Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:42 PM May 2016

Frack OFF, Rendell: Investment Banker, Fracking Advocate, DNC Chair In 2000 Urged Gore To Quit


I Don't Take Orders From The Likes Of Ed: Do YOU?




PhillyDeals: Rendell's "Part-Time" Gig As Senior Advisor To Investment Bank
http://articles.philly.com/2011-02-03/business/27099082_1_sales-taxes-rendell-critics-investment-bank


Ed Rendell's Fracking Ties Deeper Than Originally Thought
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/08/ed_rendells_fracking_ties_deeper_than_originally_thought_partner/

"Ed Rendell Is Undermining The Democratic Party AGAIN" (Details Rendell's "Liebermanesque" Antics/ 2007):

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/9/321014/-


From: "Down & Dirty: The Plot To Steal The Presidency By Jake Tapper"





Can't imagine why Senator Sanders and his supporters are so disliked and disrespected by someone like this...

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?




48 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Frack OFF, Rendell: Investment Banker, Fracking Advocate, DNC Chair In 2000 Urged Gore To Quit (Original Post) AzDar May 2016 OP
The take away I get from this. griffi94 May 2016 #1
Haha. Seems more like the DNC once again trying to KPN May 2016 #5
Uh...no griffi94 May 2016 #7
"Millions more"... doesn't take into account Caucuses. And there are hundreds of PDs remaining... AzDar May 2016 #8
Yeah whatever griffi94 May 2016 #10
Lord, If that doesn't say it all... AzDar May 2016 #12
Hell isn't coming to breakfast griffi94 May 2016 #13
... AzDar May 2016 #14
Hillary is more likely going to the Big House. eom Fawke Em May 2016 #35
Of course she is griffi94 May 2016 #36
Why are you guys so scared to go to convention, Is hillary scared of big crowds, she doesn't ... bahrbearian May 2016 #16
I'm not scared at all griffi94 May 2016 #17
And then we can go to War! That's her record. bahrbearian May 2016 #19
Well certainly that's your position griffi94 May 2016 #21
A Clinton presidency =s everything old is new again. Divernan May 2016 #30
Ah but you ignore the years of calculated manipulation KPN May 2016 #9
I didn't ignore it griffi94 May 2016 #11
Foolish. KPN May 2016 #25
Whatever griffi94 May 2016 #26
Bernie wins from here out. KPN May 2016 #42
It won't matter if he does griffi94 May 2016 #46
Now you are just making shit up because your candidate can't win without cheating. GoneFishin May 2016 #27
Well, in any case griffi94 May 2016 #31
So you are one of those people TimPlo May 2016 #20
No. I think the USSC gave it to Bush griffi94 May 2016 #24
Do you know why the party was angry with Gore in 2000? Samantha May 2016 #2
Well to be fair to Gore TimPlo May 2016 #22
No, that is not quite true Samantha May 2016 #37
Rendell is a goddamn sleazy crook. tabasco May 2016 #3
Ed Rendell is a good man. apcalc May 2016 #29
Rendell is an old Clinton Machine hack... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #4
+1 harun May 2016 #41
Guy sure seems to come down on the side of the CEO class all the time. Octafish May 2016 #6
I'm embarrased to admit I'm a PA resident who was fooled by him. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #47
Fast Eddie's time of relevance is waning. nt silvershadow May 2016 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #18
And don't forget Tweety loves him pdsimdars May 2016 #23
well that would be the kiss of death to me. hollysmom May 2016 #28
K&R amborin May 2016 #32
Rendell = Hillary = Rendell = Hillary Vote2016 May 2016 #33
Another entitled establishment turd whatchamacallit May 2016 #34
Dem Party Needs a thorough house-cleaning... AzDar May 2016 #38
AzDar—You are correct; but the true power with the Ds are getting what they intend. CobaltBlue May 2016 #44
Where *is* Gore, anyway??? JudyM May 2016 #39
I'm sure you saw this one. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #40
Corrupt dems like Fast Eddie should go Fuck themselves cali May 2016 #43
cali—That’s exactly what’s happening with Ds—via their reps—in Pennsylvania. CobaltBlue May 2016 #48
Ed Rendell IS NOT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION CHAIR! brooklynite May 2016 #45

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
1. The take away I get from this.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

Gore stayed in and won the nomination.
Then lost the GE because Nader convinced enough
voters that there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between Gore and Bush.

