2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is the media playing over and over again that Hillary ruined the lives of the women who Bill
had affairs with...even though not all the affairs were proven? It is really nasty and untruthful. By Trumps standards Lady Bird Johnson, Jackie Kennedy, Elizabeth Edwards, Eleanor Roosevelt, and the wives of many other notable politicians are evil enablers. No one ever reports on the things Jackie, Eleanor, or Elizabeth said about their husband's paramours that on record of even rumored. What is so bad is that Hillary haters pump up whatever Trump says and love promoting the unsubstantiated trash that the media puts out.
All the biases are alive and well and sadly, a lot of us support them.
doc03
(39,086 posts)to make it a true horse race, it is good for ratings and advertisement revenue.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Response to SwampG8r (Reply #3)
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synergie
(1,901 posts)No one with any common sense or fondness for facts or doing their homework is deluded enough to believe such obvious lies that have been debunked for decades.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Re-read the comments in this thread.
okasha
(11,573 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)let Trump use them as a.megaphone
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)over, and over and over again. That will shut his ugly fish mouth down.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)I love it.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)And all of his poor daughters seem to have inherited that mouth!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)and the FBI & FOIA Civil Investigations plus the Clinton Foundation/Global Initiative conflicts of interest, doesn't?
synergie
(1,901 posts)who hate the Clintons really seem to enjoy lying about consensual relations with adults, and repeating sex scandals.
They're all equally fact deficient and not supported by reality, but they do sound pleasant to the many who are suffering from Clinton Derangement Syndrome, which these "scandals" were created to cater to.
frylock
(34,825 posts)The ongoing FBI investigation thing?
reality is that No one unless you work for FBI and are assigned the case and/or have a need to know about the case. We do not know what is going to happen. All we know for sure is that Clinton has a FBI investigation on her. We really don't even know if it is about the emails anymore as AG said in a interview that email security review was genesis of the current ongoing investigation. So don't think to tell anyone either way as it is just speculation at this point from both sides of the issue.
oasis
(53,695 posts)There is far too much going on in today's world for it to be an issue from now until November. Trump will look l even more idiotic if he attempts to press on with this attack.
DebDoo
(319 posts)oasis
(53,695 posts)Emily's List why they support Hillary? They had the same information about Bill in front of them when they endorsed Hillary months ago.
TimPlo
(443 posts)Why endorse Sanders even if you like his policies? If you support Hillary you are safe on all bets. If she lost then they are safe because Sanders is not a vindictive man. But if Clinton wins and you did not endorse her you are on shit list. And those organizations depend on money. That is why I never let who endorse who effect me vote. But I understand why some people do because some of Americans have a obsession with xyz said I should vote one way so I must vote they way they say.
procon
(15,805 posts)Trump gets the enabling media to focus on his salacious comment, without raising one question, because anything that hints of another anti-Hillary fictional scandal is good for ratings. Meanwhile no one is looking into Trump's past sexual infidelities and licentious peccadillos.
Dem2
(8,178 posts)Actually they will try to make it a close race for ratings, so they will slash and burn her then at the end they will turn on Trump.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)rejecting those Biblical standards for her own life. To me, that sets her apart from those others. Hillary's response to Bill's affairs was to support DOMA, spend decades claiming that marriage is in need of defense not from adulterous straights but from horrible gay couples wanting to get married.
Now I could cite what Jesus said about same sex marriage, which is nothing and then cite what Jesus said about those who commit adultery which is that they are like pimps (whoremongers being the KJV term of choice) and it would be fair for me to do so because Hillary claims to base her views on the Bible.
I could also cede to her that St Paul does condemn gay people but I'd also point out that St Paul very clearly says women must never seek nor be given power over men. St Paul is anti gay, he also says women are forbidden to speak in public, that they must never ask questions except to their own husbands, in private at home.
I am not sure how it works, that she can attack my family because St Paul but then just do as she pleases, no mind at all to St Paul. 'The Bible, it applies to you but not to me'.
synergie
(1,901 posts)How about citing something to introduce some sort of sense into your primary point, which seems to be completely weak and not very logical.
