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realmirage

(2,117 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:33 AM May 2016

I will never, ever vote for Sanders, even if a miracle made him the nom

After what happened here

https://www.google.com/amp/thedailybanter.com/.amp/2016/05/sanders-shout-obscenities-clinton-rally/?client=safari#

The camapaign is now something that I want nothing to do with ever, for any reason, and I must say I am so glad that Hillary has beaten him, and it will be a good day when I'm watching him concede, and then pack up and go back to Vermont, never to run for pres again.

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I will never, ever vote for Sanders, even if a miracle made him the nom (Original Post) realmirage May 2016 OP
but you would just be ok with Trump because that's what we would get if Sanders is the Nominee JI7 May 2016 #1
Sorry to hijack but no one click that link its a virus SwampG8r May 2016 #46
oh fuck, I did...any suggestions? Armstead May 2016 #49
It's perfectly safe. It passed both Norton and ScanUrl tests. grossproffit May 2016 #54
No, it's not. It passed both Norton and ScanUrl safety checks. grossproffit May 2016 #53
I believe you but why did all my stuff freak out? SwampG8r May 2016 #92
You probably have your security setting too high. Also, do you update your virus definitions often? grossproffit May 2016 #102
Look! A Hillary supporter who knows more about cyber security than her "crack" IT team. Fawke Em May 2016 #167
Someone will need to Alert this thread... FarPoint May 2016 #77
I alerted but only on the link the content of op is what it is. SwampG8r May 2016 #91
Don't sink to their level please -nt- forjusticethunders May 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #3
For better or worse I think this is going to be the iconic image of the Dem primary. ucrdem May 2016 #4
I'm not a sanders supporter but I wish people would stop pushing this one ContinentalOp May 2016 #9
The Sanders campaign had a big presence there, and this guy is clearly not an outlier. ucrdem May 2016 #12
You know the people with the circled faces are Sanders staffers because...?! NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #19
Because it was reported on local TV and supported by interviews and photography: ucrdem May 2016 #20
Nothing on that webpage says that the people with the circled faces are Sanders' staffers. Eric J in MN May 2016 #24
Reporters, college journalism students and their professors documented it as it was happening. procon May 2016 #109
The protest took place, but it wasn't organized by the Sanders campaign. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #114
How did they get there? It was a Clinton event. And Sanders says they were "exactly appropriate" ucrdem May 2016 #116
It was at East LA College. They got there by driving and riding and walking. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #118
That's a weak excuse. Sanders campaign might not have actually procon May 2016 #121
Could be from the Brock brigade... leftinportland May 2016 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #61
Sorry, but people of the same age and mindset show up protesting Trump. Own it. Buzz Clik May 2016 #63
ContinentalOP, I agree that he could be a teabagger, Hortensis May 2016 #140
And you can tell all that by just looking at him? dlwickham May 2016 #177
I think it's just important to remember that LA is the birthplace of ratfucking! ContinentalOp May 2016 #191
Also do you really think COINTELPRO ever ended? ContinentalOp May 2016 #192
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #25
Who came to East LA on Cinco de Mayo? ucrdem May 2016 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #29
Yes she did. She's a trooper and she did her thing: ucrdem May 2016 #30
Of course it has been repeatedly pointed out the posters are from several hispanic groups catnhatnh May 2016 #107
In this video the guy holding the LIAR sign can be seen repeatedly shouting "Bernie" at 6:52-7:03: ucrdem May 2016 #108
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #123
Not all of it. But yes he encourages and supports it, specifically that event, ucrdem May 2016 #125
Oh jesus on a stick that is stupid!!! pangaia May 2016 #132
What SHOULD be the iconic image is the bombing of Baghdad. pangaia May 2016 #131
Where are the backwards "B"s? That Guy 888 May 2016 #5
UNDEC brooklynite May 2016 #6
Ahem Ash_F May 2016 #7
That PUMA was behaving better than the BernieBros in the posts above. baldguy May 2016 #47
It's not a contest Ash_F May 2016 #129
Was that this week? Earlier this year? Sometime in this decade??????? Buzz Clik May 2016 #57
I did not blame Clinton for her back then either. Ash_F May 2016 #133
Sometime in the past decade! 2008! k8conant May 2016 #166
I assume you are aware that she was voicing anger at the DURHAM D May 2016 #86
Yet she felt the need to point out that he was Black. Ash_F May 2016 #135
Actually, this has been a pretty mild contest. Hortensis May 2016 #8
realmirage—I cannot vote for Hillary for her record and campaign CobaltBlue May 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #58
