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Jill Stein SAVAGES Hillary! (Original Post) runaway hero May 2016 OP
Good, then Hillary is the best candidate to fit this requirement. Thinkingabout May 2016 #1
Yup. n/t OhZone May 2016 #28
Not on Universal Healthcare. liberalnarb May 2016 #55
Hillary's care plan was a cover up of a deal in the WTO that tried (and has largely succeeded) Baobab May 2016 #116
What an obnoxious statement. madaboutharry May 2016 #2
Is Hillary a horrible person for voting for the IWR? Broward May 2016 #5
Nope. Just like Biden & Kerry aren't horrible people for voting for it. grossproffit May 2016 #11
Argumentum ad populum. n/t RufusTFirefly May 2016 #79
Bernie voted for more wars and war funding than... JaneyVee May 2016 #12
Keep repeating your propaganda, maybe a few fools will buy it. BillZBubb May 2016 #41
Bernie voted for MORE WARS than any candidate running. Look it up. JaneyVee May 2016 #43
He's been in office decades more than any other candidate! Seeinghope May 2016 #90
He didnt vote for the biggest foreign policy clusterfuck since Vietnam, though. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #59
Bullshit. liberalnarb May 2016 #61
No. She was wrong but not horrible. hrmjustin May 2016 #13
"Oops I made a Mistake, make me your leader!" bahrbearian May 2016 #68
She was wrong. I lost a cousin in the war so I am well aware of the cost. hrmjustin May 2016 #70
sorry for your loss imaginary girl May 2016 #78
Thank you very much. hrmjustin May 2016 #89
I lost my Brother, "Fool me once" bahrbearian May 2016 #91
I am very sorry for your loss. hrmjustin May 2016 #96
Yes, for that and other reasons. BillZBubb May 2016 #42
It's the only way Stein gets any attention for her campaign. brush May 2016 #25
Yes, I thought it must be a proud moment when mommy saw her daughter go out there pdsimdars May 2016 #45
Especially since Chelsea RoccoR5955 May 2016 #64
No, she's not. Maedhros May 2016 #71
Every single tweet had a valid point. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #94
Well, she isn't sending her to war. Just sending her out to lie for her. libdem4life May 2016 #103
More runaway hero May 2016 #3
shitty thing to say on Mother's Day bigtree May 2016 #4
+1 liberalnarb May 2016 #63
I could care less she thinks of Hillary. hrmjustin May 2016 #6
"I could care less she thinks of Hillary." TimPlo May 2016 #19
Welcome to DU. hrmjustin May 2016 #21
Hillary is not representative of female values. She is more representative of the Lady Macbeth ty Baobab May 2016 #48
Everyone has an opinion. hrmjustin May 2016 #56
"Female Values" ? liberalnarb May 2016 #58
Thank you. libdem4life May 2016 #105
Yep, "female values" sounds like a sexist tRump term. liberalnarb May 2016 #109
What does that have to do with Dr. Stein saying she's a crappy mom? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #113
I don't give a shit what she thinks either to be perfectly honest. liberalnarb May 2016 #65
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers May 2016 #7
Agreed-Nader is an ass Gothmog May 2016 #80
It's amazing how awful "progressives" are to people they don't agree with. CrowCityDem May 2016 #8
Yup. This election has been very eye opening. JaneyVee May 2016 #16
And then they wonder why they cannot get any legislation passed Yavin4 May 2016 #40
I trust you just didn't figure this out. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #114
Thank God she only comes out every 4 years. Jill's a POS. grossproffit May 2016 #9
What an idiot. Bitterness and jealousy is an ugly trait. JaneyVee May 2016 #10
Yes it is. Envy of any kind will take you to the brink. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #75
Nice to hear Jill Stein shares Hillary's values SharonClark May 2016 #14
Universal Healthcare? liberalnarb May 2016 #66
Clearly another one who doesn't do their homework and has no clue who Hillary is. n/t Lucinda May 2016 #15
Uh, that would be every Hillary voter. BillZBubb May 2016 #44
So sad for you that all these well-informed Democrats SharonClark May 2016 #57
I don't know who Jill Stein is. Drunken Irishman May 2016 #17
She is the Green Party presidential candidate. hrmjustin May 2016 #23
Jill Stein... KK9 May 2016 #27
