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Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:38 AM May 2016

Why is the media playing over and over again that Hillary ruined the lives of the women who Bill

had affairs with...even though not all the affairs were proven? It is really nasty and untruthful. By Trumps standards Lady Bird Johnson, Jackie Kennedy, Elizabeth Edwards, Eleanor Roosevelt, and the wives of many other notable politicians are evil enablers. No one ever reports on the things Jackie, Eleanor, or Elizabeth said about their husband's paramours that on record of even rumored. What is so bad is that Hillary haters pump up whatever Trump says and love promoting the unsubstantiated trash that the media puts out.

All the biases are alive and well and sadly, a lot of us support them.

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Why is the media playing over and over again that Hillary ruined the lives of the women who Bill (Original Post) Jitter65 May 2016 OP
They need to knock Clinton down and build up Trump in order doc03 May 2016 #1
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #2
Because it's true SwampG8r May 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #9
The only people that believe these lies are Republicans and Trump supporters. synergie May 2016 #15
Not true ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #26
Just so. okasha May 2016 #34
They aren't. But I do think they have an affirmative responsibility to NOT cali May 2016 #4
Clinton's surrogates need to start playing his interview with Howard Stern, MoonRiver May 2016 #5
Lol, fish mouth Tarc May 2016 #6
I read that on another board, and it fits perfectly! MoonRiver May 2016 #7
Because Hillary "OWNS" the media? Because the media "FEARS" the Clinton Revenge Machine? NurseJackie May 2016 #8
Because Sex Sells KoKo May 2016 #10
Well, the FBI thing failed, there is no actual wrongdoing anywhere, but people synergie May 2016 #16
The FBI thing failed? frylock May 2016 #19
reality? TimPlo May 2016 #32
How relevant can a 20+year old "sex scandal" be? oasis May 2016 #11
How relevant? Try asking the women he victimized DebDoo May 2016 #22
Why don't you ask the women who run NOW, Planned Parenthood and oasis May 2016 #24
Because they have to TimPlo May 2016 #33
It's simple deflection. procon May 2016 #12
Obviously because the media is in the bag for Hillary Dem2 May 2016 #13
Hillary has always framed questions about other people's marriges in Biblical terms while Bluenorthwest May 2016 #14
You post seems very hard to be saying something, but you it's rather incoherent. synergie May 2016 #18
Putting GOP in the WH is something the right will try and do regardless of crimes they Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #28
those people weren't opposed to marriage equality dsc May 2016 #31
Because they believe allegations like this: moriah May 2016 #17
The media has pushed Hillary and Trump to the point of nausea; now they rip them both down. Is this Vote2016 May 2016 #20
Because there is a different standard for her LaydeeBug May 2016 #21
The only one I ever felt sorry for was Lewinsky. Vinca May 2016 #23
I felt sorry for Monica too. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #25
Really, you don't think Monica knew what she was doing? nt Jitter65 May 2016 #29
Trump has not always been kind to women, he is trying to paint Hillary as being unkind to women Thinkingabout May 2016 #27
Actual documented quotes from Monica in 1992 on... Jitter65 May 2016 #30
+1000 oasis May 2016 #35
Even though I misguidedly supported Bill Clinton , there were lots of things going on that AzDar May 2016 #36
It helps Hillary with the sympathy vote from women. It's not the "affairs" that is the real problem Skwmom May 2016 #37

doc03

(39,086 posts)
1. They need to knock Clinton down and build up Trump in order
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

to make it a true horse race, it is good for ratings and advertisement revenue.

Response to SwampG8r (Reply #3)

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
15. The only people that believe these lies are Republicans and Trump supporters.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:23 AM
May 2016

No one with any common sense or fondness for facts or doing their homework is deluded enough to believe such obvious lies that have been debunked for decades.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. Not true ...
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016
The only people that believe these lies are Republicans and Trump supporters.


Re-read the comments in this thread.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. They aren't. But I do think they have an affirmative responsibility to NOT
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

let Trump use them as a.megaphone

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
5. Clinton's surrogates need to start playing his interview with Howard Stern,
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

over, and over and over again. That will shut his ugly fish mouth down.

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
7. I read that on another board, and it fits perfectly!
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:29 AM
May 2016

And all of his poor daughters seem to have inherited that mouth!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Because Sex Sells
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:48 AM
May 2016

and the FBI & FOIA Civil Investigations plus the Clinton Foundation/Global Initiative conflicts of interest, doesn't?

