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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:10 PM May 2016

Sanders Charged Taxpayer $43,500 to cast a single vote....

Interesting stat!!


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Sanders Charged Taxpayer $43,500 to cast a single vote.... (Original Post) riversedge May 2016 OP
Speaking of right wing hit pieces... HassleCat May 2016 #1
How is this misleading? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #22
When he's busy doing bigger things... scscholar May 2016 #36
He's losing, how's that a "bigger thing"? uponit7771 May 2016 #37
He's being paid to be a Senator metroins May 2016 #57
So you missed the period when Senator Clinton was campaigning for president and missed votes? Autumn May 2016 #61
You want to pay people to not do their job? metroins May 2016 #62
Really, your hillary did it. Give me one of your complaints about that. Autumn May 2016 #63
So you want to waste taxpayer dollars on metroins May 2016 #64
Damn straight I'm good with that. Beats the hell out of wars, think Hills Iraq, and shit like that Autumn May 2016 #65
You understand that's not the choice metroins May 2016 #66
What utter nonsense you are spouting to trash Bernie. Every politician who has ever run for Autumn May 2016 #67
(Insert pic of Hillarys voting record while running for Prez in 2007-2008) JonLeibowitz May 2016 #2
How come Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio were able to cast more votes than Bernie? nt Cali_Democrat May 2016 #7
Bernie ran a more comprehensive campaign compared to those clowns. aikoaiko May 2016 #16
I am sure you can start your own thread on that. I do realize candidates who are riversedge May 2016 #26
Equal treatment is the name of the game. JimDandy May 2016 #32
I think I'll use this thread, thanks very much JonLeibowitz May 2016 #35
Well he does not answer to everyone TimPlo May 2016 #3
This Congress... leftinportland May 2016 #4
so how much did Hillary charge to give the Saudi's weapons deals while raking in $$$$$$$$ azurnoir May 2016 #5
Why not tell us? George II May 2016 #21
I'm a Bernie supporter so that means I'm not good at math azurnoir May 2016 #23
And then there is reality: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #6
What about 2016? nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #14
To be fair, those are different time periods mythology May 2016 #15
Seems all you have anymore are tweets AgingAmerican May 2016 #8
Let's talk voting records. katsy May 2016 #9
Assholes tweet stuff whatchamacallit May 2016 #10
Are you proud of this post? Warren Stupidity May 2016 #11
I guess loveandkindness didn't last too long? GreatGazoo May 2016 #12
If he doesn't win the nomination, forward your complaint to JackRiddler May 2016 #13
At least he can make a vote without later telling everyone " I Made a Mistake" 5 trillion $ Mistake bahrbearian May 2016 #17
The subject line implies that he charged a single taxpayer $43,500 "too cast a single vote". drm604 May 2016 #18
Nope. Just averaged out I suspect. If you calculate differently, then post the figures. Thanks. riversedge May 2016 #28
I think you misunderstood what I was saying drm604 May 2016 #46
I should alert on this post as misleading..but I won't. But I will say shame on you riversedge for shraby May 2016 #19
He's a fucking candidate and I'd pay him twice that much for what he does. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #20
Silly and Foolish Post. Also, easily exposed as a RW-type smear. But, please proceed. libdem4life May 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #25
That is a nasty uncalled for comment . Shame on you. riversedge May 2016 #27
A nasty uncalled for comment on a nasty uncalled for post. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #30
+1 merrily May 2016 #55
+2 dchill May 2016 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #52
Do you get payed for posting this bullshit day after day? dmosh42 May 2016 #29
sure looks like it krawhitham May 2016 #34
The real shame is that he's already lost. Now it's all about ego. Renew Deal May 2016 #31
Would you mind very much to allow the rest sadoldgirl May 2016 #42
Nothing prevents them from voting. Renew Deal May 2016 #45
Let's look at NON-election year for these memes? moriah May 2016 #33
In Hillaryworld $43,500 is called pocket change. Vinca May 2016 #38
Someone sent the OP to a jury. William769 May 2016 #39
+1. Their alert squads have been out in full force CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #41
Glad it wasn't hidden. hrmjustin May 2016 #44
He's been on an ego driven magic carpet ride CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #40
Thanks for giving me a good opportunity for an ignore. sadoldgirl May 2016 #43
How much did her Iraq War vote cost us? Sky Masterson May 2016 #47
VT was so upset that Bernie Sanders was giving speeches Eric J in MN May 2016 #48
According to VoteSmart: pat_k May 2016 #49
Another question. pat_k May 2016 #50
Heck, that's a better per hour rate than Hillary got for speaking! Sancho May 2016 #51
VT doesn't mind loaning him out to the country if it has a snowballs chance in hell of glowing May 2016 #53
BTW, you act like the Republicans are doing anything anyway... LOL. so cute. glowing May 2016 #54
zomg. You're claiming Sanders is the one who panders? LOL! Regards to my abuela. merrily May 2016 #56
What a waste of your remaining brain cells. dchill May 2016 #59
Figures. nt onehandle May 2016 #60
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. Speaking of right wing hit pieces...
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