Oh. Drunken Irishman May 2016 #32
Town Meeting KK9 May 2016 #47
She's not relevant. n/t tammywammy May 2016 #35
Our corporate media at work RufusTFirefly May 2016 #85
Not really. Drunken Irishman May 2016 #98
She's received more general election votes than any female Presidential candidate in history RufusTFirefly May 2016 #100
Jill Stein got 469,000 votes n/t lancer78 May 2016 #107
It's not about the corporate media bubble and her being an irrelevant figure... Drunken Irishman May 2016 #108
The majority of comments under her original tweet are calling Stein out for tweeting such a nasty Metric System May 2016 #18
well its women attacking women. runaway hero May 2016 #49
Ugh KK9 May 2016 #20
Ralph Nader Sucks. nt onehandle May 2016 #22
What has Jill Stein ever accomplished? Renew Deal May 2016 #24
Nothing but hurt Obama in the 2012 election. liberalnarb May 2016 #52
IMO shes good on the issues, but if she wants to get anything done she should run as a Democrat. liberalnarb May 2016 #53
She also should run for stuff other than President obamanut2012 May 2016 #111
True, they only seem interested in head of state. liberalnarb May 2016 #112
How very Ann Coulter-ish. NurseJackie May 2016 #26
Nader has been praising republicans these days. OhZone May 2016 #29
Nadar like another pol is in it for Nader. Demsrule86 May 2016 #34
They are nothing alike! but I do agree the "candidate" you compare to Nader is a narcissist Dragonfli May 2016 #54
That first tweet was very telling and I agree.... seekthetruth May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog May 2016 #31
So now we have Jill Stein, Trump and Sanders attacking our nominee Demsrule86 May 2016 #33
Oh and thanks for the warning so I won't waste my time reading anything this person writes. Demsrule86 May 2016 #36
who me? runaway hero May 2016 #39
0.6% of the vote... brooklynite May 2016 #37
WHO CARES WHAT THIS NOBODY THINKS??? Gomez163 May 2016 #38
I really like Jill but this wasn't the best move NWCorona May 2016 #46
Stein is a worthless Nader wannabe. liberalnarb May 2016 #50
Oh, great this one again. liberalnarb May 2016 #51
Who is Jill Stein and what actual role will she play in the upcoming election justiceischeap May 2016 #60
Just a classless politician who decided to use mothers day for cheap political gain. liberalnarb May 2016 #62
True Progressives shouldn't bump Stein. liberalnarb May 2016 #67
Fuck Jill Stein. baldguy May 2016 #69
And we care about the opinions of other party hacks...why? Tarc May 2016 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #73
Jill Stein - another sure loser. wyldwolf May 2016 #74
A year from now Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #76
Why is this on DU? Stein is not a democrat and this does not belong on DU in primaries Gothmog May 2016 #77
Guess what? Some of the best "Democratic" ideas came from outside the party RufusTFirefly May 2016 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #81
In other words, "I have no clue about who Hillary Clinton is or what she's done." nt Sparkly May 2016 #82
I think I saw her on the corner begging for change and handing out flyers KingFlorez May 2016 #83
Class act there. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #84
Jill not Hill. azmom May 2016 #86
Who is "Dr." Jill Stein? kstewart33 May 2016 #87
She's a physician, not just another person flaunting a dubious PhD. RufusTFirefly May 2016 #101
Are you sure about that? kstewart33 May 2016 #115
Great! texstad79 May 2016 #88
BFD Bobbie Jo May 2016 #92
Nails it! HooptieWagon May 2016 #93
I Hate all Progressives....... Everyone to the left of Clinton should be sent to the dungeon. Armstead May 2016 #95
Sorry, but Hillary's negotiating skills are reserved for payments for gigs playing on Wall St. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #97
Jill would be a great president. And she's dead right about this probably. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #99
Brilliant StayFrosty May 2016 #102
Ms Irrelevant. Who cares what she says? redstateblues May 2016 #106
She sounds like a nasty piece of work. JoePhilly May 2016 #110
 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
55. Not on Universal Healthcare.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

