Hillary Clinton and the Kissinger Wing of the Democratic Party

[Octafish]

Hillary Clinton and the Kissinger Wing of the Democratic Party

by Pierre Guerlain
Huffington Post, Feb. 10, 2016

In a recent debate with Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton bragged about getting the approval of Henry Kissinger: “I was very flattered when Henry Kissinger said I ran the State Department better—better than anybody had run it in a long time,” she said. Now it boggles the mind how a candidate claiming she is a progressive can even mention Kissinger as a source of pride.

Let us quote “Dear Henry” for some context, thanks to a site dedicated to his worst quotes. About Kissinger’s respect for democracy and the sovereignty of other nations: “I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.”

Kissinger was, of course, walking in the footsteps of Woodrow Wilson who wanted Mexicans to “elect good men.” Another gem of Kissingerian wisdom can be found in this quotation: “The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.”

Hillary Clinton, the former Secretary of State, is thus flattered by the approval of anti-democratic Kissinger. The cat is out of the bag: Clinton’s protestations of progressivism and democratic gains are a sham. She is a Kissinger wannabe.

Let us add two quotes by Clinton’s predecessor as Secretary of State to better illustrate matters: the New York Times reported about the infamous Nixon tapes in its December 16, 2010 edition and we find this new gem: “The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pierre-guerlain/hillary-clinton-and-the-k_b_9199554.html

[rhett o rick]

1. K&R Thanks for posting. nm

[Octafish]

4. Two Degrees of Henry Kissinger

http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/10/23/the-two-degrees-of-henry-kissinger/

Big Oil. JFK thought the guy smelled like Rockefeller.

[nolabels]

2. This elections version of the October surprise.......

The sleeper Republican cell that pretends to be a Democrat.

I don't think it was dreamed up in any plot, but in essence, it's what it is


P.S. And thanks for schooling us about H.K. here at DU in years past, that dude is like pure evil incarnate

[Octafish]

25. Guy knows his treason.

Take 1968.



Torpedoed the Democrats.

George Will Confirms

Nixon’s Vietnam Treason

by BOB FITRAKIS & HARVEY WASSERMAN
CounterPunch, Aug. 13, 2014

Richard Nixon was a traitor.

The new release of extended versions of Nixon’s papers now confirms this long-standing belief, usually dismissed as a “conspiracy theory” by Republican conservatives. Now it has been substantiated by none other than right-wing columnist George Will.

Nixon’s newly revealed records show for certain that in 1968, as a presidential candidate, he ordered Anna Chennault, his liaison to the South Vietnam government, to persuade them refuse a cease-fire being brokered by President Lyndon Johnson.

Nixon’s interference with these negotiations violated President John Adams’s 1797 Logan Act, banning private citizens from intruding into official government negotiations with a foreign nation.

Published as the 40th Anniversary of Nixon’s resignation approaches, Will’s column confirms that Nixon feared public disclosure of his role in sabotaging the 1968 Vietnam peace talks. Will says Nixon established a “plumbers unit” to stop potential leaks of information that might damage him, including documentation he believed was held by the Brookings Institute, a liberal think tank. The Plumbers’ later break-in at the Democratic National Committee led to the Watergate scandal that brought Nixon down.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/13/nixons-vietnam-treason/

THIS is why Secret Government is undemocratic and evil.

[JEB]

3. Important but depressing read. This is the best we can do? nt

[tk2kewl]

5. Full Kissenger quote about doing the illegal and unconstitutional:

Last edited Mon May 9, 2016, 01:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Before the Freedom of Information Act, I used to say at meetings "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." … But since the Freedom of Information Act, I'm afraid to say things like that.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

I am certain that given what we know about Hillary's aversion to truth telling, her relationship with Blumenthal and her propensity for mixing Foundation business and government business, that her private email server was most definitely a ham-handed attempt to circumvent record keeping laws and do business in the shadows.

[tex-wyo-dem]

13. Good point...HK deals with the FOIA by just not saying certain things...

In recorded meetings. Hillary circumvents it by using a home brew off-the-government-grid email server (although she did it badly and carelessly and got caught).

Imagine the next generation of pols who decide to do the same thing with their electronic communications, just much smarter and clandestine...shadowgovernment on steroids. If Hil gets off the hook for what she did, a terrible precedent will have been set.