Or does that only apply when they're used against your candidate?

Autumn

(45,065 posts)
61. So you missed the period when Senator Clinton was campaigning for president and missed votes?
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

You really need to try harder.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
62. You want to pay people to not do their job?
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

I'll call them all out.

Just because these people want to run for president, doesn't mean they shouldn't be doing their jobs. I don't care who it is.

They should be forced to resign before running unless they can perform.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
64. So you want to waste taxpayer dollars on
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

Senators and political figures not doing their jobs but still getting paid?

I'm mad at Bernie, Hillary, Obama and all politicians that waste our tax dollars.

It just happens to be Bernie right now neglecting his job and getting paid for nothing.

Autumn

(45,065 posts)
65. Damn straight I'm good with that. Beats the hell out of wars, think Hills Iraq, and shit like that
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

Last edited Tue May 10, 2016, 06:15 PM - Edit history (1)

metroins

(2,550 posts)
66. You understand that's not the choice
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:38 PM
May 2016

Politicians could go without pay if they're not going to do their jobs such as Sanders.

If this was February, I'd say he could win and go without pay, but after March he has no real path. Just wasting other people's money.

Autumn

(45,065 posts)
67. What utter nonsense you are spouting to trash Bernie. Every politician who has ever run for
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

office has missed votes. I understand something alright, namely what you are doing. What money is donated to Bernie from his supporters is not your money so mind your own business and find something else to bitch about. I will reach my max monthly donation to Bernie in June and I consider it the best money I have ever spent.

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
26. I am sure you can start your own thread on that. I do realize candidates who are
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

in Congress miss a lot of votes.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
32. Equal treatment is the name of the game.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

We've made ourselves comfortable right here in your thread and are looking forward to seeing the stats on Senator Clinton's voting record while she was running for president in 2008.

You're able to post in GDP, because it's still the Dem's PPP season. A comparison of Senator Clinton's taxpayer $$ versus her missed Senate votes is a worthwhile pursuit. Thanks for the thread!

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
35. I think I'll use this thread, thanks very much
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:32 PM
May 2016


Hillary missed a ton of votes, as did Obama. I'm sure you just forgot to criticize them for missing votes on the campaign, though. I understand.
 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
3. Well he does not answer to everyone
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

But people from VT. Seems they did not have issue with him running for POTUS as they vote so overwhelming for him that Hillary was disqualified in VT.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. so how much did Hillary charge to give the Saudi's weapons deals while raking in $$$$$$$$
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

from them for her 'charitable' Foundation?

now there's a twitter meme

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. And then there is reality:
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) missed more roll call votes during 2015 than any other senators, according to data released this week from C-SPAN. Rubio has the worst attendance record, missing 35 percent, or 120 of the 339 roll votes, during the past year, according to GovTrack.
Comparatively, Hillary Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, missed 23 percent of the Senate's roll call votes during the same point in the 2008 presidential election, according to GovTrack. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who won the Republican nomination, missed 56 percent.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a Democratic presidential candidate, missed 8 percent of the Senate's roll call votes in 2015.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/264440-2016-hopefuls-lead-senate-in-missed-votes