It's fair to you to use your "biblical knowledge" to attack a woman who has not committed adultery?
So much word salad there, you seem to be trying to attack her on several fronts, but failing to do so, is this an attack on her faith, positions that everyone held in the 90's on gay marriage (Bernie wasn't for it til 2006), her womanhood, or just your personal animosity based on some false beliefs you hold about how she apparently attacked your family?
I'm not sure how your argument or your mind is working here, but it seems to boil down to "I don't like her or her bible, and I don't actually know her history or Bernie's but she's a woman, and it makes me angry!!! So I shall attack her in every way and jumble it all into paragraphs that make no sense, because ANGER!!!"
Bernie thought it was a violation of state's rights for the federal government to recognize your family as being a family. Esoteric nonsense to deny legitimacy to your family, but not that you care about what St. Bernie actually said or supported, since that interferes with your hatred of Hillary for reasons and all.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)have to commit, lies they have to tell, people they have to destroy.
As bad as our mainstream parties are and the people who represent them, and they are, the idea that ANYONE with HALF a brain would say ANYTHING that would risk GOP in the WH fucking boggles my mind.
dsc
(53,397 posts)since when? Trump isn't since when?
moriah
(8,312 posts)Yet, then apparently she alleges he followed the rules of enthusiastic consent:
Hillary, though, is the villain:
The former secretary of state is the closest thing you can imagine to Al Capone, Miller alleged. I dont think she is going to rest until she puts me to rest.
And then there's the accusations of her being a druggie too.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)the first time you have noticed that's how the media in America works?
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Just compare here to 2008. Barack Obama was declared the presumptive nominee when HRC had more popular votes. He was ahead in delegates, and therefore, declared the presumptive nominee WELL BEFORE the convention.
Flash forward to today, and she will have to be battered until the convention because there is a different standard for her. I think it's because she isn't a man. But that's just me.
Vinca
(53,994 posts)She paid a big price for being young and dumb and it still follows her around. I don't think Hillary had anything to do with it, but Bill was certainly to blame.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Her problem was telling Linda Tripp. She thought Linda Tripp was her friend. Linda Tripp ratted her out and made it public.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)she has been an advocate for women for many years. Trump the Rump.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)"'Days of Our Lives' adds spice to life." -- Monica Lewinksy, quoted in the LA Times, 199
"I'm going to the White House to get my presidential kneepads." - Lewinsky in 1992, before she left for Washington, according to her friend and cuckoldress Kathy Bleiler
"I was brought up with lies all the time... that's how you got along... I have lied my entire life..." -- Lewinsky, on one of Linda Tripp's tapes.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)sickened me... Especially the victim-blaming, as there were allegations of sexual assault.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/flashback-hillary-clinton-threatened-bills-accusers-in-1998/
It is commonly believed by Clinton victims that Hillary was behind the siccing of private investigators on the many women who accused her husband of rape, sexual assault or infidelity in the 1990s.
Hillary Clinton revealed her hidden hand when she menacingly issued a clear warning of intimidation to her husbands accusers (and those who would pursue their charges) on the nationally broadcast Today Show in early 1998 in the days after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke.
The Today Show interview with Matt Lauer on January 27, 1998 is famous for Hillarys claim that a vast right-wing conspiracy was behind the allegations of an affair between her husband President Clinton and White House intern Monica Lewinsky. (Transcript source.)
This isthe great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president. A few journalists have kind of caught on to it and explained it. But it has not yet been fully revealed to the American public. And actually, you know, in a bizarre sort of way, this may do it.
Later in the interview, Hillary bluntly issued her threat:
I think were going to find some other things. And I think that when all of this is put into context, and we really look at the people involved here, look at their motivations and look at their backgrounds, look at their past behavior, some folks are going to have a lot to answer for.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)(except with the very young intern). It is the other women that are alleging that they didn't have any kind of consensual encounter and how Hillary treated them that is the problem.