And here we are 16 years later with the far left trying
once again to torpedo the preferred Democratic candidate.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
5. Haha. Seems more like the DNC once again trying to
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

railroad their agenda through. You ignored that piece.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
7. Uh...no
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

Hillary has hundreds more delegates and millions more voters.

But when the far left had a candidate that was green...well he wasn't green enough.

It's not an issue in 2016.
Bernies hardcore Bernie or Bust supporters don't have the numbers.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
8. "Millions more"... doesn't take into account Caucuses. And there are hundreds of PDs remaining...
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:15 PM
May 2016

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
10. Yeah whatever
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

Bernie's done.

Hillary will get the nomination on the first ballot at the convention.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
13. Hell isn't coming to breakfast
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

Hillary is going to the Whitehouse.

Sorry if you find that upsetting.

Bernie has neither the numbers nor the power to
be the nominee.

He made a good run but it's done.
He doesn't have and has no way to get the number of delegates
he needs.

His 15 minutes are over even if he decides to continue
raging against the dying of the light.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
36. Of course she is
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:17 PM
May 2016

Just like with the cattle futures and Whitewater and Vince Foster and Benghazi.

But this time it's really really really really....That's 4 reallys...going to happen.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
16. Why are you guys so scared to go to convention, Is hillary scared of big crowds, she doesn't ...
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

seem to get any, are all those Hillary voters afraid to show their faces? If you can get bernie out of the Convention now , it might be a place Hillary could get to feel comfortable. Maybe introduce Cheney or Kissinger and some of her other supporters.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
17. I'm not scared at all
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:31 PM
May 2016

I want it to go to the convention so when Hillary wins overwhelmingly
on the first ballot Bernie doesn't have any wiggle room.

There won't be anymore caucuses or primaries after that so his sore loser
rants will be finished.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
21. Well certainly that's your position
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

And that's your right.

The majority doesn't hold that same view.

The majority of Democrats have given Hillary an overwhelming lead.

They seem to trust her much more than they trust Bernie.


Bernie had a good run.
But he's not going to be the nominee.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
30. A Clinton presidency =s everything old is new again.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:35 PM
May 2016

New cold war!

New regime changes!

New trade deals!

New promotions of fracking!

New Cat Food Commission to privatize social security!

New grand juries investigating the first couple!

New grand jury subpoenaed documents going missing in the White House family quarters!

New presidential impeachment proceedings!

New Bimbo Eruption Squads!

New cigars!

KPN

(15,635 posts)
9. Ah but you ignore the years of calculated manipulation
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:16 PM
May 2016

that have gone into rigging the primary to ensure Hillary's election ... lining up Superdelegates before the primary began and candidates declared, lining up the corporate media and donors (with unspoken promises), a debate schedule designed to suppress viewership, DNC attacks non-stop against the popular "insurgent", primary election shenanigans in nearly every State, etc etc.

Votes honestly earned are admirable; votes earned on the other hand dishonestly or by calculated manipulation are reprehensible.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
11. I didn't ignore it
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

It's not real. It's just an excuse as to why Bernie lost.

Democrats rejecting him is why he lost.

Democrats prefer Hillary.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
26. Whatever
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

In any case Bernie is too far behind in pledged
delegates to catch her.
He also trails by 3 million+ votes.

The superdelegates aren't going to break for him.

So it is what it is.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
46. It won't matter if he does
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:37 AM
May 2016

Since the Democratic contests aren't winner take all.

He's not going to the convention with the most pledged
delegates and he's not going to be the nominee.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
20. So you are one of those people
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016

That still think Bush won FL fairly? You do know that independent media counting of the ballots proved that Dole won FL. Just a bunch of "Voting irregularities" changed the count and SCOTUS ruled that recount would not happen. Man I can not believe this website some times. It really makes me wonder why on a website that is suppose to be for liberals I read so many people who have a GOP point of view on things. Like thinking Bush actually won the election and was not handed it like History has shown us.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
24. No. I think the USSC gave it to Bush
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

But I think it was close enough to steal because
Nader convinced enough voters that there wasn't
a dimes worth of difference between Gore and Bush.

The hardcore progressives and the perpetually disgruntled
seem perfectly OK with letting perfect be the enemy of good.