I don't like Jill Stein though, this is the third time I've said it but, shes a worthless Nader-wannabe.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
116. Hillary's care plan was a cover up of a deal in the WTO that tried (and has largely succeeded)
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

to privatize away any chance of our having affordable healthcare and education and other public services privatize them and make them impossible forever, globally. Irreversibly.

It also tries to trade away those jobs to other countries.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
2. What an obnoxious statement.
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

I am sure that Chelsea would say she had a great mother.

Jill Stein is a horrible person for writing that.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. Bernie voted for more wars and war funding than...
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:58 PM
May 2016

Any candidate running on both sides. And then theres his gun votes.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
41. Keep repeating your propaganda, maybe a few fools will buy it.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:25 PM
May 2016

Bernie has voted for war funding. Once the troops are engaged in battle, it is the absolute responsibility of the congress to provide funding for the troops' protection. Bernie did the right thing.

Hillary, on the other hand, cynically and dishonestly voted to invade Iraq and to start an idiotic war. Bernie voted no.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
43. Bernie voted for MORE WARS than any candidate running. Look it up.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

You should actually start believing it because its true.

brush

(53,764 posts)
25. It's the only way Stein gets any attention for her campaign.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

We hear about the Green party every four years.

What do they do all the other time? Where are all their candidates for the Senate and House and State houses, etc.?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
45. Yes, I thought it must be a proud moment when mommy saw her daughter go out there
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

in public, on the campaign trail and tell all the lies her mommy had taught her to say about an honest, decent man, when she went out there and LIED about Bernie's healthcare plan. What a proud moment for mother and daughter, . . .telling LIES, one in Iowa and one in New Hampshire. Awww, Family.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
71. No, she's not.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:33 PM
May 2016

How about you take a fraction of a second and consider the mothers and children in North Africa that have had their lives plunged into misery and despair because Hillary trumped up false charges of genocide to justify the destruction of Libya so she could have a military action feather in her presidential ambition cap?

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
94. Every single tweet had a valid point.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

Hillary might well be a warm, wonderful mother...but her record as a public servant certainly doesn't reinforce that.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
103. Well, she isn't sending her to war. Just sending her out to lie for her.
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:46 PM
May 2016

Thankfully, with the bad press that got, we never heard from her again. She was truly a very bad speaker. And then, her mother did not even stand behind her. She let the press go after her.

So, I'm not getting the Great Mother vibe, either.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
19. "I could care less she thinks of Hillary."
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

In order to care less that means you do have some care about it. So what does your being able to care less about something matter that you felt the need to inform us about it? I could care less and I could care more...Big deal yippe for me.


Baobab

(4,667 posts)
48. Hillary is not representative of female values. She is more representative of the Lady Macbeth ty
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
May 2016

pe of "values" .

I am comfortable with Elizabeth Warren or Jill Stein but not HRC.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
58. "Female Values" ?
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:48 PM
May 2016

More like common sense values. I reject that term. Its not "female values" its equality.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
65. I don't give a shit what she thinks either to be perfectly honest.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

I don't trust her. Shes sucking up to Bernie now that she thinks she can use him to boost her own dead campaign, but before she called him a warmonger. I wish she would just go away.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
40. And then they wonder why they cannot get any legislation passed
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

Everything becomes personal with them. Anyone who holds a slightly different view or considers other things is immediately demonized. It's not that they're wrong, but they're corrupt. They want to kill children, etc., etc., etc.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
44. Uh, that would be every Hillary voter.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

They don't see the corrupt, money grubber that people who pay attention see.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
57. So sad for you that all these well-informed Democrats
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

think that Sanders doesn't have the leadership or social skills to deliver on any progressive issue.

KK9

(81 posts)
27. Jill Stein...
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:07 PM
May 2016

Has been running for offices, as a Green Party candidate, here in Mass, since the early 2000s. Only successful at being elected as a Lexington town meeting rep. She's currently a Green Party candidate for President. She also ran in 2012.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
32. Oh.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

Is a town meeting rep like a councilman? Kind of a big leap from a small town council to the presidency of the United States.

KK9

(81 posts)
47. Town Meeting
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

It's a little different than a councilman. New England town structures are weird.

I've only lived here in New England, but I think a Councilman plays both executive and legislative roles? Here (in "towns", as opposed to "cities" (based on government structure, not size), the "Board of Selectmen" is the executive body and they are always elected and the "Town Meeting" is the legislative body. Some towns have a representative Town Meeting, where they elect the Town Meeting reps who can vote to make and amend laws (Lexington does this, and that's what Jill Stein has been). My town has a "Direct Town Meeting", where every registered voter can go to Town Meeting and legislate. We have them twice a year and they are a hoot and tons of fun. One of the few forms of real direct democracy left in the world. EXTREMELY inefficient, however.

But, yeah, being a Town Meeting rep is not a big deal. A smallish fish in an even smaller pond .

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
85. Our corporate media at work
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

My guess is that you don't know who Jill Stein is because you rely on corporate media for your news.

Nothing personal. It's not meant as an attack. Just a sad reality.

As the late Danny Schechter ("the news dissector&quot used to say, "The more you watch, the less you know."

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
98. Not really.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:33 PM
May 2016

But question - why should I know her? Has she done anything significant at any point in her life that would make it possible for an average person like me to know who she is? And don't just say running for president. There's 100 people running for president and I'm guessing you don't know most of them.

Why should I know who she is?

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
100. She's received more general election votes than any female Presidential candidate in history
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

Also (to my knowledge), she was part of the only all-female presidential ticket in history. (with Cheri Honkala).

That alone would seem to be newsworthy, even as a curiosity.

After all, we've got a Reality Show character (almost entirely a product of media coverage) as the presumed Republican Presidential nominee.

But covering Jill Stein would cut into coverage of the Kardashians. Or of Justin Bieber's latest arrest.

https://m.



