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I'm listening to Bob Cesca say a Clinton/Sanders ticket (Original Post) mountain grammy May 2016 OP
No it would not Demsrule86 May 2016 #1
You're hilarious... TCJ70 May 2016 #3
"A nothing state"? That kind of regional prejudice is usually practiced by conservatives. arcane1 May 2016 #10
It has three electoral votes and is not a swing state KingFlorez May 2016 #17
Kind of like Delaware, eh? Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #30
Certainly Demsrule86 May 2016 #21
Mmmm trollicious! whatchamacallit May 2016 #18
Hey I would never post trash about any Democrat including Bernie or any member of his family Demsrule86 May 2016 #20
Roh roh. You mean that socialist tag can stick? tonyt53 May 2016 #27
Projection: Not just for movie theaters anymore. nt villager May 2016 #29
Care to expound? Lazy Daisy May 2016 #40
not gonna happen. MBS May 2016 #52
I am not too thrilled with this idea. hrmjustin May 2016 #2
I don't think that'll happen... TCJ70 May 2016 #4
I very much doubt this would ever happen Sheepshank May 2016 #5
funny how the people not in the loop are calling the ticket oldandhappy May 2016 #6
Bernie's not qualified. nt LexVegas May 2016 #7
If you mean to say he's not qualified to be part of Hill's corporate tool administration whatchamacallit May 2016 #19
He's as qualified as Biden, and more qualified than Obama was. TransitJohn May 2016 #56
No. Putting an anti-corruption activist on the same ticket as a corrupt politician is absurd. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #8
Not if you think the top of the ticket is not going to be able to serve 4 years. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #49
No way. The owners of the Democratic party hate Bernie Sanders with a burning passion. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #9
exactly dana_b May 2016 #57
Clinton/Warren would be stronger and make Bernie irrelevant BeyondGeography May 2016 #11
That would be a strong ticket, and my choice.. mountain grammy May 2016 #34
VP's are mostly irrelevant, also-rans for VP even more so BeyondGeography May 2016 #35
Bernie wasn't irrelevant before Lazy Daisy May 2016 #42
That is also a losing ticket. Hiraeth May 2016 #55
No, no, no KingFlorez May 2016 #12
Good God, most voters have brains, he did not vote against Amber Alert. At all. That's bull. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #53
No, clinton needs to earn the Presidency herself notadmblnd May 2016 #13
There is no state on the map that Sanders can tip blue that she isn't fine in already Tarc May 2016 #14
I am for any ticket that wins but the advanced age of both candidates should give anybody pause. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #15
Oh hell no. nt oasis May 2016 #16
Sanders as VP, in a Clinton Administration, would be neutralized. Maedhros May 2016 #22
Wouldn't make sense, neither would a Sanders/Clinton ticket nt Joob May 2016 #23
Sanders has far too much integrity SheilaT May 2016 #24
*shudder* Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #25
Hillary would never go for that -- under any circumstances. KPN May 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #28
mountain grammy—I distrust Bob Cesca, Chez Pazienza, and ‘Daily Banter’ CobaltBlue May 2016 #31
Oh, I agree. Just wondered what Democrats thought about this idea. mountain grammy May 2016 #33
Sorry. Hillary does not get to use Bernie to jillan May 2016 #32
He sees through her. He wouldn't do it. senz May 2016 #45
Unlikey that ticket wins all 50 states bigwillq May 2016 #36
Fresh spring water and Flint, MI water don't mix. pdsimdars May 2016 #37
Depends...who's Bob Cesca? brooklynite May 2016 #38
Probably another person who wants to get clicks lovemydog May 2016 #39
Fair enough, but how does Hillary winning the primaries of mountain grammy May 2016 #41
I'm not claiming a 50 State landslide... brooklynite May 2016 #43
I hope you're right. mountain grammy May 2016 #44
re: " the Southern States aren't needed for an EV win" thesquanderer May 2016 #50
He's a Hillary supporter and down the middle Party regular. He was for example harshly critical of Bluenorthwest May 2016 #58
Never happen in a million years Blue_Tires May 2016 #46
YES! YES! YES! Bernie4VP May 2016 #47
I want whatever he is having nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #48
Well then, if Bob said it.......it must be true. yellowcanine May 2016 #51
I disagree. That is a losing ticket. Hiraeth May 2016 #54
Both of these candidates will be working together to defeat the GOP's evil clowns. Orsino May 2016 #59

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
3. You're hilarious...
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

...Bernie has serious baggage. Are you suggesting Hillary doesn't? Or that it doesn't compare?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
10. "A nothing state"? That kind of regional prejudice is usually practiced by conservatives.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

Are you sure you're on the correct site? Was it a nothing state when Howard Dean was running?

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
17. It has three electoral votes and is not a swing state
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

That means it doesn't offer enough to put Sanders on the ticket. It's not going to go Republican without Sanders on the ticket.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
21. Certainly
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:25 PM
May 2016

While Vermont may be a wonderful state, it is not significant in terms of the electoral college. We need to pick a candidate that can give us an advantage. I don't think Bernie or Vermont can do that. I want to beat Trump period. If I thought Bernie would help, I would be all for it. But he wouldn't.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
20. Hey I would never post trash about any Democrat including Bernie or any member of his family
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

But I have seen it...it is out there. There is probably more too. We always knew the GOP had a reason for wanting Bernie as the Dem. Nominee. I don't think he would help her...so say what you want. I thought he was too pure anyway.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
40. Care to expound?
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:57 PM
May 2016

Exactly what is his baggage? Not that I want Bernie to be Hillary's VP, but your statement sounds like pure crap just for the sake of crappiness.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
52. not gonna happen.
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:20 AM
May 2016

I don't think it would be an effective partnership, either in the election or in the White House. This says nothing negative about either one, but it just wouldn't work.