That seems to be a feeling that's shared with the Bernie or Bust people.

The difference is I don't think enough voters will ever believe that again.
Bush did way too much damage.

Some of Bernies supporters can't seem to stand the idea that Hillary will
be president.
They're going to be sorely disappointed.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
2. Do you know why the party was angry with Gore in 2000?
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

He ran a populist campaign. When you hear those Dems mention that Gore ran a terrible campaign, that is exactly what they are referring to.

Rendell is an anathema to me.

Sam

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
22. Well to be fair to Gore
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

He also did not have outgoing Prez out stumping for him. Bill was too busy in NY stumping for Hillary. Hell he even came to town I lived in in upstate NY and that was a small ass town of >25K.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
37. No, that is not quite true
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

He and Clinton talked about this and both thought in states where Clinton's appearance would hurt Gore, Clinton would not campaign. In states that did not care about the impeachment and subsequent soap opera, Clinton would (and did) campaign.

Sam

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Guy sure seems to come down on the side of the CEO class all the time.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016
Ed Rendell Is Not Really a Democrat, He Just Plays One on TV

by Jonathan Valania
Huffington Post 02/21/2013 12:19 pm ET | Updated Apr 23, 2013

EXCERPT...

In addition to his current duties as professional-liberal-even-Joe-Sixpack-can-love on MSNBC, Ballard Spahr court jester, corporate consiglier at Greenhill & Co investment bank, Rendell is currently co-chairing the steering committee of something called The CEO Campaign To Fix The Debt — a blue-chip cabal of 130-plus plutocrats who have anted up a $43 million kitty to fund a multimedia stealth campaign/public relations offensive to convince the turkeys to vote for Thanksgiving.

Fix The Debt is pushing for radical alterations to the tax code to legalize a hundred-plus billion dollar corporate tax dodge and pass the buck onto the middle/working/underclass in the form of deep cuts to Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare, all the while masquerading as a selfless crusade to save the nation from going over the [cue thunder and lightning] financial cliff. Bless their blackened hearts.

One of the Fix The Debt campaign’s main proposals for deficit reduction is creating a “territorial tax system” that would enable corporations to evade taxation on offshored earnings — which amounts to a combined $418 billion from the Fix The Debt member corporations — when they bring that money home, and giving themselves a $134 billion tax break, according to a new report from the Institute for Policy Studies titled “The CEO Campaign to ‘Fix’ the Debt: A Trojan Horse for Massive Corporate Tax Breaks.”

Just to be clear, they are talking about paying off the national debt by pocketing $134 billion in taxes annually.

And that’s just from Fix The Debt corporate signatories. Taken as a whole, the S&P 500 currently has an estimated $1.5 trillion in revenues in offshore havens. That’s roughly the size of the national debt in 2009.

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-valania/ed-rendell-fix-the-debt_b_2728295.html

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
47. I'm embarrased to admit I'm a PA resident who was fooled by him.
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

I don't know how I missed it. He was a Democrat, he seemed kindly and well-meaning. In the past few years I've discovered how wrong I was.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
40. I'm sure you saw this one.
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:42 AM
May 2016
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-dnc-chair-sanders-supporters-behave-convention-article-1.2629435






Former Democratic National Committee Chairman and ex-Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a huge Hillary Clinton backer, took a shot Sunday at persistent progressive challenger Bernie Sanders’ supporters, saying that they need to “behave” at the party’s nominating convention this summer.

“I think it’s going to be a great convention,” Rendell said on John Catsimatidis radio show “The Cats Roundtable” on AM 970 of the Democratic National Convention in July in Philadelphia. “But of course the key to it is the Sanders people.”


“Bernie’s going to have his name placed in nomination. We’re going to have a roll call. There’s going to be a demonstration in support of Bernie. He’s going to lose the roll call. His supporters have to behave and not cause trouble,” Rendell said. “And I think they will, and I think Sen. Sanders will send them a strong message.”

<snip>





Even though I'm almost 70 years old, when an old fossil like Rendell says I as a Bernie supporter need to "behave," I hear it as a dare. It almost makes me wish I was going to the convention so I could "misbehave" a little bit.

brooklynite

(94,311 posts)
45. Ed Rendell IS NOT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION CHAIR!
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

He is the Chair of the Host Committee, which handles the logistics for the event.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Frack OFF, Rendell: Inve...