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. To be fair, those are different time periods
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

That said, I don't see why it's a huge issue. If Sanders had been the deciding vote on something I'm sure he would have been there.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
9. Let's talk voting records.
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016


https://www.govtrack.us/blog/2015/10/27/presidential-candidates-miss-votes/

"They’ve all missed a lot of votes — well, all except Sen. Rand Paul who is close to the Senate-wide median of 1.1%. Rubio takes the lead here at 26% of votes missed, with Graham (20%) and Cruz (20%) not far behind. Sanders, who is still considered a long-shot, missed 11% of votes. They were all eligible to vote in 379 votes. Clinton missed 13% of votes in the corresponding one-year time period that, like today, was 378 days ahead of the 2008 election.

As you’ll see next, our sitting president missed even more votes than the current candidates when he ran for office."

__________________________
So the problem with this kind of frivolous bullshit spewed is that it reflects poorly on the poo-flinger.

I didn't hold it against Senator Clinton in 2008. But maybe you have nothing substantial to post idk.

Chill. Glass houses etc etc

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
13. If he doesn't win the nomination, forward your complaint to
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

the voters of Vermont. Who will reelect him in a bigger than usual landslide.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
18. The subject line implies that he charged a single taxpayer $43,500 "too cast a single vote".
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

But it's ambiguous as to who was casting the vote. It almost reads like some poor schmuck had to pay thousands of dollars for the right to vote.

The actual post makes it a little clearer: It's taxpayers; plural, not singular, and it's Bernie casting the vote. But even that's misleading since the $43,500 is his salary not a bribe, which could be inferred for the subject line; plus it ignores the voting records of other presidential candidates and also ignores the nature of the votes he missed. Were they procedural votes or were they votes for actual bills, and were they situations where his vote would have made a difference?

These kinds of information free political smears are one of the biggest problems with our political system, and just about everyone does it.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
19. I should alert on this post as misleading..but I won't. But I will say shame on you riversedge for
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

posting such a misleading piece of garbage.
I wouldn't do that to Hillary, and you shouldn't do it to Bernie.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Response to riversedge (Reply #27)

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
31. The real shame is that he's already lost. Now it's all about ego.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

He is not only wasting taxpayer money. He is wasting his supporters money as well. You know who paid for his family vacation to Rome? Supporters paid for transportation and lodging. Taxpayers paid for security. And this is for a guy that can't admit he lost.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
42. Would you mind very much to allow the rest
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:09 PM
May 2016

of the people in the remaining states to vote?

It is totally irrelevant, what the math says for
those in OR and CA; their right to vote should be
respected, not just overlooked.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
45. Nothing prevents them from voting.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

The elections will still happen and the candidates are still on the ballot

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
48. VT was so upset that Bernie Sanders was giving speeches
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:37 AM
May 2016

...across America for a liberal agenda that it gave him 86% of its Democratic Primary vote.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
49. According to VoteSmart:
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:59 AM
May 2016

Below are the "Key National Votes" since October 1 (Only 7 in 2016, not 38, listed)
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders#.VzBckvkrK1s

Just curious. Which ones do you consider the most critical? On the votes he missed, how do you think he should have voted?

---------------------------------------------------

April 7, 2016 S Amdt 3483 Establishes Standards for Passenger Space on Airplanes Amendment Rejected - Senate
(42 - 54) Did Not Vote

March 14, 2016 PN 1152 Nomination of John B. King to be Secretary of Education Nomination Confirmed - Senate
(49 - 40) Did Not Vote

Feb. 4, 2016 S 2012 Energy Policy Modernization Act of 2015 Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(43 - 54) Did Not Vote

Jan. 21, 2016 S J Res 22 A Joint Resolution Providing for Congressional Disapproval Under Chapter 8 of Title 5, United States Code, of the Rule Submitted by the Corps of Engineers and the Environmental Protection Agency Relating to the Definition of "Waters of the United States" Under the Federal Water Pollution Control Act Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(52 - 40) Did Not Vote