They both have something to contribute to the country, but I can't see them working well together as long-time close associates, which is what the best Pres/VP partnerships require.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
4. I don't think that'll happen...
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:04 PM
May 2016

...and even if it did, I wouldn't want Clinton at the top. She'd still be making the final calls on things and she hasn't shown good judgement over the years (at least not the first time around...give her 10-15 years and she usually comes around).

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
19. If you mean to say he's not qualified to be part of Hill's corporate tool administration
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

I'd have to agree.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
56. He's as qualified as Biden, and more qualified than Obama was.
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Biden had a bit more Congressional experience.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
57. exactly
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

they would much rather see another neocon/pro war/free trade loving conservative in it with her.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
34. That would be a strong ticket, and my choice..
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

but Bernie Sanders will never be irrelevant. You are sadly mistaken about that.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. Good God, most voters have brains, he did not vote against Amber Alert. At all. That's bull.
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

And the bill you speak of, which had as one part the creation of a national coordination team for the already existing Amber Alerts got a no vote from Bernie and from John Lewis, Maxine Waters, Bobby Scott, Barney Frank and a wide variety of progressive minority Congress people.
Why do you cast shade on John Lewis? Why do you create suspicion around that vote? What motivates you to do such things?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. I am for any ticket that wins but the advanced age of both candidates should give anybody pause.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

I am for any ticket that wins but the advanced age of both candidates together should give anybody pause. The older you are the more likely you are to have an adverse medical event. This is straightforward actuarial stuff.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
24. Sanders has far too much integrity
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

(a word Hillary should get acquainted with) to pair himself with her lying dishonesty.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
26. Hillary would never go for that -- under any circumstances.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

I doubt Bernie would either, but for more admirable reasons.

Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
33. Oh, I agree. Just wondered what Democrats thought about this idea.
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:11 PM
May 2016

I think it's interesting, maybe unite the party, but not according to comments here. I honestly think Hillary could lose to Trump, and, believe me, I hate to say that.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
32. Sorry. Hillary does not get to use Bernie to
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

help her win over the under 45 yo vote OR dem leaning independents.

She needs to do that on her own.

I'd be very disappointed in Bernie if he agreed to that.

brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
38. Depends...who's Bob Cesca?
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

As to your 50 State dream, how does Sanders winning a Democratic Caucus in AK, OK, NE, MT, UT, ND, SD...and LOSING Democratic Primaries in SC, GA, MS, AL, LA and TX get you 50 States?

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
39. Probably another person who wants to get clicks
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

by posting provocative fantasy.

Good question you pose. The answer of course is, it doesn't.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
41. Fair enough, but how does Hillary winning the primaries of
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

SC, GA, MS, AL, LA and TX get Democrats any electoral votes from those states in the GE? Hillary will lose those states flat out, and several more. So, what's your point?

brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
43. I'm not claiming a 50 State landslide...
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

...and the Southern States aren't needed for an EV win (see: 2008, 2012).

As it is, Clinton appears to be putting AZ and GA into play, and the HB2 debalce could flip NC.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
50. re: " the Southern States aren't needed for an EV win"
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

Careful. With logical statements like that, someone might accuse you of calling southern states, southern voters, or AA voters irrelevant.

But I agree, Clinton/Sanders is not a path to a 50 state victory. But it could help Clinton win more states. Voters who are otherwise either so unmotivated by the options that they stay home OR are so oriented toward anti-establishment that they reluctantly swing to Trump over Clinton may actually "hold their noses" and vote Clinton if Sanders is on the ticket. Sanders' die-hard supporters will come out to vote for him in the only way they can, and that could swing some states to her. Possibly more than any other "strategic" pick.

And it's not a cynical or "sell-out" move for Bernie either, as some suggest. As I said in one of the many related threads, he could get some concessions from her in exchange for being on the ticket, so it could actually be a policy victory as well. Better to get something than nothing. And if Hillary ever has to step down, he becomes President. Assuming he does not get the nomination, it's the only shot he's got.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
58. He's a Hillary supporter and down the middle Party regular. He was for example harshly critical of
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

Dan Choi and other LGBT who dared to challenge Obama policy. I generally can't stand him and I think this ticket is not very logical but I also think he's right, it would cause a huge landslide for the Democratic ticket.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
46. Never happen in a million years
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:28 PM
May 2016

the Berniestans would turn against Sanders in a split-second if he made any deal with Hillary.

Bernie4VP

(2 posts)
47. YES! YES! YES!
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:11 AM
May 2016

A Hillary/Bernie ticket would reunite the party! Bernie on the ticket would reassure his followers that she is serious about moving left, and save us from the nightmare of a Trump presidency; He's got the nomination in the bag, so it's real now! We have to stop kidding ourselves that it's going to be someone like Ted Cruz

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
48. I want whatever he is having
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:19 AM
May 2016

Clinton will go for a much younger VEEP from a swing state. She needs to build a wall, if she wants to win. And I will add, a neo liberal Why the Castro brothers keep getting floated. I am almost betting somebody from the Mid West.

In another reality this would be a unity ticket, that is not the way the Clintons think.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
59. Both of these candidates will be working together to defeat the GOP's evil clowns.
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

Not by 50 states, but the outlook is good.

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