Same here Duckhunter935 May 2016 #62
Dont think that's going to make a diff laserhaas May 2016 #11
Bless your heart! You joined DU April 11, 2016! emsimon33 May 2016 #13
And 6 hides in less than a month and no name change. 3 less than a week after joining. hobbit709 May 2016 #36
One of Skinner's Hillary All-Stars. I assume this OP is what Camp Clinton wishes to be seen Bluenorthwest May 2016 #42
A sad thing for him Duckhunter935 May 2016 #67
Hillary all star, I love it! Thanks! realmirage May 2016 #145
I don't think that it was meant as a compliment! emsimon33 May 2016 #196
Gotta love Brock's Band of Trolls. emsimon33 May 2016 #194
Are you surprised Duckhunter935 May 2016 #64
He would be if his posters werent so bad at what they do. litlbilly May 2016 #188
Actually, more Wall Street funded Super Pac money burned. emsimon33 May 2016 #195
I am not sure that it is his money's worth :-) emsimon33 May 2016 #193
Vegetables are good for you Warren DeMontague May 2016 #179
They were Hispanics protesting Hillary's coup in Honduras AgingAmerican May 2016 #14
But it's never Hillary's fault Mnpaul May 2016 #150
I am definitely #hillaryorbust after this. Democratic Divo May 2016 #15
lol reddread May 2016 #16
I don't think that is a good reason to justify treating kids that way. Democratic Divo May 2016 #22
better to sanction them to death? reddread May 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #115
He doesn't. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #18
Bunch of angry brown people intimidating to you, huh? zigby May 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #119
Wow, been here a whole month Duckhunter935 May 2016 #69
Funny how that works, isn't it? QC May 2016 #74
Yes indeed Duckhunter935 May 2016 #93
Looks that way. n/t QC May 2016 #98
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #117
Mmm, love those when warm Duckhunter935 May 2016 #124
Have you seen this? frylock May 2016 #160
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #163
Blaming millions of people for the actions of a few is the theory behind racism. Eric J in MN May 2016 #17
LOL I suggest you pick up a hobby more your speed, like stamp collecting. zigby May 2016 #21
If we are going to make such pledges, just wait until our side remembers and processes Betty Karlson May 2016 #28
Oh, please don't do this. auntpurl May 2016 #31
Bernie has basically condoned it. realmirage May 2016 #146
Really - Have Proof To Back Up That Assertion cantbeserious May 2016 #178
Will I get a computer virus if I click on your link? B Calm May 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Sky Masterson May 2016 #33
This is why I turned against Bernie Onlooker May 2016 #34
10 hides in the last 2 months... ljm2002 May 2016 #40
Your routine here with the hides and the surly and the affectations fools no one. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #43
Both candidates have some objectionable supporters, on DU and elsewhere. thesquanderer May 2016 #48
To bad Skinner had to bend the rules for you guys Duckhunter935 May 2016 #71
Too many of...BERNIE'S supporters are assholes? pangaia May 2016 #134
Bernie supporters just don't get why they lost realmirage May 2016 #147
That "testosterone-driven Sanders mob" was mostly women. Scootaloo May 2016 #183
Fine. Chan790 May 2016 #35
No worries, Bernie already lost, it's not a problem realmirage May 2016 #148
Oh shit, I clicked on your link and got a warning for virus. B Calm May 2016 #37
More lies from Hillary supporters Vattel May 2016 #38
AANNNDDDDD... ljm2002 May 2016 #39
"another short-timer spreads lies and innuendoes about Bernie Sanders." Care to elaborate? Buzz Clik May 2016 #60
If your challenge had come from almost anyone else... ljm2002 May 2016 #75
And he again attacks the messenger without offering a word of substance. Nice. Buzz Clik May 2016 #79
Interesting reading here, not that you would care. hobbit709 May 2016 #95
It is interesting -- Buzz Clik May 2016 #97
Yep, HRC Group. hobbit709 May 2016 #113
Yep, being swarmed by low count posters with many hides Duckhunter935 May 2016 #73
You can just imagine what went on at the caucuses. oasis May 2016 #41
Yep. grossproffit May 2016 #50
That link is dubious and toxic. Readers should click this one instead... Bluenorthwest May 2016 #44
It's good to know LWolf May 2016 #45
Not supporting the democratic nominee who ever it will be is fricken beachbumbob May 2016 #51
And you'll be gone soon. Buzz Clik May 2016 #65
We'll take the break. Fawke Em May 2016 #169
I'll be voting for the Democrat Dem2 May 2016 #52
But you'll vote for this? pinebox May 2016 #55
+1000 Shadowflash May 2016 #76
You are a liar notadmblnd May 2016 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #127
You are still a liar! notadmblnd May 2016 #139
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #156
Thank you for that, and.. Shadowflash May 2016 #59
I've never understood holding a candidate responsible for their supporters... TCJ70 May 2016 #66
what happened to you?...you got to the station late and missed your train? islandmkl May 2016 #68
