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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 03:53 AM May 2016

Media Silent as Bernie Sanders Packs California Stadium Beyond Capacity

Despite the mainstream media’s repeated assertions that the Bernie Sanders movement is now a thing of the past, enthusiasm from his base only seems to be growing, based on the overwhelming number of people who flocked to his rally in Sacramento this Monday night.

Supporters lined up for over four hours to see Senator Sanders outside Bonney Field — some of them even longer. The following video by Our Voice Media shows the massive scope of the line, as the videographers take several minutes to drive from one end of the line to the other.

#BernieinSacremento

(Photos at link)

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-sacramento-california/

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Media Silent as Bernie Sanders Packs California Stadium Beyond Capacity (Original Post) Atman May 2016 OP
Cool. Meanwhile the Former First Lady... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #1
Neither event got much coverage oberliner May 2016 #5
The media is guilty of journalistic malptactice Armstead May 2016 #28
They also are ignoring the fact that Bernie are Hillary are actually talking about issues oberliner May 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #7
"My candidate?" Atman May 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #17
Who cares? Democrats care. Oregon has ballots out right now, so getting the votes in is a goal Bluenorthwest May 2016 #20
And all the new polls out today show Sanders beating Trump by much wider margins. Atman May 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #43
I want an open candidate who I can trust who trusts me by telling the truth. she doesnt roguevalley May 2016 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #72
Early voting has started in CA as well. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #76
on purpose is code for no one comes roguevalley May 2016 #63
Wait... that's my garage! I thought I chased them out of there... yourpaljoey May 2016 #40
What a crowd! pacalo May 2016 #61
Blatant lie. Agschmid May 2016 #80
It is really unbelievable that she is winning with such sad looking events she has. cui bono May 2016 #88
I'm starting to agree. If ever the voting machine issue needs to be investigated, now is the time. reformist2 May 2016 #91
He no longer has a chance of winning the nomination. And they fully covered his huge NY rallies, pnwmom May 2016 #2
So this kind of crowd isn't news? Atman May 2016 #3
There is NO "media silence" about the rally. Just go to Google News and type in: pnwmom May 2016 #4
And poor Trumpo isn't treated right by the media either, with his crowds! Arneoker May 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #18
You contribute this level of smearing rhetoric while others contribute time and energy into our Bluenorthwest May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #79
"...privileged white people..." NewImproved Deal May 2016 #53
PRIVILEGED WHITE PEOPLE? XemaSab May 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #78
PoCs other than black people don't count? XemaSab May 2016 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #89
I WAS THERE XemaSab May 2016 #96
Two things.... Adrahil May 2016 #27
Structurally CA is different. LeftyMom May 2016 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #6
Can you at least try to make your snarks more than the usual rote dribble? At least entertaining? Katashi_itto May 2016 #32
One of Sanders' very best stump speeches! The crowd really roared when... Peace Patriot May 2016 #8
Yes we're so worried Arneoker May 2016 #12
So far not one serious reply from a Hillary supporter Atman May 2016 #13
Some from Yahoo, others from You-Tube..... Bluenorthwest May 2016 #23
Do they ever have anything other than snark and sarcasm? pdsimdars May 2016 #24
Millions more votes and about 300 more delegates? Codeine May 2016 #34
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #65
Can Bernie Sanders Still Win? 2016 Delegate Count Does Not Look Good For Vermont Senator Surya Gayatri May 2016 #14
+1 LWolf May 2016 #31
California WILL put Sanders over the top! CountAllVotes May 2016 #51
C'mon ,California. Sky Masterson May 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #19
Thanks Demsrule86 May 2016 #26
+1 oasis May 2016 #36
You can find Misogyny where it aint Sky Masterson May 2016 #58
they have nothing else sky roguevalley May 2016 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Surya Gayatri May 2016 #15
The BS campaign is edging ever closer to irrelevance with every new primary. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #16
Bernie has officially been disappeared by the media. Vinca May 2016 #21
The story is not the horse race between Clinton and Trump oberliner May 2016 #45
It's leaning Trump, but in recent days there has been increasing coverage about Vinca May 2016 #47
Right but everything is through the Trump prism oberliner May 2016 #48
^^^THIS! Atman May 2016 #54
He won't be the nominee Demsrule86 May 2016 #25
Are they...still...bragging about big rallies? workinclasszero May 2016 #29
IMO. that's so any vote-tampering won't look as obvious. n/t djean111 May 2016 #30
The number of "BERNIE HAS YUUUUUUGE RALLY!" threads on the DU Tarc May 2016 #33
Hillary's rallies are way better! workinclasszero May 2016 #38
He did the same thing here in Indiana. The event in Lafayette was sold out minutes B Calm May 2016 #37
And no matter how many line up to see Bernie, Hillary will be + or - 5 points in Cali. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #39
she will lose. just wait. my Cally will go for bernie roguevalley May 2016 #67
He may win by a bit. Codeine May 2016 #70
As they should be. He has lost. No matter what his mouth spouts. boston bean May 2016 #41
There's nothing newsworthy about that. Nobody cares. NurseJackie May 2016 #42
3/4ths of all the post are hidden, boy I love that ignore button:) litlbilly May 2016 #46
+1 Zorra May 2016 #50
+1 CountAllVotes May 2016 #52
I suppose living in a #BernieBubble is preferable to having to deal with facts and reality n/t SFnomad May 2016 #55
They didn't see that :) Agschmid May 2016 #81
You did, so it was worth it SFnomad May 2016 #86
As it has been throughout Bernie's entire campaign amborin May 2016 #49
"Media Silent as Bernie Sanders Packs California Stadium Beyond Capacity" Blue_Tires May 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #77
K&R dchill May 2016 #57
Someone posted this lovely picture of Hillary's rally in California pdsimdars May 2016 #59
Blatant lie. Agschmid May 2016 #82
Here's a nice picture of Bernie's rally in Sacramento pdsimdars May 2016 #60
That is beautiful. nt. polly7 May 2016 #69
A friend of mine went and took pictures, she posted them on FB. Starry Messenger May 2016 #62
kr Norrin Radd May 2016 #68
California is past due to have its say Babel_17 May 2016 #71
Yes we are but I'm kind of glad dana_b May 2016 #92
This is why the rallies don't matter...it's all about the math (again) anotherproletariat May 2016 #74
Excellent point! nt eastwestdem May 2016 #87
I am somewhat surprised and glad that Sanders has maintained so much momentum. PufPuf23 May 2016 #75
I agree dana_b May 2016 #93
K&R emsimon33 May 2016 #84
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #90
125k were disenfranchised dana_b May 2016 #94
Wouldn't those voters been split relatively evenly between Hillary and Bernie supporters? oberliner May 2016 #95
 