The problem with being in the corporate media bubble is that you aren't even aware you're inside of it until you manage to get out. But unfortunately, most people never do.

And most people get rather snippy when they're told they're still inside of it. It's somewhat like the reaction of someone who insists that something happened to "a friend of a friend" when informed that the true story is actually a well known urban legend.
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
108. It's not about the corporate media bubble and her being an irrelevant figure...
Mon May 9, 2016, 01:04 AM
May 2016

If she had done anything substantial, like won an electoral vote or been elected to any meaningful office, then I could see your point.

I bet most people wouldn't even know who held the distinction of most votes for a female presidential candidate in history prior to that.

She received 400,000 votes. Cool. That's .36% of the overall 2012 vote total.

Wow! You know who received that much in a presidential race? Michael Badnarik, in 2004, and I have no fucking clue who he is, either.

Had to look that up, though.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
18. The majority of comments under her original tweet are calling Stein out for tweeting such a nasty
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

thing on Mother's Day.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
53. IMO shes good on the issues, but if she wants to get anything done she should run as a Democrat.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

She does nothing but harm running 3rd party. After the votes she stole from Obama in 2012, I wouldn't back her even if she did run as a Democrat.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
111. She also should run for stuff other than President
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:46 AM
May 2016

Start local, then state, than Federal. I don't know why the Greens don't do this.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
29. Nader has been praising republicans these days.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:14 PM
May 2016

He wrote this glowing article praising Kasich.

I wonder if he's really been a Republican all along.

I don't doubt it.

Oh well.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
30. That first tweet was very telling and I agree....
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

....what history does Clinton have in resolving disputes with diplomacy versus brute force?

Response to runaway hero (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
33. So now we have Jill Stein, Trump and Sanders attacking our nominee
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

Didn't the greens hurt us enough when they took votes from Kerry...making the election close enough to steal. Jill Stein...do you think I care what people like you who live in lala land think?

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
36. Oh and thanks for the warning so I won't waste my time reading anything this person writes.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:18 PM
May 2016

Obviously a Trump supporter.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
51. Oh, great this one again.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

If she wants to get anywhere in American politics she should run as a Democrat. Sorry, Jill, you've done nothing but harm.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
60. Who is Jill Stein and what actual role will she play in the upcoming election
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

said almost everyone outside of DU.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
67. True Progressives shouldn't bump Stein.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

Her entire political career she has done nothing but hurt the left. Whether we like it or not, the American Political system is a two party system. When someone runs as a 3rd party candidate, every vote cast in favor of them takes a vote away from the candidate on the left who has a chance. It also helps the candidate on the right by eliminating a vote that could have been cast against them. Bernie is the only voice for Progressives in this election, but if he doesn't win the nomination, we can't afford to be picky, there is too much on the line. Shame on Jill Stein.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
72. And we care about the opinions of other party hacks...why?
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

Jill Stein's opinion about Democrats matters as much as Donald Trump's does.

Response to runaway hero (Original post)

Il_Coniglietto

(373 posts)
76. A year from now
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

One of these women will be referred to as Madam President. The other one will still be writing salty tweets. Dr. Stein can say what she wants. It doesn't matter now and it won't matter in 2017. No one will be checking for her until she decides to lose yet again in 2020. Just like in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2010, 2012 and 2016.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
104. Guess what? Some of the best "Democratic" ideas came from outside the party
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

Dr. Francis Townsend's compassionate but impractical plan for helping seniors helped pave the way for Social Security.

A British economist named John Maynard Keynes radically changed the course of U.S. fiscal policy.

A big-eared crank from Texas, who was neither a Democrat nor a Republican, warned that NAFTA would cause a "giant sucking sound." Guess what? He was right.

As Democrats, we ignore the views of "outsiders" at our peril.

Response to runaway hero (Original post)

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
87. Who is "Dr." Jill Stein?
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:02 PM
May 2016

And geez, who made her mother-in-chief? Besides herself.

And please, cool it with the "Dr." prefix. I've got one of those, and it's soooo self-aggrandizing to parade it here and there.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
101. She's a physician, not just another person flaunting a dubious PhD.
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

Granted, she only went to Harvard Medical School, not some well known, highly respected college.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
115. Are you sure about that?
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

Given her comments, her "MD" must be a "Motherhood Doctorate."

From Harvard no less!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
93. Nails it!
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:07 PM
May 2016

And it's not about Jill Stein. She can't win. It's about supporting the message, and making it known the message has voices.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
95. I Hate all Progressives....... Everyone to the left of Clinton should be sent to the dungeon.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

Clinton is as far left as anyone should ever be allowed to be.

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
102. Brilliant
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:46 PM
May 2016

Donald Trump is an election away from the white house but Jill Stein and the Bernie camp have decided to instead launch a smear campaign against Hillary.

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