This is... Mike Nelson May 2016 #70
Sanders will not be nominated because to do so the super delegates would have to ignore hrmjustin May 2016 #72
But you were fine with Hillary trashing the gay activist community while crediting Reagan for Bluenorthwest May 2016 #87
I am not a reagan Democrat and I was angry at her comments on Nancy Reagan. hrmjustin May 2016 #88
That is just as short-sighted as people saying that they refuse MineralMan May 2016 #78
I have a very low opinion of Sanders, but if forced to vote for him to prevent Trump, I would do so. NNadir May 2016 #80
So you'd let Trump become President One of the 99 May 2016 #81
It's a moot point since Hillary is already the nominee realmirage May 2016 #149
oh well franannjo May 2016 #82
Of course you won't. He's too liberal for you anyway. Broward May 2016 #83
oh H2O Man May 2016 #84
You need to "Start Practicing how to say President Trump" today... Stellar May 2016 #85
My state does not matter Duckhunter935 May 2016 #94
Say it with me.... Stellar May 2016 #165
I think not Duckhunter935 May 2016 #170
Neh, not really since Hillary won this already realmirage May 2016 #151
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #90
Nobody cares. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #96
Bernie's fanatics killed his campaign from the inside. procon May 2016 #99
Ha ha, the most honest man in politics? never took a dirty dime? he supports our policies? ViseGrip May 2016 #100
Sadly, what "happened here" was not what happened mikehiggins May 2016 #101
Oh give it a fucking rest matt819 May 2016 #103
I would respectfully call that a disproportionate response. RufusTFirefly May 2016 #104
You choose, I choose, tis the way it works! oldandhappy May 2016 #105
I'll vote for Sanders if he somehow is nomined. Doesn't mean I like the way his supporters have Hoyt May 2016 #106
get used to it Clinton supporters thebeautifulstruggle May 2016 #110
Although it would be the most distasteful vote I every made rock May 2016 #111
You weren't going to anyway most likely, you were probably just going to quietly vote puke TheKentuckian May 2016 #112
Self delete this crap. Agschmid May 2016 #120
It must be so very embarrassing for Hillary that most of the protesters were Hispanic azurnoir May 2016 #122
that's fine. You won't vote for Bernie due to the actions of his supporters. I won't vote dana_b May 2016 #126
LOL Hillary supporters are hilarious. No problem with her role in Haiti and Honduras, vintx May 2016 #128
How utterly ridiculous and drama queenesque of you. floriduck May 2016 #130
I'll be enjoying working with Hillary supporters in July to win the White House realmirage May 2016 #136
What ever unapatriciated May 2016 #159
Boohoo Rass May 2016 #137
Thanks everyone for keeping this thread alive realmirage May 2016 #138
Never mind that the Democrats were supposed to be the adults in this room this election cycle seabeyond May 2016 #141
Member since April 11, 2016 7wo7rees May 2016 #142
And will be a member long after the anti-dems are banned realmirage May 2016 #143
I just should not respond, but I must. 7wo7rees May 2016 #152
Just peruse GDP for the anti-dem bile floating here realmirage May 2016 #154
I am sure Hillary has a strict rule to only hire paid shills on line, but never in real life. GoneFishin May 2016 #144
One day you'll be able to tell your grandkids realmirage May 2016 #153
Yeah. Good one. Argh, argh, argh. GoneFishin May 2016 #174
Gonna vote for the oligarch loving serial lying war pig then? boomer55 May 2016 #155
If you mean will I vote for HRC, with much glee realmirage May 2016 #157
cough*Brockboy*cough frylock May 2016 #158
Everyone should vote for the candidate they prefer. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #161
Yep Duckhunter935 May 2016 #171
Even if he's our nominee? thucythucy May 2016 #162
Who really cares about conservatives that aren't voting messiah May 2016 #164
With all the other baiting, may as well have this flame baiting... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #168
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #172
Basing your voting on the supporters? SHRED May 2016 #173
It's the worst argument against a candidate... TCJ70 May 2016 #176
And on the basis of a context-free still image, and the racist assumptions of people who view it Scootaloo May 2016 #186
I bet you would have before, though! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #175
Do not agree with this idea. redstatebluegirl May 2016 #180
What excuse making dribble . . . . buh bye pdsimdars May 2016 #181
And he's responsible for actions of some supporters how? pat_k May 2016 #182
Because he's aware of what they're doing and he says it's "exactly appropriate." ucrdem May 2016 #184
And when Bush came to Westfield, NJ... pat_k May 2016 #190
Oh no! It's a person with brown skin yelling at a protest! Scootaloo May 2016 #185
I remember HRC supporters saying the same thing after Nevada and the Ferrera and Huerta tweets aikoaiko May 2016 #187
Flame bait from a return troll. Unoriginal too. Weak sauce. morningfog May 2016 #189

