2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's reckless regime change in Libya strengthened Africa's deadly Boko Haram terrorist group
Hillary's Regime Change in Libya Has Strengthened Nigeria's Terrorists, Boko Haram
NY Times Top Story: Hillary Pushed Obama to Bomb Libya, Leaving It A Failed State & ISIS Haven
This is how Hillary pushed Obama---against his better inclination----to bomb Libya. Part of her neocon perspective, and no doubt influenced by Kissinger, her self-proclaimed role model.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Deadliest Terror in the World: The Wests Latest Gift to Africa
A UN report published in early 2012 warned that large quantities of weapons and ammunition from Libyan stockpiles were smuggled into the Sahel region, including rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns with anti-aircraft visors, automatic rifles, ammunition, grenades, explosives (Semtex), and light anti-aircraft artillery (light caliber bi-tubes) mounted on vehicles, and probably also more advanced weapons such as surface-to-air missiles and MANPADS (man-portable air-defence systems). NATO had effectively turned over the entire armory of an advanced industrial state to the regions most sectarian militias: groups such as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Boko Haram.
The earliest casualty of NATOs war outside Libya was Mali. Taureg fighters who had worked in Gaddafis security forces fled Libya soon after Gaddafis government was overthrown, and mounted an insurgency in Northern Mali. They in turn were overthrown, however, by Al Qaedas regional affiliates flush with Libyan weaponry who then turned Northern Mali into another base from which to train and launch attacks. Boko Haram was a key beneficiary.
As Brendan O Neill wrote in an excellent 2014 article worth quoting at length: Boko Haram benefited enormously from the vacuum created in once-peaceful northern Mali following the Wests ousting of Gaddafi. In two ways: first, it honed its guerrilla skills by fighting alongside more practiced Islamists in Mali, such as AQIM; and second, it accumulated some of the estimated 15,000 pieces of Libyan military hardware and weaponry that leaked across the countrys borders following the sweeping aside of Gaddafi. In April 2012, Agence France-Presse reported that dozens of Boko Haram fighters were assisting AQIM and others in northern Mali. This had a devastating knock-on effect in Nigeria. As the Washington Post reported in early 2013, The Islamist insurgency in northern Nigeria has entered a more violent phase as militants return to the fight with sophisticated weaponry and tactics learned on the battlefields of nearby Mali. A Nigerian analyst said Boko Harams level of audacity was high , immediately following the movement of some of its militants to the Mali region.
Colonel Gaddafi was a lynchpin of the informal Sahel security plan.
That NATOs Libya war would have such consequences was both thoroughly predictable, and widely predicted. As early as June 2011, African Union Chairman Jean Ping warned NATO that Africas concern is that weapons that are delivered to one side or another
are already in the desert and will arm terrorists and fuel trafficking. And both Mali and Algeria strongly opposed NATOs destruction of Libya precisely because of the massive destabilization it would bring to the region. They argued, wrote ONeill, that such a violent upheaval in a region like north Africa could have potentially catastrophic consequences. The fallout from the bombing is a real source of concern, said the rulers of Mali in October 2011. In fact, as the BBC reported, they had been arguing since the start of the conflict in Libya that is, since the civil conflict between Benghazi-based militants and Gaddafi began that the fall of Gaddafi would have a destabilizing effect in the region.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/the_west_and_boko_haram
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)If our Democratic party lived up to it's name we wouldn't be in this pickle.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)What everyone needs to realize is, this is anything but "mistake."
The strategy, intent, and outcome of these interventions precisely represent the ultimate Neo-con dream: an endless war.
Last thing Empire wants is for Africa to have stability and democracy.
Too many natural resources to steal and too much profits to be made.
Someone like Bernie would make sure the natives in Africa shared in the bounty, thereby cutting into the profits of the banksters.
Peace would be profitable for all, while war makes just a few super rich.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)RT and the Morning Star would be very impressed.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Please don't delude yourself or DU'ers into thinking e was a stabilizing, friendly force in Northern Africa.
Please don't denigrate the memory of those lost in the Pan Am 103 bombing by sympathizing with the person who paid for it.
This is why Sanders is unfit for the White House, a complete naivete on foreign affairs, which is reflected in his followers.
amborin
(16,631 posts)also, if you are so concerned about terrorists, why HRC cozies up to the Saudis, why WJC accepted $10 million from them, and why HRC sold them cluster bombs, along with billions worth of additional weapons? They are linked to 9/11
Tarc
(10,476 posts)But coming from someone who was duped into posting a fake RFK Jr. endorsement of Sanders last night, this thread doesn't much surprise me either...
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)who carry them out. The suggestion that Obama is just another Hillary Clinton puppet is stupid.