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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:05 AM May 2016

Hillary supporters launch internet feud with Green Party candidate Jill Stein

Hillary Clinton supporters on the internet entered into an internet war of words on Mothers Day with Green Party presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein.

The feud started when Jill Stein issued a single Twitter comment suggesting Hillary Clinton would not reflect the values of motherhood as president. Dr. Stein explained she considers these values to include a commitment to international law and human rights, and to the idea of health care and child care as basic rights.



Clinton loyalists on Twitter leapt at the chance to feud and issued a barrage of tweets at Dr. Stein, some of which were widely seen as personal attacks, calling her "disgusting" and suggesting she might support far right GOP candidate Donald Trump.



It was widely reported in April that Clinton Super PACS have spent at least $1 million funding a "troll army" intended to protect the candidate's "reputation" online. It's not clear the extent to which paid operators might be engaging with the Green Party candidate on twitter.

The story made headlines on Mothers Day, with some headline writers interpreting Dr. Stein's tweet as a statement about Hillary Clinton's parenting skills.

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Hillary supporters launch internet feud with Green Party candidate Jill Stein (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich May 2016 OP
Coporate Facism arrived, wrapped in a flag and wearing a Ralph Lauren Pantsuit. Katashi_itto May 2016 #1
It Can Happen Here. Wait -- it already has. nt villager May 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #2
Online trolling doesn't pay much. Usually it's junior PR people CoffeeCat May 2016 #13
Who knows, perhaps Hill Trolls would do it for free. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #14
OP title has it backwards. JoePhilly May 2016 #3
Exactly. Thank you. In their world, no matter what the facts may be ... NurseJackie May 2016 #8
No, it's correct. Fawke Em May 2016 #25
LOL That's all you got? savalez May 2016 #42
Hillary attacked Jill Stein? JoePhilly May 2016 #45
Funny, David Brock's paid twitter campaign gets "news coverage" NorthCarolina May 2016 #4
I'm surprised the media woudl do something like that. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #16
Fuck Brock and his minions. Nothing Stein said was remotely disgusting cali May 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #10
I really know nothing about her but those comments are mild cali May 2016 #11
If we said this about your precious Hillary, you'd call us sexist. Fawke Em May 2016 #27
What makes her a POS in your opinion? Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #37
In fact, everything she said was factually-based. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall May 2016 #55
Just an observation: "Clinton Supporters" on the internet are as meaningless as Stein is... brooklynite May 2016 #6
No it actually happened. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #69
Stein will think twice before taking sly pot shots. oasis May 2016 #7
It looks to me like Jill Stein launched the feud and Clinton supporters responded. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #9
Right-wing goons attack Jill Stein. Broward May 2016 #12
Democratic Underground has been transformed into Hate Democrats OutInTheOpen. nt onehandle May 2016 #15
I agree if you are referring to the ongoing attacks on Sanders and supporters, even after rhett o rick May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall May 2016 #56
+1 socialistforpeople May 2016 #66
Disagree ≠ Hate Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #19
Fuck third partiers. Every fucking one of them. nt onehandle May 2016 #38
Now that's not sounding very liberal. Do you think you candidate isn't strong enough to rhett o rick May 2016 #64
why give that woman any air time? WhiteTara May 2016 #20
LOL "That woman" Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #21
so the only reason to give a woman air time is because she's well known? wendylaroux May 2016 #31
Does anyone believe Jill Stein would be a good President? zappaman May 2016 #22
Certainly better than Trump or Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #24
Yep Ned_Devine May 2016 #28
Ayup. Fawke Em May 2016 #29
That wasn't the question. n/t zappaman May 2016 #40
OK. Clarification provided. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #44
yes Fairgo May 2016 #58
Yes. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #53
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers May 2016 #26
Fuck running Third Wayers. Fawke Em May 2016 #30
"Fuck Ralph Nader"...nt ???? whatever floats your boat sid wendylaroux May 2016 #33
If the Democratic Party wasn't veering hard right,... HooptieWagon May 2016 #36
But it is never their fault Mnpaul May 2016 #72
Good. I like it when Democrats FIGHT BACK! nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #32
Thank you BrockBros. HooptieWagon May 2016 #34
Well, Stein launched the first salvo. Beacool May 2016 #35
Jill Stein can fuck off. NT Adrahil May 2016 #39
Thank you! ronnykmarshall May 2016 #52
Jill stein is another in a long line of whiny ultraleft wing do nothing's...she has nothing to offer beachbumbob May 2016 #41
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #46
+1 greatlaurel May 2016 #54
Are they really that stupid, or are they just being deliberately obtuse? nt Zorra May 2016 #43
Zorra—We have a big country. We have a big world. Plenty of people are, I shall say, fools. CobaltBlue May 2016 #49
Since we are always told that internet byplay must be an undercover op Starry Messenger May 2016 #47
BTW: If Hillary voters [or hired associates] are doing this…it doesn't speak optimistically for HRC. CobaltBlue May 2016 #48
Jill Stein Is A Vote-Splitting Third Party Candidate Vogon_Glory May 2016 #50
Good ronnykmarshall May 2016 #51
How does the OP not violate the TOS??? Gomez163 May 2016 #57
It doesn't. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #59
greens need to disband and just... artyteacher May 2016 #60
Jill Stein launched the feud with ad hom attack against Hillary. yellowcanine May 2016 #61
More like Jill started in on Hillary and people challenged her on it. hrmjustin May 2016 #62
Check again it sounded like she was just talking about the values Hillary will bring to the job Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #67
No i read it and my point still stands. If a candidate goes after another candidate they know there hrmjustin May 2016 #68
Social media 101: limit your smack talk to those in your own league. oasis May 2016 #63
Jill thanks the BrockBros for the free publicity. HooptieWagon May 2016 #65
I liked Stein's comments, for the following reason dreamnightwind May 2016 #70
Wow that's a really thoughtful and insightful comment Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #71

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
13. Online trolling doesn't pay much. Usually it's junior PR people
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

who engage in these sleazy tactics, that have been formally declared unprofessional and unethical by the Public Relations Society of America.