JI7

(89,241 posts)
1. but you would just be ok with Trump because that's what we would get if Sanders is the Nominee
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:36 AM
May 2016

and doesn't win .

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
46. Sorry to hijack but no one click that link its a virus
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

Sets off warnings on pc and phone
THE LINK IS TOXIC

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
92. I believe you but why did all my stuff freak out?
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

I honestly am.trying to keep.people.from getting a nasty so what is making my securities freak?
Really asking because you have displayed great computer knowledge in the past and i trust your word.
Do i have my settings too high or what am i doi g wrong to get the response from it?

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
102. You probably have your security setting too high. Also, do you update your virus definitions often?
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

Thanks for the compliment!

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
167. Look! A Hillary supporter who knows more about cyber security than her "crack" IT team.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

No offense, but I work in that industry and I can't fathom supporting her after learning how unsecure her server was with our country's national defense secrets on it.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
77. Someone will need to Alert this thread...
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:21 AM
May 2016

Somehow it needs to be deleted to protect members from the virus.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
91. I alerted but only on the link the content of op is what it is.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

Apparently fron the respo ses its not a bad link but it freaked.out every thing i tried and i wont click if alarms.go.off

Response to realmirage (Original post)

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
4. For better or worse I think this is going to be the iconic image of the Dem primary.
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:41 AM
May 2016


It's pretty disturbing.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
9. I'm not a sanders supporter but I wish people would stop pushing this one
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:06 AM
May 2016

Just look at that dude. No way is he any kind of liberal, progressive, Sanders supporter, or anything of the sort. Looks like a typical rw asshole to me. I don't know, maybe it's the resemblance to Rush Limbaugh but I would put money on that guy being a teabagger.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
12. The Sanders campaign had a big presence there, and this guy is clearly not an outlier.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:10 AM
May 2016

He has what look like handlers encouraging him if you look closely at the photos and video. If Team B didn't approve he wouldn't have been there. From the Mount Sac Twitter file:



The girl with the cell phone was later ushered out of the gym by police per the Twitter feed and the man in the green shirt breaks into big smiles when hater starts yelling.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
20. Because it was reported on local TV and supported by interviews and photography:
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:56 AM
May 2016

For example an NBC4 reporter describes it this way in the video at the link below: "Bernie Sanders supporters on one side, and on the other, backers of Hillary Clinton waiting to get inside":

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Protesters-Gather-Outside-Hillary-Clinton-Rally-378350571.html

And if you watch the video there's more Bernie branding on view than Clinton's, for example the blue banner behind the reporter:



Lastly, the crowd harassing Hillary supporters are chanting Bernie, Bernie in the Twitter video:

https://twitter.com/SAConScene/status/728388122304598016

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
24. Nothing on that webpage says that the people with the circled faces are Sanders' staffers.
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:07 AM
May 2016

Most of the protesters are Sanders supporters. That doesn't mean his campaign organized the protest.

procon

(15,805 posts)
109. Reporters, college journalism students and their professors documented it as it was happening.
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016


POLITICS
Bernie Sanders Zealots Are Now Shouting Obscenities in the Faces of Hillary Clinton Supporters, Including Children

Bernie Sanders very likely couldn't stop this madness even if he wanted to.

CHEZ PAZIENZA MAY 6, 2016



http://thedailybanter.com/2016/05/sanders-shout-obscenities-clinton-rally/



https://medium.com/sac-media/feelthebs-9d33a5d453d#.5ixy0eagn




ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
116. How did they get there? It was a Clinton event. And Sanders says they were "exactly appropriate"
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

when asked specifically about the behavior of his supporters at that event, several times in several ways, by Rachel Maddow. He makes the "exactly appropriate" remark at 2:31:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/sanders-condemns-disruptions-ok-with-protest-681128003895

procon

(15,805 posts)
121. That's a weak excuse. Sanders campaign might not have actually
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:28 PM
May 2016

organized it, but neither did he denounce the behavior of his belligerent followers. He encouraged them.


In Rachel Maddow's interview, she asked Sanders about the tone of some of the signage held by his supporters and how it might hurt the party’s chances in November:

“When I see people standing outside a Hillary Clinton event, though, holding ‘Feel the Bern’ signs and then people next to them holding signs that say ‘Liar, Liar, Liar’ and ‘Hillary Clinton for Prison 2016? — that is what leads to these concerns that you and Hillary Clinton, worthy as you each may be in each of your messages, won’t be pulling in the same direction for the same things in November.”

Sanders refused to address Maddow’s question about the tone of the protests but moved on:

Response to ContinentalOp (Reply #9)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
140. ContinentalOP, I agree that he could be a teabagger,
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:40 PM
May 2016

but please be aware that the far left and far right share many strong personality characteristics, including a tendency to demonize opponents. Both groups are more like each other in their emotional reactions than either is like more moderate personalities.

This guy could easily be either, but his antipathy as a leftie would be based more on the marchers' refusal to admire and join in the righteousness of his cause and the teabagger's based on her being considered an outsider and not one of his people.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
191. I think it's just important to remember that LA is the birthplace of ratfucking!
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:47 AM
May 2016

And the shaved head and black button up shirt looks an awful lot like the neo nazis around southern california.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
192. Also do you really think COINTELPRO ever ended?
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:54 AM
May 2016

And a leftist latino activist group would be a prime target. Expect to see more shenanigans like this at the convention just like in '68.

Response to ucrdem (Reply #4)

Response to ucrdem (Reply #26)

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. Yes she did. She's a trooper and she did her thing:
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:18 AM
May 2016


And here's a pic from the Tuesday opening of her LA campaign office, with Mayor Garcetti and Dolores Huerta:


City of Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, center, hugs Los Angeles Democratic Party Chairman, Eric C. Bauman, left, as American labor leader and civil rights activist, Dolores Huerta, right, looks on during the opening of Hillary Clinton's first Southern California campaign office at the Laborers' International Union of North America Local 300 on Tuesday, May 3, 2016.

http://www.dailynews.com/government-and-politics/20160503/hillary-clinton-campaign-opens-office-in-la

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
107. Of course it has been repeatedly pointed out the posters are from several hispanic groups
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:01 PM
May 2016

opposed to Hillary and they are not there as "Bernie supporters". But Clinton supporters have no problem posting a known smear based on a lie.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
108. In this video the guy holding the LIAR sign can be seen repeatedly shouting "Bernie" at 6:52-7:03:
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

Seen and heard, starting at 6:46:



Response to ucrdem (Reply #108)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
132. Oh jesus on a stick that is stupid!!!
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:52 PM
May 2016

Bernie's style.. give me a break..

