Dem convention host: Sanders supporters better 'behave themselves' when he loses

[workinclasszero]

Dem convention host: Sanders supporters better 'behave themselves' when he loses
By Harper Neidig May 08, 2016, 07:00 am

“I think it’s gonna be a great convention, but of course the key to it is the Sanders people. Bernie’s gonna have his name placed in nomination; we’re gonna have a roll call; there’s gonna be a demonstration in support of Bernie; he’s gonna lose the roll call,” he said. “His supporters have to behave and not cause trouble. And I think they will, and I think Sen. Sanders will send them a strong message.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/279136-democratic-national-convention-chair-sanders-supporters-better

[onehandle]

1. A preview...

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Put the gun away.

It's really stupid and unnecessary.

[MoonRiver]

11. Yep

[workinclasszero]

16. They are planning chaos at the democratic convention

If they cant win then bern it to the ground. (Trump will bring the revolution)

[Fawke Em]

39. I really hope so. The Party needs it.

When the DEMOCRATIC Party nominates a person who would be more at home in a Nixon White House as a result of her stale policies, the party needs a dust up.

[AzDar]

2. WHEN he loses...So why bother voting? Amirite?

[SFnomad]

4. If you're still hanging your hopes on #BernieMath, you're going to be disappointed

By the time both parties get to the convention floor, there usually is a presumptive nominee. They still go through the motions anyway to fire up the base of the party.

[Fawke Em]

33. I hope every last Bernie delegate gets up and walks out to join the

protesters who will be outside.

That way, Hillary fans can see exactly what there base is: a half-empty room of unenthusiastic supporters who'll sit on their asses and hope she wins on name recognition alone (like they apparently did in the primaries since I've yet to see any evidence of enthusiastic support for her).

Good luck with that.

[SFnomad]

51. Bitter much? The "enthusiastic support" BS has gotten has netted him 3+ million fewer

votes. If that's what "enthusiastic support" looks like ... you can have it.

[Demsrule86]

55. If that happens bar the door!

Don't let them back in. Sad to see such sore losers. Bernie is a big disappointment.

[virtualobserver]

3. the arrogance of the establishment......

is enough to convince you of the validity of antiestablishmentarianism.

[fasttense]

29. Ed managed A slur against liberals and an authoritarian threat

Funny how he sounds so much like Trump.

[Wilms]

5. Ed Rendell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Rendell

[HooptieWagon]

7. Because being 29% of registered voters is too big.

The Party needs to purify itself to under 20% to keep us annoying peasants out. This should do it, with the benefit of blowing off an entire generation of millenials. Heckuva job, Debbie!

[KPN]

8. The Party elite are really getting nervous. This ... and Obama's interview.

They should be nervous. They're favorite might even lose the primary.

Go Bernie!!!

[highprincipleswork]

12. The Big Tent would like to deny the many who would join if Democrats acted like Democrats and

protected the economics of ordinary citizens.

[Ash_F]

22. About 15% if they don't want Sanders voters.

[ebayfool]

9. I'm sure that Sander's supporters will behave better than the DNC has done so far... n/t

[bvf]

15. Word. n/t

[azurnoir]

10. seems like he already knows the outcome

interesting but not surprising in the slightest, but not to worry I hear the Philly PD is every bit as effective as their counterparts in Chi-Town

[workinclasszero]

14. Everybody knows the outcome...Hillary won the primary...

except diehard Sanders fans who deny reality.

[azurnoir]

23. well it's rather unusual for an official to make such biased pronouncements on outcomes

but it strip away any mask of DNC nonpartisanship wrt to candidates doesn't it ?

[anigbrowl]

37. It's not biased to recognize the math of the primary results

I understand you'd like for something amazing to happen but the far likely reality is that Clinton arrives at the convention with a majority of pledged delegates and the support of enough superdelegates that she will win on the first ballot. Because there are only two candidates and the winning condition is a simple majority (AFAIK) there will not be anything Sanders' supporters can do about this besides sigh over it.

The convention isn't like the Superbowl where the final game is fought out in front of an audience of millions, it's more like the bit where they hand out the trophy afterwards. There will be only one ballot, because there are only two candidates and so logically one of them will win a majority of the votes. It could just possibly be Sanders that wins that ballot, but that looks pretty unlikely. And once that ballot has taken place, that's the result, there's no second round of voting.

Like I say, Sanders could conceivably win but the probability that he will actually do so is vanishingly low (barring unforeseen circumstances) and everyone with a clue can see that for themselves.

[pmorlan1]

13. Ed Rendell is Pure Establishment

He has a problem with democracy unless he can script it. He's in a tizzy because he knows this convention will be unscripted and the more he tries to force people into doing what he and the rest of the establishment want the more they will reject it. He is playing with fire here so he really should watch what he says.

[anigbrowl]

41. But what unscripted activity do you expect at the convention?

I mean they hold a vote, and on current form Hillary looks likely to win that vote. And then that's it, she's the winner. A candidate only needs a simple majority of the delegates to win. That's been the case since 1936 and there hasn't been a convention that went to multiple ballots since 1952.