NewImproved Deal

(534 posts)
1. Cool. Meanwhile the Former First Lady...
Tue May 10, 2016, 03:59 AM
May 2016

...draws a group into 1/4 of a Gymnasium and reaps Headlines.

[link:|

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. Neither event got much coverage
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:19 AM
May 2016

The vast majority of election coverage over the past two days has been about Trump. Especially with respect to his "feud" with Paul Ryan.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
28. The media is guilty of journalistic malptactice
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

Whether or not Sanders actually wins the nomination, the continuing strength of his support despite all odds-- and the REASONS for that -- is a news story with major implications.

Not as "reality show interesting" as how awful Trump is to women or his peeing contest with Ryan, but just as important to the larger political picture and future of the nation.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
44. They also are ignoring the fact that Bernie are Hillary are actually talking about issues
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

And exclusively covering the rantings and ravings of Trump.

Ironic moment - some reporter asked Trump why he is talking about Bill Clinton's affairs rather than actual issues.

Maybe the press should press Trump on issues instead of asking inane questions like the above.

A CNN reporter asked Trump a question and Trump got mad and said he should congratulate him first for winning and basically bullied the reporter into doing so (and apologizing).

It is insane.

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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Who cares? Democrats care. Oregon has ballots out right now, so getting the votes in is a goal
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:13 AM
May 2016

for all candidates, not just Bernie and Hillary but all the other Democrats as well. CA is our largest State and they are gearing up for their Primary next month. This means that in these and other States, hundreds of Democratic volunteers are working hard to get high turnout and build excitement for November victories.

I understand this confuses the jaded, apathetic East Coast where they are proud of NY's 29% turnout but here we expect more than twice that result, even in midterms. We put effort into this. This confounds the East where they don't really care if there is turn out or turn off or turn downs. They just don't care. We do.

So who cares? Democrats care, actively. Those who throw shade and seek to lower the interest in ongoing Democratic elections serve themselves and not the Democratic Party.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
35. And all the new polls out today show Sanders beating Trump by much wider margins.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

Trump and Clinton are frighteningly close. So let's not nominate the guy who has a better chance of beating the orange lunatic.

Thanks for your the hard work Californians are putting in! The East Coaster still went to the polls and made his voice heard.