You certainly are quite intelligent, but that is one stupid statement...

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
6. UNDEC
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:45 AM
May 2016

The Sanders people are the one's who get emotional; this is a cold-hearted analysis of the two choices

DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
86. I assume you are aware that she was voicing anger at the
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC. That was May 31, 2008, in Washington DC when Donna Brazile convinced the Democratic Party to ignore/change their own rules mid-primary.



Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
135. Yet she felt the need to point out that he was Black.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

That is identity politics. It is not helpful in creating a functioning government.

I don't know who that shouting guy is, but he is not running Sander's policy.

PS - Looking closely at the photo, he appears to be latino. If so, I can understand why he would be pissed as Clinton's judgement on Honduras was horrific. It was an inconceivable crime.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Actually, this has been a pretty mild contest.
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:58 AM
May 2016

Almost all the debates were something we could be proud of, the last a little unattractively contentious but still on the issues.

There's been some generally minor mudslinging, mostly at the frontrunner from the person behind, which of course is entirely normal and expected SOP. No sensible and experienced viewer should be shocked at that. It's how it's done, but Bernie did set limits for himself and apparently stuck to them.

The real problem is this process goes on way too long. A hungry press sadly lacking in probity needs something to say 24/7/365 for over a year just for the primary portion, and the candidates need to keep feeding them things contentious or otherwise interesting enough to keep being talked about.

Given that dysfunctional reality, I really think we should be grateful and congratulate ourselves on how well our party has done.

Response to CobaltBlue (Reply #10)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
62. Same here
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:59 AM
May 2016

The insults here do not help but I do not make up my mind on voting for president due to their supporters

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
11. Dont think that's going to make a diff
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:09 AM
May 2016

Miffed all the riggings failed to coronate wont matter

If you think Bernie is popular now..wait till you see him

As Dem nominee

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
13. Bless your heart! You joined DU April 11, 2016!
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:38 AM
May 2016

I would not expect you to be a Bernie supporter, but thank you for joining DU and being so prolific in such a short time here.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. One of Skinner's Hillary All-Stars. I assume this OP is what Camp Clinton wishes to be seen
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:31 AM
May 2016

as definitive of the Clinton Culture, along with the AIDS denialism and the adoration of Ronald Reagan.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
194. Gotta love Brock's Band of Trolls.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:29 AM
May 2016

The "join" date always makes them...oops. actually, the nonsense that they post is the giveaway.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
193. I am not sure that it is his money's worth :-)
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:27 AM
May 2016

These trolls' posts are so shallow, fact-less, and contrived that I just go look up their "join" date and then go puke all over their posts...nicely.

Very sad what level our once proud party has fallen to.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
27. better to sanction them to death?
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:12 AM
May 2016

maybe turn their lives into endless terror and upheaval?
make them into refugees and then refuse their attempts to leave?
treating kids that way?

Response to reddread (Reply #27)

zigby

(125 posts)
23. Bunch of angry brown people intimidating to you, huh?
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:59 AM
May 2016

Better get used to it, the marginalized corners of this country are PISSED OFF at neoliberal economic "reforms" that drive their families deeper into poverty, and get rich off their sweat.

Response to zigby (Reply #23)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
69. Wow, been here a whole month
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

Amazing how many anti-Bernie people all show up at once just as Brock says he will pay posters

QC

(26,371 posts)
74. Funny how that works, isn't it?
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

And then there's the way the troll amnesty just happened to coincide with the unleashing of the Brockpuppets.

All of this is purely coincidental, though. I'm sure of it.

Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #69)

Response to frylock (Reply #160)

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
17. Blaming millions of people for the actions of a few is the theory behind racism.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:46 AM
May 2016

You're not a racist, but you're using the same generalizations which racists use.

zigby

(125 posts)
21. LOL I suggest you pick up a hobby more your speed, like stamp collecting.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:58 AM
May 2016

Obviously politics is too extreme for your delicate sensibilities.

Or you're just posting what was sent in the daily dispatch...

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
28. If we are going to make such pledges, just wait until our side remembers and processes
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:14 AM
May 2016

racist!
sexist!
slut!
Hell-bound!
complacent millenial!
f*cking retarded!
pony-wanters! (in relation to gay rights, no less)
unicorn-riders!
Berniebros!
easily duped!

and let's not forget this instant classic from Clinton herself: "PRAISE NANCY!"

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
31. Oh, please don't do this.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:04 AM
May 2016

I don't like the way he's run his campaign either but I think we can all agree he's better than Trump or any GOP. As a Hillary supporter, let's focus on party unity and try to remember that those who took the Bernie campaign to new heights of hatred and divisiveness are probably in the very small minority.