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
16. Well, the FBI thing failed, there is no actual wrongdoing anywhere, but people
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

who hate the Clintons really seem to enjoy lying about consensual relations with adults, and repeating sex scandals.

They're all equally fact deficient and not supported by reality, but they do sound pleasant to the many who are suffering from Clinton Derangement Syndrome, which these "scandals" were created to cater to.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
32. reality?
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:56 PM
May 2016

reality is that No one unless you work for FBI and are assigned the case and/or have a need to know about the case. We do not know what is going to happen. All we know for sure is that Clinton has a FBI investigation on her. We really don't even know if it is about the emails anymore as AG said in a interview that email security review was genesis of the current ongoing investigation. So don't think to tell anyone either way as it is just speculation at this point from both sides of the issue.

oasis

(53,695 posts)
11. How relevant can a 20+year old "sex scandal" be?
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:48 AM
May 2016

There is far too much going on in today's world for it to be an issue from now until November. Trump will look l even more idiotic if he attempts to press on with this attack.

oasis

(53,695 posts)
24. Why don't you ask the women who run NOW, Planned Parenthood and
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

Emily's List why they support Hillary? They had the same information about Bill in front of them when they endorsed Hillary months ago.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
33. Because they have to
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:00 PM
May 2016

Why endorse Sanders even if you like his policies? If you support Hillary you are safe on all bets. If she lost then they are safe because Sanders is not a vindictive man. But if Clinton wins and you did not endorse her you are on shit list. And those organizations depend on money. That is why I never let who endorse who effect me vote. But I understand why some people do because some of Americans have a obsession with xyz said I should vote one way so I must vote they way they say.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. It's simple deflection.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:49 AM
May 2016

Trump gets the enabling media to focus on his salacious comment, without raising one question, because anything that hints of another anti-Hillary fictional scandal is good for ratings. Meanwhile no one is looking into Trump's past sexual infidelities and licentious peccadillos.

Dem2

(8,178 posts)
13. Obviously because the media is in the bag for Hillary
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016


Actually they will try to make it a close race for ratings, so they will slash and burn her then at the end they will turn on Trump.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. Hillary has always framed questions about other people's marriges in Biblical terms while
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

rejecting those Biblical standards for her own life. To me, that sets her apart from those others. Hillary's response to Bill's affairs was to support DOMA, spend decades claiming that marriage is in need of defense not from adulterous straights but from horrible gay couples wanting to get married.

Now I could cite what Jesus said about same sex marriage, which is nothing and then cite what Jesus said about those who commit adultery which is that they are like pimps (whoremongers being the KJV term of choice) and it would be fair for me to do so because Hillary claims to base her views on the Bible.

I could also cede to her that St Paul does condemn gay people but I'd also point out that St Paul very clearly says women must never seek nor be given power over men. St Paul is anti gay, he also says women are forbidden to speak in public, that they must never ask questions except to their own husbands, in private at home.
I am not sure how it works, that she can attack my family because St Paul but then just do as she pleases, no mind at all to St Paul. 'The Bible, it applies to you but not to me'.



 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
18. You post seems very hard to be saying something, but you it's rather incoherent.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

How about citing something to introduce some sort of sense into your primary point, which seems to be completely weak and not very logical.

It's fair to you to use your "biblical knowledge" to attack a woman who has not committed adultery?

So much word salad there, you seem to be trying to attack her on several fronts, but failing to do so, is this an attack on her faith, positions that everyone held in the 90's on gay marriage (Bernie wasn't for it til 2006), her womanhood, or just your personal animosity based on some false beliefs you hold about how she apparently attacked your family?

I'm not sure how your argument or your mind is working here, but it seems to boil down to "I don't like her or her bible, and I don't actually know her history or Bernie's but she's a woman, and it makes me angry!!! So I shall attack her in every way and jumble it all into paragraphs that make no sense, because ANGER!!!"

Bernie thought it was a violation of state's rights for the federal government to recognize your family as being a family. Esoteric nonsense to deny legitimacy to your family, but not that you care about what St. Bernie actually said or supported, since that interferes with your hatred of Hillary for reasons and all.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
28. Putting GOP in the WH is something the right will try and do regardless of crimes they
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

have to commit, lies they have to tell, people they have to destroy.