A million dollars could probably purchase you a large gaggle of junior flacks.

(As a PR professional, I use the term "flack" lovingly. However, I would never whore myself out as an internet troll, that's for sure).

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
3. OP title has it backwards.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

Jill Stein launched the feud. Clinton supporters are fighting back.

Big difference.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Exactly. Thank you. In their world, no matter what the facts may be ...
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

... they always view Hillary (or her campaign, or her supporters) as being the aggressors against some poor helpless misunderstood victims. :eye:

GMAFB! Such drama!




savalez

(3,517 posts)
42. LOL That's all you got?
Mon May 9, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016
Hillary's actions start a lot of this crap. She should "cut it out."


No proof or anything that Stein didn't start this?

"She should "cut it out."?

You fail debating 101 big time.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
4. Funny, David Brock's paid twitter campaign gets "news coverage"
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

but #DropOutHillary trending for two days gets no mention.

Response to cali (Reply #5)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. I really know nothing about her but those comments are mild
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

Fuck asswipe swine Hillman, Brock. He is really dog shit bad.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
27. If we said this about your precious Hillary, you'd call us sexist.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

Seriously, you're advocating we fuck her cause she's a woman?

Sauce....


 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
17. In fact, everything she said was factually-based.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

And the Brocksuckers attacking her on Twitter can go fuck themselves...

Response to cali (Reply #5)

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
6. Just an observation: "Clinton Supporters" on the internet are as meaningless as Stein is...
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

Not a terribly gripping news story

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. I agree if you are referring to the ongoing attacks on Sanders and supporters, even after
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:48 AM
May 2016

the race is supposedly won.

Response to rhett o rick (Reply #18)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
64. Now that's not sounding very liberal. Do you think you candidate isn't strong enough to
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

win an election if a third party is involved? Do you want to ban third parties? Maybe just have one party.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
29. Ayup.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

Hillary supporters seem to be angry their's isn't the only vagina in this race and that this one may cause their's to lose in the general.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
44. OK. Clarification provided.
Mon May 9, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

I do think Jill Stein would make a good president and a better one than either Trump or Hillary.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
36. If the Democratic Party wasn't veering hard right,...
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

...the Green Party wouldn't be a problem now, would it?
Jill Stein got .5% of the vote in 2012... What do you think she'll get this Nov? What does that tell you about the direction of the DNC establishment?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
34. Thank you BrockBros.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

Now, a few hundred thousand more people know who Jill Stein is. Nice to know the millions paid to David Brock are being spent giving free publicity to the Green Party candidate. This is the kind of poor decision-making and incompetence we can expect from a Clinton Administration.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
41. Jill stein is another in a long line of whiny ultraleft wing do nothing's...she has nothing to offer
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

Except jumping up and down and saying look at me...look at me

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
47. Since we are always told that internet byplay must be an undercover op
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

I'll take a page out of that book, and assume these are all Sanders' supporters.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
50. Jill Stein Is A Vote-Splitting Third Party Candidate
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

Jill Stein is a vote-splitting third-party candidate, much like "Saint" Ralph was back in 2000. Despite what so many of Bernie's fan-boys and fan-girls may think, that makes Stein a legitimate target for genuine, partisan Democrats.


🐴

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
61. Jill Stein launched the feud with ad hom attack against Hillary.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

Suggesting Hillary does not have the values of a mother is a bit over the line, imo.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
68. No i read it and my point still stands. If a candidate goes after another candidate they know there
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

will be a response. She just wants attention.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
65. Jill thanks the BrockBros for the free publicity.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Hopefully Yall keep attacking her...makes Hillary look desparate and Stein more credible.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
70. I liked Stein's comments, for the following reason
Tue May 10, 2016, 03:03 AM
May 2016

For decades now, I've been listening to women say how if women ran things, the world would be a better place, run with compassion, kindness, nurturing, diplomacy, non-aggression, and generally laying the opposite of all of the above on men and the patriarchy.

To that, I say bring it on! I'd be thrilled to live in such a world.

Hillary in no way embodies the promise of a less militant more nurturing leadership. I'd say the same for many women in power. I won't get into all of the issues involved with that, there are many, from having to conform to system norms to gain power, to some of the problems being human nature as much as they are male nature.

No matter the reason, at least not for purposes of this discussion. The sad reality is that electing a Margaret Thatcher, a Condoleeza Rice, a Claire McCaskill, a Hillary Clinton, a Sarah Palin, a Carly Fiorina, does nothing towards reaching those goals.

We not only have to elect or promote women to positions of power, we have to elect or promote the RIGHT women to positions of power. Jill Stein is such a woman. An up-and-comer is Seattle's Kshama Sawant (can't be POTUS, foreign-born). Elizabeth Warren (good on Wall St. issues, I need more convincing on other issues). Plenty of others too.

Hillary Clinton is not one of these women, and never will be. She has taken the other road, seeking full membership in and ideological solidarity with the forces that are the fundamental problem in our nation and our world.

Thank you Jill Stein for bringing this to the attention of many who would otherwise not have thought about it.

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