I will vote for EITHER Democratic candidate with joy in my heart! The alternative is too awful to contemplate.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
146. Bernie has basically condoned it.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

I'm a big admirer of Gandhi, someone who'd rather lose than see violence, verbal or physical, have its way

Response to realmirage (Original post)

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
34. This is why I turned against Bernie
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:27 AM
May 2016

I backed Bernie for a long time, but too many of his supporters are assholes. When I began to read in DU about blacks being low information voters, complaints about Hillary's "cackle" and "talking too much," and complete dismissal of all those women's rights, civil rights, and gay rights activists and organizations that backed Hillary, I grew disgusted. The fact is there is not a lot of difference between the testosterone driven Sanders mob and Trump mob. That's unfair to all the wonderful Sanders supporters, but they need to be far more forceful in condemning and marginalizing the assholes in the Sanders campaign.

That said, if Sanders should somehow beat Hillary, he still deserves our vote. Sanders may not be perfect and his campaign may have some flaws, but he and his supporters even at their worst are far better than Trump and his supporters.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
40. 10 hides in the last 2 months...
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:13 AM
May 2016

...forgive me if I don't give a rat's ass why you "turned against Bernie".

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
43. Your routine here with the hides and the surly and the affectations fools no one.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:34 AM
May 2016

It's all as transparent as your transparency page.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
48. Both candidates have some objectionable supporters, on DU and elsewhere.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

But we're not voting for those supporters.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
71. To bad Skinner had to bend the rules for you guys
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:07 AM
May 2016

10 hides, you really need to be on an extended vacation

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
183. That "testosterone-driven Sanders mob" was mostly women.
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

Funny how the right angle in a still image can create an entirely nonexistent story.



GIANT BABOON RAMPAGES THROUGH SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
35. Fine.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:41 AM
May 2016

You're the kind of Democrat we don't need anyways. Get out, don't let the tent-flaps hit you, don't come back.

I hate Clinton, loathe her with every fiber of my being and have sworn that someday I will laugh and mock at her demise...but if my other choice is Donald Trump and CT is competitive...you'd better believe I'd vote for her if only to block that small-handed vulgarian from ever being President.

Anybody making these kinds of "I'll never vote..." posts in a moment when the potential of an extinction-level event is on the horizon in the form of Trump should feel unwelcome here or anywhere that serious Democratic or progressive political discussions are being waged.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
39. AANNNDDDDD...
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:07 AM
May 2016

...another short-timer spreads lies and innuendoes about Bernie Sanders.

You've been here less than a month. You haven't earned enough cred yet (if you ever will) for me to give a rat's ass whether or not you would ever vote for Bernie. Most likely you just came here to shill for Hillary anyway.

Oh yeah: for those who read this, don't forget to check the poster's transparency page. Here less than a month and already 9 hides. The old DU rules are out the door, Hillary's army of miscreants get any number of hides but who cares, right? Yesterday I saw one with 20 hides -- although at least that one had been here more than a month.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
60. "another short-timer spreads lies and innuendoes about Bernie Sanders." Care to elaborate?
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

Your post was nothing but an attack in the poster, not his message.

Step up and support your claim.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
73. Yep, being swarmed by low count posters with many hides
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

Funny also some long time accounts are now active again with many hides.also funny timing with Skinner amnesty and these posters.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
45. It's good to know
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:04 AM
May 2016

that you consider this an appropriate response. That way, you'll still be waving happily when it bites you in the ass.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
76. +1000
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:21 AM
May 2016

Though, maybe it's not HRC's fault.
Maybe it's PTSD from dodging all that sniper fire.

I like to always give the benefit of the doubt.

Response to notadmblnd (Reply #56)

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
139. You are still a liar!
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016


His friends. Yeah sure- Senator Sanders knows all of his supporters on a personal level and they're all his friends. Just like Hillary knows all of her trolls here personally and they're all her friends. AmI right? You know Hillary personally?

Response to notadmblnd (Reply #139)

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
66. I've never understood holding a candidate responsible for their supporters...
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

...Bernie's policies are spot on the way we need to be headed and ultimately, it's not his supporters that will end up in the White House, but him. If that guy is a Sanders supporters at all.

I don't hold Hillary responsible for her supporters...and some of them have been the biggest assholes on this board.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
68. what happened to you?...you got to the station late and missed your train?
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

you've been running pretty hard down the ramp the last month or so...is their a target number of posts you are trying to hit?...and do 'hides' add or detract from your goal?

you would be well-served if DU had an 'opaque' page versus 'transparency'....

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
70. This is...
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

...repulsive - and there is more on Sanders' side because his supporters are more apt to get out and "protest." Still, I can't believe he or his major staffers are connected to this ugliness. And, I would trust Bernie would get rid of anyone involved.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
72. Sanders will not be nominated because to do so the super delegates would have to ignore
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:07 AM
May 2016

the will of the people to do so.

I will not go along with that.

I don't like Sanders not because of his policies but the way he has trashed Hillary.


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
87. But you were fine with Hillary trashing the gay activist community while crediting Reagan for
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

what we did. Your standards are not very consistent.