As bad as our mainstream parties are and the people who represent them, and they are, the idea that ANYONE with HALF a brain would say ANYTHING that would risk GOP in the WH fucking boggles my mind.

moriah

(8,312 posts)
17. Because they believe allegations like this:
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/16/bill-clintons-alleged-former-mistress-hillary-is-a-lesbian/

Regarding her relationship with Bill, she said he “put on my frilly nightie, and danced around playing his sax.”


Yet, then apparently she alleges he followed the rules of enthusiastic consent:

According to Miller, Bill Clinton asked for affirmative consent during their lovemaking that “wasn’t that memorable.” Clinton “reminded me of a what a little boy would say to his momma. ‘Is it OK if I put my hand there? Can I touch you here?'”


Hillary, though, is the villain:

Commenting on the 2016 election, Miller, who is now 77-years old said she fears for her life, because she says she has been stalked and spied upon, said, “With the election coming up [Hillary] can’t afford any sort of loose end.”

The former secretary of state is “the closest thing you can imagine to Al Capone,” Miller alleged. “I don’t think she is going to rest until she puts me to rest.”


And then there's the accusations of her being a druggie too.
 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
20. The media has pushed Hillary and Trump to the point of nausea; now they rip them both down. Is this
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

the first time you have noticed that's how the media in America works?

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
21. Because there is a different standard for her
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

Just compare here to 2008. Barack Obama was declared the presumptive nominee when HRC had more popular votes. He was ahead in delegates, and therefore, declared the presumptive nominee WELL BEFORE the convention.

Flash forward to today, and she will have to be battered until the convention because there is a different standard for her. I think it's because she isn't a man. But that's just me.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
23. The only one I ever felt sorry for was Lewinsky.
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:01 PM
May 2016

She paid a big price for being young and dumb and it still follows her around. I don't think Hillary had anything to do with it, but Bill was certainly to blame.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
25. I felt sorry for Monica too.
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016

Her problem was telling Linda Tripp. She thought Linda Tripp was her friend. Linda Tripp ratted her out and made it public.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. Trump has not always been kind to women, he is trying to paint Hillary as being unkind to women
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:32 PM
May 2016

she has been an advocate for women for many years. Trump the Rump.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
30. Actual documented quotes from Monica in 1992 on...
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:41 PM
May 2016

"'Days of Our Lives' adds spice to life." -- Monica Lewinksy, quoted in the LA Times, 199

"I'm going to the White House to get my presidential kneepads." - Lewinsky in 1992, before she left for Washington, according to her friend and cuckoldress Kathy Bleiler

"I was brought up with lies all the time... that's how you got along... I have lied my entire life..." -- Lewinsky, on one of Linda Tripp's tapes.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
36. Even though I misguidedly supported Bill Clinton , there were lots of things going on that
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

sickened me... Especially the victim-blaming, as there were allegations of sexual assault.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/flashback-hillary-clinton-threatened-bills-accusers-in-1998/


It is commonly believed by Clinton victims that Hillary was behind the siccing of private investigators on the many women who accused her husband of rape, sexual assault or infidelity in the 1990s.
Hillary Clinton revealed her hidden hand when she menacingly issued a clear warning of intimidation to her husband’s accusers (and those who would pursue their charges) on the nationally broadcast Today Show in early 1998 in the days after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke.

The Today Show interview with Matt Lauer on January 27, 1998 is famous for Hillary’s claim that a “vast right-wing conspiracy” was behind the allegations of an affair between her husband President Clinton and White House intern Monica Lewinsky. (Transcript source.)

“This is—the great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president. A few journalists have kind of caught on to it and explained it. But it has not yet been fully revealed to the American public. And actually, you know, in a bizarre sort of way, this may do it.”

Later in the interview, Hillary bluntly issued her threat:

“I think we’re going to find some other things. And I think that when all of this is put into context, and we really look at the people involved here, look at their motivations and look at their backgrounds, look at their past behavior, some folks are going to have a lot to answer for.”

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
37. It helps Hillary with the sympathy vote from women. It's not the "affairs" that is the real problem
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

(except with the very young intern). It is the other women that are alleging that they didn't have any kind of consensual encounter and how Hillary treated them that is the problem.
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