[KoKo]

21. Kick for Exposure....

[polly7]

6. Ugh. Even seeing his picture fills me with disgust.

He should have been frog-marched to The Hague years ago.

[leeroysphitz]

7. "the Kissinger Wing of the Democratic Party" You mean Republicans? n/t

[BillZBubb]

9. No "Third Way" conservaDems like Hillary.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

12. And Jimmy Carter and LBJ

[Octafish]

18. ''Money trumps peace.''

Kissinger has recommended war as strategic policy since JFK was president.

What is most troubling to anyone with a conscience about Mr. Kissinger’s new form of warfare is that, from a bureaucratic perspective, it worked. By keeping the human consequences of their war-making secret from Congress and the American people, the Kissingers, Petraeuses and Brennans have had a free hand to kill, torture, imprison and maim anyone they wish. They not only need not fear punishment for their illegal acts. Like Mr. Kissinger, who has grown wealthy on the blood of the innocents of Indochina, they can even look forward to being rewarded for them. We are taught as children that crime does not pay. Mr. Kissinger, who has earned tens of millions since the war ended on the blood of innocent Indochinese, is living proof that this is untrue.

-- Fred Branfman http://wariscrime.com/new/one-of-americas-worst-mass-murderers-henry-kissinger/

JFK didn't listen, but those coming after sure as shooting did.

[Dragonfli]

8. K&R for needed exposure /nt

[cali]

10. This.should sicken any real progressive

[3hummingbirds]

27. kissinger

This should sicken everyone, not just progressives.

[Gregorian]

11. They hate democracy because it interferes with their profits. Go Hillary!

They had a great time when we couldn't all communicate. It's over. Now we just need to do a bunch of work, and push the Hillbots out of the way of progress. We can do this.

I was too busy doing other things to pay attention at the time. I am part of the problem. At least I didn't vote for Reagan.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. Great article. K&R

[democrank]

15. This photo is yet another clear example

of what has happened to the Democratic Party.

[amborin]

16. K&R

[tabasco]

17. Dear God, that statement should disqualify her as a Democrat.

I didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic party lefty me.

[Ferd Berfel]

19. You've been on fire lately Octafish

Keep on keepin on !


K&R

[notadmblnd]

31. + a million.

[silvershadow]

20. K&R. nt

[kerry-is-my-prez]

22. Uh - Kissinger was not a Democrat.....

[Maedhros]

36. Yet he has mentored Hillary and she is bringing his methods into the Party.

So, yeah: Kissinger Wing.

[PufPuf23]

23. Doesn't Guerlain mean the Kissinger "vulture anus" of the Democratic party? eom

[emsimon33]

24. K&R

[EndElectoral]

26. K&R - People who bought into progressive and Kissinger have forgot the Nixon regime

[MuseRider]

28. This is why I changed my avatar

to bloody hands. Clinton and Kissinger, two very bloody handed people and now they are together? Maybe they always were. I cannot vote for anyone who would allow Kissinger anywhere near our government.

[ViseGrip]

29. Gads...and people of age STILL want her....they choose to ignore.

[pangaia]

30. The true meaning behind that photo is vomit inducing.

Thanks for the post/info..

The Democratic Party is no more... It is just a name to keep half of us in a prison with painted on windows that we THINK we can see through.

[djean111]

32. I cannot be a member of any party that has a Kissinger Wing.

That's not a "big tent", that is a cross between the Grand Guignol and a charnel house. Figuratively AND literally.

[jamese777]

33. Gallup Poll Political Ideology

Conservatives Hang On to Ideology Lead by a Thread
by Lydia Saad
JANUARY 11, 2016
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Conservatives in U.S. are largest ideological group, at 37%
Moderates close behind at 35%
Liberals remain at high of 24%, first reached in 2014

PRINCETON, N.J. -- Americans' political ideology remained essentially stable in the past year, with conservatives retaining the barest of advantages over moderates in Americans' self-identified political views, 37% vs. 35%. Liberals held firm at 24%.

Conservatives have outnumbered moderates as well as liberals in the U.S. population each year since 2009, coinciding with Barack Obama's presidency. Before that, spanning George W. Bush's presidency, from 2001 to 2008, the two groups were about tied. Through most of Bill Clinton's presidency, from 1993 to 2000, moderates had a slight edge.