I get that her supporters are Reagan Democrat types, or actual Reagan Democrats depending on their age. That's not me, never will be. Thank God Bernie was in this primary to vote for, because I will never cast a primary vote for a 'one man, one woman, Reagan was an AIDS hero' candidate again. Not going to happen. If she's the nominee I'll vote against the Republican but it will not be a vote for her outlandish conservative revision of LGBT history.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
88. I am not a reagan Democrat and I was angry at her comments on Nancy Reagan.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

I forgave her after she apologized but it was a big mistake.

I am well aware of her faults.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
78. That is just as short-sighted as people saying that they refuse
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

to vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee. Why work to defeat ourselves?

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is. I always do. I always have. I always will.

You will do as you please, of course.

NNadir

(33,475 posts)
80. I have a very low opinion of Sanders, but if forced to vote for him to prevent Trump, I would do so.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

He's a fool, but there is no way that he is more foolish, more dangerous than Donald Trump.

A few curse words directed in front of a few children - who will hear them anyway at some point in their lives - is nothing compared to putting a psychopath in charge of the most powerful military in the world.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
85. You need to "Start Practicing how to say President Trump" today...
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:30 AM
May 2016

or VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO. Even Hillary had to to do it when it took her to June, 2008 to concede to Obama.

This Is Why Hillary Clinton Can't Tell Bernie Sanders to Drop Out

Her choices in 2008 dictate what she can say now.

But Clinton has not called on him to drop out of the race, for one simple reason: the example her own campaign set in 2008.

Eight years ago this month, Clinton was trailing hopelessly behind then-Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination. On May 1, 2008, Clinton loaned her bankrupt campaign $1 million (following at least $10 million in earlier loans). Before the end of that week, pundits were calling the contest for Obama, whose May 6 win in the North Carolina primary, by 14 points, had made his delegate lead essentially insurmountable.
MotherJones


Back then the racism came from Bill Clinton and their cohorts...It was ugly, believe me!

Response to realmirage (Original post)

procon

(15,805 posts)
99. Bernie's fanatics killed his campaign from the inside.
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

Her recent campaign stop at East LA College was shut down by constant disruptions inside the hall by mobs of Bernie Bros. There are plenty of pixs and reports of Sanders fanatics shouting obscenities at Clinton supporters as they entered and left the rally, grabbed campaign posters out of the hands of Clinton supporters, and hurling insults even at small children who were there with their parents.

When pressed about this in a subsequent interview on Rachel Maddow, Sanders stated that he doesn't agree with protesters' trying to stop Clinton inside her events, but he doesn't have a problem with this fans disrupting the events from the outside of a venue.

At one point I considered backing Sanders, but when I thought about being associated with the likes of his Bernie Bros, I couldn't make the leap.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
100. Ha ha, the most honest man in politics? never took a dirty dime? he supports our policies?
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

All because he points out the problem with the money, that Hillary has become a YUUGE part of? Is this why?

Tell me as someone governing, why you don't like Bernie.

While Hillary's personality is not of my ilk, it IS her policies I don't like, and that's the reason I won't vote for her.

You are just angry as Sanders for shining the light on the continued problem with the status quo.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
101. Sadly, what "happened here" was not what happened
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

It was the MSM's version of what happened.

No media outlet pointed out that most of those protesting HRC weren't Sanders' supporters at all but people trying to draw attention to what she has supported in Honduras and other places. And also that most were not "privileged whites" (another HRC/MSM meme) but pesky brown people who aren't happy with assassinations and repression following HRC's blunder.

And the sudden concern with children? If that boy featured on the MSM wasn't blond and blue-eyed how important would that seem?

Haters will hate and dupes will be duped.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
103. Oh give it a fucking rest
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:47 AM
May 2016

You won't find too many people as honorable as sanders. Perfect? No. But a line be line comparison with Clinton on the honorable scale? More than Hillary herself, it's her supporters and defenders who have be thinking twice about voting for her. Hillary is who she is. Her supporters should be s little more critical. You can still support her but don't tell me she's some great human being.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
106. I'll vote for Sanders if he somehow is nomined. Doesn't mean I like the way his supporters have
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

treated long-time, good Democrats like crud, even the biggest icons in the Party.

 
110. get used to it Clinton supporters
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

especially if she wins

people are fed up with establishment economics and politics, Clinton or no Clinton, Sanders supporters or not

this has been brewing for a while, starting with OWS

rock

(13,218 posts)
111. Although it would be the most distasteful vote I every made
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

I would vote for Bernie if he were the candidate. Just saying it leaves a foul taste in my mouth. But he would be the closest thing to a Democratic candidate on the ballot.

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
112. You weren't going to anyway most likely, you were probably just going to quietly vote puke
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:02 PM
May 2016

and then blame liberals for not showing up.

Why do I believe this?

Mostly because of the fake ass straw that broke the fake ass camel's back is manufactured outrage, I'm not even sure the people you find so offensive are even Sanders supporters.

