of State

...or a president from taking speaking fees.

Doing it while knowingly between those jobs is legal, but has the same corrupting effect the Ethics Laws exist to prevent.

[Armstead]

19. If nothing else it was politically stupid to create a potential issue

Appearances matter a lot. It looks like they were currying her favor...at the VERY least.

But I guess adding a few million more to the family boodle outweighed her political judgement. maybe she was afraiding of being Dead Broke again and they might only be worth $30 million.

[Kall]

32. "Did she break any law?"

Welcome back to Clinton Ethics. There's no standard of appropriate conduct beyond the letter of the law.

[jamese777]

15. My understanding

is that in the United States, as opposed to, say, North Korea, people are allowed to earn money.
Bernie Sanders, for example makes $174,000 a year in Senate salary.

[Eric J in MN]

17. Which means he owes us $174,000 of work.

It doesn't make him owe corporations.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. I'm guessing she knew in 1992 that if her misogynist husband could get elected...

all she had to do was keep running UNTIL.

[Califonz]

23. It's actually legal to take bribes from corporations

Until the words "I'm running for president" tumble from the mouth.

[Blue_In_AK]

24. Of course she did.

She's been running for president since 2000.

[CobaltBlue]

25. Stephanie Miller is in over her head.

[cui bono]

37. Stephanie Miller is a Hillbot. She doesn't know anything and she smears Bernie while trying to feign

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innocence and fairness. Can't listen to her any more. Blech.

.

[CobaltBlue]

39. Even that is giving too much credit to Stephanie Miller. She is Team Blue. Nothing deeper.

[cui bono]

40. No, that doesn't explain her smearing Bernie with lies. I agree she's not deep though.

[CobaltBlue]

41. cui bono—I apologize. I stopped tuning in several weeks ago. I missed something at some point.

By the way: Her ex second banana, Chris Lavoie, is also a sellout in support of Hillary Clinton. (Saw his Twitter account. It's disgusting.)

[cui bono]

44. No apology necessary. Well I never liked Chris anyway. The tone of his voice was so grating

and he was just generally annoying.

The thing about Stephanie recently is that she and Thom Hartmann did each other's shows to show that they were both supportive of the other candidate even though they both had their preference, Stephanie's is Hillary, Thom's is Bernie. And she always kept saying she liked Bernie but preferred Hillary and we shouldn't attack one or the other. But I guess that she only meant her callers who supported Bernie should follow that because she would let Hillary supporters go on and on about Bernie without cutting them off or trying to interject and be fair. And then she herself would also repeat talking points about Bernie that were smears/untrue after she went on and on about how she didn't do that and trying to prove how she could be fair with the Thom Hartmann thing.

I really can't stand to hear her voice now. I was already getting tired of the show because of how inarticulate she can be and her lack of knowledge and this bias of hers has made it completely unbearable.



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[Mnpaul]

42. In any discussion of real issues

she is in over her head. When a caller presents a real issue for which she does not have a canned response, she makes a joke and hangs up on them.

[Thinkingabout]

27. Sure she planned to run again and why not. BTW, what official did

Hillary hold during the timeframe you mentioned and what would keep her from making those speeches?

[oldandhappy]

30. She has been running since forever.

Yes, she knew she would run. Yes, she has been planning this campaign since 2008. She left SOS to gather resources for the second run. You have to start early to have super delegates locked up before the campaigns start and to have PACs funded before campaigns start. Yes, she knew.

[tularetom]

31. My advice is don't believe anything you hear on the "Stephanie Miller Show"

Especially if its Stephanie Miller who said it.

She's a lightweight.

[cui bono]

35. Of course she knew. She's dreamed of this for decades and will do anything, ANYTHING, to achieve it.

[Mnpaul]

43. It is what she is really fighting for

Hillary self promotion. People who think that she is running to fight for them are extremely naive.

[Betty Karlson]

45. Typically, Clinton lies and tries to have all things both ways.

In this case, she took the money and made the speech, thinking it would help her presidential campiagn (donor-wise). But then she ran for president and wanted to pretend that the money never changed anything because it was just a private event and a private appearance and ... oh look, someone tangentially connected to Sanders said something that might be spun as vaguely racist and / or sexist! Also math.