The 2015 results are based on interviews with roughly 12,000 national adults conducted between January and December 2015 as part of Gallup's monthly Gallup Poll Social Series surveys.

There was a one-point drop in the percentage of U.S. adults identifying as conservative between 2014 and 2015, from 38% to 37%. While not statistically significant, it does continue the narrowing of the gap between conservatives and moderates Gallup has seen since 2011. Meanwhile, with the percentage identifying as liberal increasing from 21% in 2011 to 24% in each of the past two years, conservatives' advantage over liberals has been cut sharply.

Gallup measures ideology by asking Americans to say whether their political views are very conservative, conservative, moderate, liberal or very liberal. The total of 37% calling themselves conservative today reflects 28% calling themselves "conservative" and 9% "very conservative." The 24% who are liberal includes 18% who are "liberal" and 6% who are "very liberal."

Democrats' Shift to the Left Continues

The expansion in the percentage of liberals over the past five years has been most evident among adults who identify with the Democratic Party, rising from 39% in 2011 to 45% in 2015. Longer-term, the percentage of Democrats calling themselves liberal has climbed 16 percentage points from 29% in 2000, while the percentages who are "moderate" and "conservative" have both declined.

From 2000 to 2003, moderates were the largest ideological group among Democrats, followed by sizable proportions identifying as liberal and conservative. Since 2012, however, liberals have been the largest group, with a sizable moderate component and a significantly smaller conservative component.

Republicans Remain Mostly Conservative

Over the past two decades, Republicans have consistently been a more homogenous party than the Democrats, with the majority calling themselves conservative and most of the rest identifying as moderate. No more than 6% in any year has self-defined as liberal.

The conservative faction within Republicans swelled to 70% or more between 2008 and 2014. While not statistically significant, the drop to 68% in 2015 is nevertheless notable for breaking the pattern and bears watching in 2016.

Independents Still Diverse, but With Dwindling Moderate Faction

Independents are naturally the most diverse of the three main political groups, with the bulk (41%) calling themselves moderate and substantial segments identifying as conservative (32%) or liberal (22%). This has largely been the case since 2000, but some shifts began to occur in 2009. After hitting a low of 18% that year, a steadily rising proportion have identified themselves as liberal, and fewer as moderates, while the percentage of conservatives initially grew from 30% to 36%, but has recently slipped back to 32%.

Bottom Line

The ideological bent of U.S. adults changed little in 2015, although Democrats continued to inch to the left. This continues a significant long-term trend, with a slight increase in Americans favoring the liberal label, mostly at the expense of conservatives. While conservatives still outnumber liberals by a healthy margin in the U.S. population, the gap is narrower than at any point in Gallup's 23-year trend. It is also possible that after several years of heightened conservatism among Republicans and independents, this is moderating somewhat, but it is too early to say for sure.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/188129/conservatives-hang-ideology-lead-thread.aspx

[Ferd Berfel]

34. and today I dread that OBAMA has decided to legitimize Kissinger

I guess ing that part of it is that is that Clinton has stated that Kissinger is a friend and mentor for her (war criminal status aside). So did this obligate Obama to back clintons disgusting position?

Yesterday, the Obama administration did something horrifying.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027820277

[Go Vols]

35. There Is a Moderate Republican in This Race, But She’s Running as a Democrat

Who is the real Democrat — Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton?

from 1932-1976, the Democratic Party as a whole was far more progressive. The issues and approaches advocated today by Bernie Sanders were considered mainstream Democratic ideas by Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson, and even many moderate Republicans. It was common to support strict financial regulation, liberal immigration, social services for the poor, and progressive tax policies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/there-is-a-moderate-republican-in-this-race_b_9704194.html

[Waiting For Everyman]

37. There is too much the general public doesn't know about Hillary.

Elections bring a lot to the surface.

It will filter out and they'll find out eventually, because we have the internet, but it will be too late.

Thanks for the thread and info, Octafish.


And it gets worse. Dated yesterday:

The Obama administration is honoring Henry Kissinger today. It shouldn’t be.
http://www.vox.com/2016/5/9/11640562/kissinger-pentagon-award

[slipslidingaway]

38. knr nt