In fact that is too mild, I have no such information. Every one with a problem with Clinton is not under Sanders' umbrella. Yes, there are even people, even brown people who have some legitimate beefs with Clinton and might transfer that to her supporters too.
I here tell that there were folks protesting her stands and actions on Honduras, I bet some folks in that group might be really fiery and Bernie Sanders has no control over them, their anger is completely independent of his existence much less his candidacy

Further, if they are so what is Sanders to do about random asshole supporters, Hillary has some nasty, wrong-headed, mean spirited, condescending asshole supporters that make me want to fucking puke but they have little or nothing to do with my poems with her.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
122. It must be so very embarrassing for Hillary that most of the protesters were Hispanic
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:28 PM
May 2016

and the protest was about her record in Latin America

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
126. that's fine. You won't vote for Bernie due to the actions of his supporters. I won't vote
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

for Hillary due to HER actions.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
128. LOL Hillary supporters are hilarious. No problem with her role in Haiti and Honduras,
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

no problem with her stance on deporting children, but people yelling - THAT YOU CANNOT STAND!

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
130. How utterly ridiculous and drama queenesque of you.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

So, if one of your neighbors shoplifts and gets caught, you should be prosecuted? You would have had as much to do with it as Bernie did for his rude and obnoxious supporters. What the fuck has this campaign season done to people like you?!

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
136. I'll be enjoying working with Hillary supporters in July to win the White House
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

This will be a good place to be once all the anti-democrats are banned

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
159. What ever
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:42 PM
May 2016

been a Dem for over forty years and you are shitting on all of us because we happen to care about our fellow man, climate change, equality and what our party stood for before Raygun and his followers infiltrated it in the 80's. We will still be here so get used to it.

 

Rass

(112 posts)
137. Boohoo
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

Hillary is a compulsive liar, cheater and a thief. She is a crook. It would be awesome to have a female president but not at the cost of killing the working class. There is more to being a president than having a vagina. Unfortunately, Hillary supporters don't understand this.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
138. Thanks everyone for keeping this thread alive
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

The more people see the link and what the Bernie campaign has become, the better

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
141. Never mind that the Democrats were supposed to be the adults in this room this election cycle
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:41 PM
May 2016

Collective tantrums.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
142. Member since April 11, 2016
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

The protestors had many issues. It was not a "Sanders" sponsored event.

Cut it out. Kinda like what Hillary said to Wall Street.
Stop with your bad behavior but we all know you won't.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
152. I just should not respond, but I must.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:13 PM
May 2016

I/we are "anti-dems". WTF! And what is an " anti-dem", realmirage? Do tell....

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
153. One day you'll be able to tell your grandkids
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

You had a candidate that might have won, but he went negative and his followers isolated themselves with negativity. It'll be a good story

thucythucy

(8,039 posts)
162. Even if he's our nominee?
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

Ridiculous.

We need to stop Trump, period. I say it to Bernie supporters, I say it to Hillary supporters.

Keeping Trump out of the White House should be our major priority for 2016. Nothing else comes close.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
168. With all the other baiting, may as well have this flame baiting...
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

It's so healthy to invite pile-on commentary over subjectivity. Following the Bernie Sanders events, this one registers for what it is... some ass who OF COURSE now represents all of us.

Well... Buh-bye. I wouldn't wish for a miracle because we have Bernie Sanders. The miracle would be to find some objectivity to this OP.

Response to realmirage (Original post)

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
176. It's the worst argument against a candidate...
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

...to base your opinion of them on their supporters.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
186. And on the basis of a context-free still image, and the racist assumptions of people who view it
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
180. Do not agree with this idea.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:31 PM
May 2016

Although she will be the nominee, if it were Bernie I would work for him. I would not be a happy camper, but the alternative is to lose the Supreme Court for 30 years and possibly the House and Senate for that long. Not to mention the Trump issue.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
182. And he's responsible for actions of some supporters how?
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

Out of millions who voted for him, how many do you think the people acting like assholes represent? 0.001% more? less?

How is Sanders responsible for their actions?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
190. And when Bush came to Westfield, NJ...
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

... I was out there protesting. Proudly. Along with Citizen Action, Congressman Frank Pallone, and many other groups and prominent individuals.

Here's the DU post about it (pics no longer in OP, there are some in Reply #55)

80 DUers replied. 100% applauding.

Would you really have had Sanders say anything else about protesting outside a political event?

Really?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
185. Oh no! It's a person with brown skin yelling at a protest!
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:34 PM
May 2016

Specifically he's saying "Boo! Boo! Boo!" What a fucking thug, right?

Of course pay no attention to the point of the protest, which was Clinton's support for anti-Latino policies and violence in Latin America. Pay no attention to the fact that there was no unifying political motive beyond that - the event brought in Bernie supporters, yes - but also brown berets, la raza, anarchists, Native activists... it was a pretty intersectional crowd. Welcome to East LA.

Reminds me of how when Black Lives Matter challenge or question the clintons, clinton supporters totally dismiss them as "irrelevant screaming bullies"

On top of the open, naked antisemitism of Clinton supporters.

And the anti-black racism and islamophobia evident from her crowd in 2008.

What I see is that Clinton supporters really get their asses in a bunch when nonwhite people dare criticize or challenge her on any level.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
187. I remember HRC supporters saying the same thing after Nevada and the Ferrera and Huerta tweets
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:43 PM
May 2016

Until they found out that Ferrera and Huerta were distorting the truth.

Keep an open mind for something similar to happen here.
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