I think some people are nuts to not vote for hillary over trump.

[boston bean]

seriously.

[virtualobserver]

1. I'm baffled, considering the Team Hillary "charm offensive".

Maybe it is because Team Hillary puts the offensive back in "charm offensive"?

[boston bean]

2. poor baby.

[virtualobserver]

5. Thank you sir, may I have another? (not implying actual gender here)

[nc4bo]

3. LOL! nt

[Renew Deal]

7. Lead by example

[virtualobserver]

8. So you are saying that I am not charming?

[Renew Deal]

14. You are charming

[onenote]

9. And the Donald will treat you so much better?

Everyone -- Democrats, Republicans, Independents -- have the same, clear choice in this election: do they take the most effective step to stop Trump's election. Or not.

I made my choice a long time ago -- I supported Bernie in the primaries. I have no problem with him staying in the race until the last primary is over. But then, if as is almost certain, Clinton has a majority of the pledged delegates, I think Bernie should step back, endorse Clinton and make it clear that the only responsible thing anyone can do is vote for Clinton in order to ensure Trump isn't elected.

[virtualobserver]

12. What "the Donald" will do is a complete mystery...probably even to him.

He might be an OK President.....he might be the worst President in the history of the republic.

If Bernie loses, what I think that he will do is focus exclusively on why Trump should not be elected.
That way, he won't have to defend the differences between Hillary and himself. He will also focus
on why we can't afford another Republican Congress.

He will continue the revolution.

[onenote]

15. Oh great. A Trump apologist. How naive can you be.

He will push for more military spending and he will look for ways to use it (to prove America is great).
He will continue to demonize Muslims and Latinos.
He will suck up to evangelicals (you think he's going to stop at having the White House say Merry Christmas)?
He will not support a woman's right to choose.
He will make reckless financial/economic decisions just as he has done in his business career.
HE will harm our standing in the world and be a destabilizing force.

The list goes on and on.

This isn't about a choice between Bernie and Trump. I agree that would be a better choice. But what my post was about -- and what your post was about -- is what to do when the choice is between Trump and Clinton.

And that isn't a difficult choice for anyone who wants to be able to say that they did took the most effective step they could to prevent a Trump presidency.

[virtualobserver]

16. How you got "Trump apologist" out of my post is astonishing to me.

My point is that Bernie will have to do for Hillary what she cannot do for herself, should he lose to her.

He will have to take down Trump, and he will have to generate a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress.

If he loses the nomination, this is the perfect opportunity to build the revolution with an alternate national campaign designed to create a Democratic majority.

[onenote]

17. I got it from, and I quote YOUR words: "He might be an OK President"

And no, adding that he might be the worst president ever doesn't change it. Anyone who suggests that he would be anything other than a complete disaster is an apologist for everything he has said and done during this campaign.

[virtualobserver]

18. my point there is that he is a wild card.......I also said that he could be the worst President ever

[onenote]

19. And as I said, your qualifying statement doesn't negate your willingness to

suggest -- by saying he might be an ok president -- that nothing he did during the campaign meant anything.

[virtualobserver]

20. There is absolutely no way to know what he will do. That is not a selling point for him.

[onenote]

24. Either you own the statement that Trump could be an ok president or you don't.

At the moment, you still own it.

[virtualobserver]

25. You are behaving like a prosecuting attorney.....

He is currently shattering the Republican Party. I have no idea what will be left when he is done.

I explained myself clearly.....I have no idea what kind of President he would be.

OK, pretty bad...worst ever...I literally have no idea.

It goes beyond even the idea of a good or bad Presidency. I have no conception of what his Presidency would be like. I can't even form an opinion about what he believes.

It is that fact...not knowing what he believes, that leaves me with no idea about how his Presidency will function.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. You already voted so you deem the Primaries over. I have my ballots ready to take to

the Elections Office and my CA family does not even vote until next month. Your verbiage is insulting to millions of voters. 'They don't count out West, they are likely to remember how horrific Reagan really was!!!! Call it now!!!!'

[Joe the Revelator]

4. Some people have principles. I, for instance, have never voted for a republican...

...and still won't even if she has a bought and paid for (d) after her name.

[onenote]

10. But you won't take the one step that is most effective at stopping Trump either

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Which makes your principles somewhat suspect.

[baldguy]

35. Somewhat?

You give too much credit.

[Kall]

6. I think some people are nuts

for not being upset that the Clinton campaign has started privately soliciting Jeb Bush's big donors.

[KingFlorez]

11. There are very few of those type of people

Most Sanders voters will support Clinton if exit polls are any indication.

[basselope]

13. They have different priorities than you.

There is also a serious trust factor with Clinton.

While they may not like everything that Trump says, they believe he is saying what he believes.

[DonCoquixote]

21. what is overlooked is

It is not just a matter of who will get out in places like Florida to vote for Hillary, it is the fact that only a candidate that organizes here will be able to overcome the obstacles that will lead whoever doe snot being beaten by cops with impunity to come out. Yes, that was a reference to Trayvon Martin, but I assure you, the papers are already proudly showcasing people who intend to intimidate white people too, with their guns in hand. Simply put, why the hell isn't Debbie focusing on Florida NOW, since Trump's main selling point is that he can take Florida back?

[GulfCoast66]

22. What in the hell are you talking about

I live in Florida. Please post articles about people, guns in hand, threatening people concerning the way they vote.

Until you do I'm calling bullshit. If you provide supporting post I will happily apologize.

And bringing the Trevon Martin travesty into the Democratic primary makes no sense to me. But I will admit I may be missing something.

Have no fear. Once again Florida will vote for the Democratic Party candidate.

Who will be Hillary Clinton

[JI7]

23. maybe they just agree with Trump more , it's clear there are many right wing leaning types here

and this has been the case before this primary started .

[uponit7771]

26. The elite privileged can afford a Trump presidency

[HooptieWagon]

27. Wall St is backing Clinton, not Trump.

[hobbit709]

32. That's because they don't own Trump like they own Clinton.

[Betty Karlson]

28. I think some people are nuts for nominating Clinton over Sanders.

seriously.

[zigby]

29. This post is New and Interesting.

Just what I needed to get off to sleep, thanks!!

[B Calm]

30. I think some people are nuts to not vote for Bernie over Hillary or Trump,

Seriously!

[Sky Masterson]

31. I feel that way about people voting for our resident Neocon over Bernie

Its just nuts

[baldguy]

34. People are nuts not to vote for Clinton positively & enthusiastically vs Trump.

Those that don't just prefer fascism, I guess.