2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary supporters launch internet feud with Green Party candidate Jill Stein
Hillary Clinton supporters on the internet entered into an internet war of words on Mothers Day with Green Party presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein.
The feud started when Jill Stein issued a single Twitter comment suggesting Hillary Clinton would not reflect the values of motherhood as president. Dr. Stein explained she considers these values to include a commitment to international law and human rights, and to the idea of health care and child care as basic rights.
Clinton loyalists on Twitter leapt at the chance to feud and issued a barrage of tweets at Dr. Stein, some of which were widely seen as personal attacks, calling her "disgusting" and suggesting she might support far right GOP candidate Donald Trump.
It was widely reported in April that Clinton Super PACS have spent at least $1 million funding a "troll army" intended to protect the candidate's "reputation" online. It's not clear the extent to which paid operators might be engaging with the Green Party candidate on twitter.
The story made headlines on Mothers Day, with some headline writers interpreting Dr. Stein's tweet as a statement about Hillary Clinton's parenting skills.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)
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CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)who engage in these sleazy tactics, that have been formally declared unprofessional and unethical by the Public Relations Society of America.
A million dollars could probably purchase you a large gaggle of junior flacks.
(As a PR professional, I use the term "flack" lovingly. However, I would never whore myself out as an internet troll, that's for sure).
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Jill Stein launched the feud. Clinton supporters are fighting back.
Big difference.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... they always view Hillary (or her campaign, or her supporters) as being the aggressors against some poor helpless misunderstood victims. :eye:
GMAFB! Such drama!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Hillary's actions start a lot of this crap. She should "cut it out."
savalez
(3,517 posts)No proof or anything that Stein didn't start this?
"She should "cut it out."?
You fail debating 101 big time.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)but #DropOutHillary trending for two days gets no mention.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...said no rational person, ever.
cali
(114,904 posts)Response to cali (Reply #5)
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cali
(114,904 posts)Fuck asswipe swine Hillman, Brock. He is really dog shit bad.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Seriously, you're advocating we fuck her cause she's a woman?
Sauce....
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Seriously?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And the Brocksuckers attacking her on Twitter can go fuck themselves...
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brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Not a terribly gripping news story
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)It was widely remarked upon.
See also "the internet SAVAGES Jill Stein"
oasis
(49,376 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the race is supposedly won.
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socialistforpeople
(18 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Disagree =/= Hate
onehandle
(51,122 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)win an election if a third party is involved? Do you want to ban third parties? Maybe just have one party.
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)No one even knows who she is.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)I laughed because pictured your comment coming from Bill Clinton with a finger wag.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Anyone?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Hillary supporters seem to be angry their's isn't the only vagina in this race and that this one may cause their's to lose in the general.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I do think Jill Stein would make a good president and a better one than either Trump or Hillary.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)If you wouldn't do that, you wouldn't lose liberals to the Green Party.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...the Green Party wouldn't be a problem now, would it?
Jill Stein got .5% of the vote in 2012... What do you think she'll get this Nov? What does that tell you about the direction of the DNC establishment?
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)must blame someone else, just like the Repupublicans
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Now, a few hundred thousand more people know who Jill Stein is. Nice to know the millions paid to David Brock are being spent giving free publicity to the Green Party candidate. This is the kind of poor decision-making and incompetence we can expect from a Clinton Administration.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Hillary's supporters are just defending their candidate.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Except jumping up and down and saying look at me...look at me
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Yep.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'll take a page out of that book, and assume these are all Sanders' supporters.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Jill Stein is a vote-splitting third-party candidate, much like "Saint" Ralph was back in 2000. Despite what so many of Bernie's fan-boys and fan-girls may think, that makes Stein a legitimate target for genuine, partisan Democrats.
🐴
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)and I replied to her as well. This "paid troll army" is a load of shit.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)read up on it
artyteacher
(598 posts)Endorse Hillary. They've enabled enough evil.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Suggesting Hillary does not have the values of a mother is a bit over the line, imo.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)She is no martyr or hero.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)will be a response. She just wants attention.
oasis
(49,376 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Hopefully Yall keep attacking her...makes Hillary look desparate and Stein more credible.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)For decades now, I've been listening to women say how if women ran things, the world would be a better place, run with compassion, kindness, nurturing, diplomacy, non-aggression, and generally laying the opposite of all of the above on men and the patriarchy.
To that, I say bring it on! I'd be thrilled to live in such a world.
Hillary in no way embodies the promise of a less militant more nurturing leadership. I'd say the same for many women in power. I won't get into all of the issues involved with that, there are many, from having to conform to system norms to gain power, to some of the problems being human nature as much as they are male nature.
No matter the reason, at least not for purposes of this discussion. The sad reality is that electing a Margaret Thatcher, a Condoleeza Rice, a Claire McCaskill, a Hillary Clinton, a Sarah Palin, a Carly Fiorina, does nothing towards reaching those goals.
We not only have to elect or promote women to positions of power, we have to elect or promote the RIGHT women to positions of power. Jill Stein is such a woman. An up-and-comer is Seattle's Kshama Sawant (can't be POTUS, foreign-born). Elizabeth Warren (good on Wall St. issues, I need more convincing on other issues). Plenty of others too.
Hillary Clinton is not one of these women, and never will be. She has taken the other road, seeking full membership in and ideological solidarity with the forces that are the fundamental problem in our nation and our world.
Thank you Jill Stein for bringing this to the attention of many who would otherwise not have thought about it.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)You actually explained the issue.