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
76. Early voting has started in CA as well.
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:48 PM
May 2016

I am toying with going myself... to the registrar. Mostly the day of the election it is hard to vote and cover it

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
40. Wait... that's my garage! I thought I chased them out of there...
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

... forgot to lock the damn door, is what.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
88. It is really unbelievable that she is winning with such sad looking events she has.
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:27 AM
May 2016

No really, it is unbelievable. Really.

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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
91. I'm starting to agree. If ever the voting machine issue needs to be investigated, now is the time.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:47 AM
May 2016

Based on dreaded "anecdotal" evidence - crowd sizes, signs, bumper stickers, what friends and co-workers are saying - I'd say Bernie has about 65% support, Hillary 35%. If they find out that the voting machines have been flipping the vote totals for Bernie or Hillary, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. He no longer has a chance of winning the nomination. And they fully covered his huge NY rallies,
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:07 AM
May 2016

which didn't lead translate to a huge win in NY. Or any win.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
4. There is NO "media silence" about the rally. Just go to Google News and type in:
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:16 AM
May 2016

"Bernie Sanders Sacramento rally"

Result: LOTS of news stories from mainstream media.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
10. And poor Trumpo isn't treated right by the media either, with his crowds!
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:42 AM
May 2016

He tells us so! And Chris Cuomo didn't congratulate him nicely for his becoming the presumptive Republican nominee!

When, oh when, will the media start paying attention to the important things!

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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. You contribute this level of smearing rhetoric while others contribute time and energy into our
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:18 AM
May 2016

ongoing Democratic primary process. I favor those who work to make high turnout for all our candidates, up and down ticket. I don't favor these efforts to denigrate their efforts nor to dilute interest in Democratic politics.

Hillary's campaign which you say you support, is busily trying to get volunteers to do the work, as is Bernie's and the campaigns of other Democrats. I support their efforts. You should too.

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NewImproved Deal

(534 posts)
53. "...privileged white people..."
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

Racism much? When did gratuitous white-bashing become not only acceptable but fashionable with the Rainbow Oligarchy crowd?

Here's your "Privilege":

[link:|

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
73. PRIVILEGED WHITE PEOPLE?
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:41 PM
May 2016

I was there in Sacto last night and I'd guess under 60% of the crowd was white.

It was one of the most ethnically diverse crowds I've ever been in, with black, white, Latino, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, and every mixture thereof. There were older people, children, gay, straight....

EVERYONE.

But that doesn't fit with your narrative, right?

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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
27. Two things....
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:35 AM
May 2016

1. He no longer has a viable path to the nomination. You will see that even tonight in WV, he will fall well short of the 30+ point victory he needs to be on track to win the nomination.

2. Big crowds are visually impressive, but don't correlate with winning. Bernie had record setting crowds in New York.... and lost by a wide margin.

But even given all that, I heard about Bernie's rally not once, not twice, but three times on various news outlets this morning.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
83. Structurally CA is different.
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:31 AM
May 2016

The NY primary system is an unholy mess by all accounts. CA? It's easy to vote here, really voter-friendly laws, we have a semi-open primary. And as a resident of the area (I've even worked the polling place closest to that venue) I can assure you that youth turnout is real and enthused.

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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
32. Can you at least try to make your snarks more than the usual rote dribble? At least entertaining?
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:39 AM
May 2016

I mean it's easy to envision the drool splashing on your keyboard, as you wheezily, laboriously pound every keystroke in between bouts of sucking on O2 and running on high octane hate.


But that's not a fun picture.



Well maybe it is. But no matter get with the program!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
8. One of Sanders' very best stump speeches! The crowd really roared when...
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:36 AM
May 2016

...he talked about the impacts of climate change on California! It's not only the drought. The ocean is sick and everybody here knows it.

Sanders is the only major political figure who talks about our MORAL responsibility to leave a healthy and habitable planet for future generations. And he is the only presidential candidate who will actually try to do that.

This was one of the most enthusiastic crowds I've heard--and they've all been pretty raucous. I heard the first half of his speech live on KFBK radio-Sacramento, on my commute home. So thrilling to have Sanders here in my home state, and to, at long last, be able to cast a meaningful vote in the primary. California can put Sanders over the top!

I notice that the Clinton supporters are worried enough to throw snide our way. Interesting, huh?

GO, BERNIE! GO, CALIFORNIA! DO IT, MY BELOVED NATIVE STATE! DO IT!