So if the vote is held and Hillary wins and Bernie loses, what do you mean by 'they will reject it'? What do you think Bernie's supporters should do if they are outvoted? Also, why, given that the rule about a simple majority being the threshold of victory has been in place for 80 years?

[pmorlan1]

42. LOL

un·script·ed
ˌənˈskriptid/
adjective
adjective: unscripted

said or delivered without a prepared script; impromptu.

So you want me to give you details about unscripted behavior?

[anigbrowl]

43. You can speculate in general terms

Sounds like you don't actually have any answer and are just hoping that Something Happens, regardless of the fact that organizations put procedural rules in places precisely to minimize such unpredictability.

I suppose Bernie delegates could walk out of the convention hall in disgust if they lose but that won't alter the outcome of the vote. Once someone has gained a majority of the votes the delegates' job is basically over anyway. So they could do whatever they liked but it wouldn't change the fact of who the winner is.

[pmorlan1]

44. I'll Leave the Speculation

to you and Ed (or as Chris Matthews calls him ... Eddie) Rendell.

[anigbrowl]

46. Well you started the speculation in post #13

I've just been asking you to clarify what it is you think might happen. Why did you bring the subject up if you don't want to talk about it?

[tritsofme]

17. Sound advice if the Berners around here are any indication.

[appal_jack]

18. k&r - Important to bear witness to the oligarchy's biases. nt

[Broward]

19. Jeb Bush is probably going to get a speaking slot.

Freaking Third Wayers and establishment Repubs are like two peas in a pod.

[NCTraveler]

20. Things will be as clear then as they are now.

The group that will be in attendance at the convention will not be representative of the extremely aggressive Sanders supporters. Many of these people have been a part of the process for a long time. They are good Democrats and will cheer Sanders endorsement speech and Clintons acceptance speech. Almost every single one.

[Fawke Em]

34. How's life in that Bubble?

Most of Bernie's delegates are fairly new to the process, which is how he's challenging her. People got involved in the process JUST to support him. Don't count on their supporting a neocon war hawk who'll do nothing about Wall Street while putting Social Security on the table.

[NCTraveler]

56. I believe you are wrong about most of Sanders delegates.

And you can go around telling people they are in a bubble all day long. All good with me. I believe my statement to be very accurate. Almost every one of his delegates will gleefully back Clinton. I know you dream that not to be true.

[silvershadow]

21. I see the meme is well underway now... nt

[Nye Bevan]

24. Seems like a reasonable request to me (nt)

[grossproffit]

36. Reasonable being the key word. Many of his supporters don't do "reasonable."

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. Eddie can fuck himself.

[NewImproved Deal]

26. Rendell with the Former First Lady...note his button.

This old Machine hack even looks like Mayor Daley...

[link:|

[Waiting For Everyman]

35. What is with her constantly weird expressions? the saucer eyes, etc.?

This pic looks like he goosed her!

[MineralMan]

27. I doubt that is physically possible, really.

Nice sentiment, though....

[grossproffit]

38. If he could do that he'd never leave his house.

[Vinca]

28. If we bother Rendell and his cronies we can always leave . . . permanently.

It's our choice whether to stay or go and our choice whether to vote for Hillary or not. She needs us more than we need her.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. They said the same thing to McCarthy supporters in '68.

The order to conform and suck it up was ignored there.

[yodermon]

31. Remember Breitbart yelling at occupiers not long before his death?

"Behaaaaaaaive yourselves!"

Ssdd

[TheKentuckian]

32. I fart in Fast Eddie's general direction, it will waft over to The Donald about 3 seconds later.

[Waiting For Everyman]

40. Eddie is an idiot.

What he might see is a mass walk out.

But no prob, Hilly's courting "megachurch moms". She'll play them JLo's latest crap tune, and they'll fall into formation and Stepford vote her into office. I'm sure it'll work.

[anigbrowl]

45. But what of it?

OK, so they hold the vote, say Hillary wins and a whole lot of Sanders supporters walk out. OK, she's still the nominee. Once the delegates have cast their vote then there isn't anything else for them to do, really.

[Waiting For Everyman]

47. Exactly.

Then it will be Trump and her, and she's going to need a bigger boat.

[anigbrowl]

48. That doesn't even mean anything

Why is it that people so frequently respond to questions with gibberish? Is your thinking really that disorganized?

[Waiting For Everyman]

49. I take it you didn't see "Jaws". nt

[anigbrowl]

50. I did, and it still doesn't mean anything

I asked you a question and all you can do is repeat worn-out movie cliches. I guess thinking for yourself is too much effort.

[Waiting For Everyman]

52. I don't really care if you're satisfied with my comments or not.

Your critiques are a matter of indifference to me.

However I will say that I think most people probably understood what my post(s) meant.

[anigbrowl]

53. I know who you remind me of

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/weekend-update-girl-you-wish-you-hadnt-started-a-conversation-with-at-a-party---christmas/n30774

[Demsrule86]

54. So Bernie really sacrifice his Senate career by putting his name in when he has no chance?

Bernie is not all there. Democrats including me will never forgive him for turning our convention into a circus...well he won't around much after this. I have never seen a person lose so ungraciously.