Jan. 20, 2016 HR 4038 American Security Against Foreign Enemies (SAFE) Act Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(55 - 43) Did Not Vote

Jan. 19, 2016 PN 367 Nomination of Wilhelmina Wright to Be U.S. District Judge Nomination Confirmed - Senate
(58 - 36) Did Not Vote

Jan. 12, 2016 S 2232 Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2015 Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(53 - 44) Yea

Dec. 18, 2015 HR 2029 Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2016 Concurrence Vote Passed - Senate
(65 - 33) Nay

Dec. 3, 2015 HR 3762 Restoring Americans' Healthcare Freedom Reconciliation Act of 2015 Bill Passed - Senate
(52 - 47) Did Not Vote

Dec. 3, 2015 S Amdt 2908 Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 Amendment Rejected - Senate
(48 - 50) Yea

Dec. 3, 2015 S Amdt 2910 Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2015 Amendment Rejected - Senate
(45 - 54) Yea

Dec. 3, 2015 S Amdt 2910 Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2015 Senate Co-sponsor

Dec. 3, 2015 S Amdt 2914 Protecting Communities and Preserving the Second Amendment Act of 2015 Amendment Rejected - Senate
(53 - 46) Nay

Dec. 3, 2015 S Amdt 2915 Defend Our Capital Act of 2015 Amendment Rejected - Senate
(54 - 45) Did Not Vote

Nov. 17, 2015 S J Res 23 A Joint Resolution Providing for Congressional Disapproval Under Chapter 8 of Title 5, United States Code, of a Rule Submitted by the Environmental Protection Agency Relating to "Standards of Performance for Greenhouse Gas Emissions from New, Modified, and Reconstructed Stationary Sources: Electric Utility Generating Units" Bill Passed - Senate
(52 - 46) Nay

Nov. 17, 2015 S J Res 24 A Joint Resolution Providing for Congressional Disapproval under Chapter 8 of Title 5, United States Code, of a Rule Submitted by the Environmental Protection Agency Relating to "Carbon Pollution Emission Guidelines for Existing Stationary Sources: Electric Utility Generating Units" Bill Passed - Senate
(52 - 46) Nay

Nov. 5, 2015 HR 2685 Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2016 Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(51 - 44) Did Not Vote

Nov. 3, 2015 S 1140 Federal Water Quality Protection Act Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(57 - 41) Nay

Oct. 29, 2015 HR 1314 Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 Concurrence Vote Passed - Senate
(64 - 35) Yea

Oct. 27, 2015 S 754 Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA) of 2015 Bill Passed - Senate
(74 - 21) Nay

Oct. 22, 2015 S Amdt 2564 Prohibits Liability Immunity for Corporations that Break User Agreements Amendment Rejected - Senate
(32 - 65) Yea

Oct. 20, 2015 S 2146 Stop Sanctuary Policies and Protect Americans Act Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(54 - 45) Nay

Oct. 7, 2015 HR 1735 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016 Conference Report Adopted - Senate
(70 - 27) Nay

Oct. 1, 2015 HR 2029 Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2016 Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(50 - 44) Nay

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
50. Another question.
Mon May 9, 2016, 06:27 AM
May 2016

According to information at votesmart.org

Sanders Missed 9 of 31 key votes in the 12 month period from March 2015 to April 2016 (missed 29%)

Clinton missed 43 of 90 key votes in the 12 month period from May 2007 to June 2008 (missed 48%)

So, just curious, what percentage missed votes before you start "docking" pay?

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
53. VT doesn't mind loaning him out to the country if it has a snowballs chance in hell of
Mon May 9, 2016, 06:50 AM
May 2016

getting the entire country on track...

My Mom and I were just commiserating on our Mother's Day call (she's still in VT). The Universal Healthcare item is huge for her; if we had it, she'd semi-retire and work only as a substitute teacher and my dad would diddle around working on various Harley's for people and spend half their time down in FL with me and half in VT with my sister and other family. It took me a long time to convince her that single payer was a good idea. Now, that it was dangled in their faces, and pulled abruptly, she's quite upset about it. How nice it would be to have my parents enjoy their golden years... What a shame this country can't have nice things.

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