Arneoker

(375 posts)
12. Yes we're so worried
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:44 AM
May 2016

When you make these absolutely compelling cases! Like who Hillary hugs and stuff like that!

Atman

(31,464 posts)
13. So far not one serious reply from a Hillary supporter
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:45 AM
May 2016

Just snark and sarcasm. They must have lost their way from the Yahoo! Comments section.

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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. Can Bernie Sanders Still Win? 2016 Delegate Count Does Not Look Good For Vermont Senator
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:53 AM
May 2016

If we're looking at overall delegates — pledged and super — Sanders stands at 1,400 and Clinton at 2,202. That means the Vermont senator needs 983 more delegates to reach the magic number and Clinton needs just 181.

Using a combination of delegates, because it's likely that both candidates will need to do so, Clinton must win about 19 percent of the remaining delegates and Sanders must win about 81 percent of them to reach 2,383, according to an analysis from NBC News.


http://www.ibtimes.com/can-bernie-sanders-still-win-2016-delegate-count-does-not-look-good-vermont-senator-2363905

Do you seriously think the Bern is going to win CA by 81%? Dreams die hard...

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
11. C'mon ,California.
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:44 AM
May 2016

The world needs you to stop the Neocon queen of increments.
Save us, Cali-wan. You're our only hope.

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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
16. The BS campaign is edging ever closer to irrelevance with every new primary.
Tue May 10, 2016, 06:03 AM
May 2016

He's already a second-tier player. The real action is elsewhere.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
21. Bernie has officially been disappeared by the media.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:15 AM
May 2016

They need ratings for ad buys and the story is the horse race between Clinton and Trump. Will the Donald "go there?" Will Bubba snap and go nuts when he does? Will the Bushes campaign for a Democrat? Tune in and see. (As for policy, the media doesn't especially care what any of them are for or against.)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
45. The story is not the horse race between Clinton and Trump
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
May 2016

In fact, Clinton is getting barely any coverage at all.

It has been literally nothing but Trump. His feud with Paul Ryan. His remarks about taxes. His remarks about the minimum wage. How the Republican will and won't rally together.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
47. It's leaning Trump, but in recent days there has been increasing coverage about
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

the emails, Bill's philandering and anything else that will play well in the soap opera masquerading as journalism.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. Right but everything is through the Trump prism
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

Last edited Tue May 10, 2016, 02:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Reporters are talking about Bill's affairs because Trump brought it up.

No news outlet has covered the actual substance of the positions on issues of either of the Democratic candidates, for instance.

Trump is driving all the coverage - and he doesn't even need to appear on the shows, just phone it in (literally).

Atman

(31,464 posts)
54. ^^^THIS!
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

No media outlet gave a shit about this thirty year old news until Donald Trump brought it up again. The used car salesman...this is the car your grandma only drove on Sunday on the way to church.

I can't believe people buy into this shit. Oh, wait...yes I can. America is fucking stupid.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
25. He won't be the nominee
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:32 AM
May 2016

Thus, what should they say...wow Bernie got 40,000 people or whatever the number is but can't get the millions of votes he needs? He draws large crowds but they do not translate into votes.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
33. The number of "BERNIE HAS YUUUUUUGE RALLY!" threads on the DU
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:41 AM
May 2016

numbers in the hundreds as well, I'm, sure.

As we've seen time and time again, not many of them actually show up to vote.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
38. Hillary's rallies are way better!
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

I went to one this year, we all gathered at the ballot box and had a good time!

Can't say the exact number of people there but Hillary won my state so it must have been a YUUUUUUGE crowd!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
37. He did the same thing here in Indiana. The event in Lafayette was sold out minutes
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

after tickets were released.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. There's nothing newsworthy about that. Nobody cares.
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

I know that will come as a shock to many Bernie fans (and Hillary Haters) but the fact of the matter is that Bernie is not going to be the nominee. I mean, seriously now, everyone's already heard the "when-I-started-this-campaign-I-was-polling-at-3%" speech.

Bernie should take the hint. (As should his followers.)

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dana_b

(11,546 posts)
92. Yes we are but I'm kind of glad
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:47 AM
May 2016

That we are going near the end. That way more people have had a chance to hear Bernie and can make their decisions based on information rather than just name recognition. Now with the MSM saying "it's over", that definitely doesn't help, but still people can make that decision for themselves - just as WV did today.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
74. This is why the rallies don't matter...it's all about the math (again)
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:44 PM
May 2016

To be generous, why don't we say that 100,000 unique people have attended a Sanders rally each week for the past year. That would mean that a total of 5.2 million people have been to a rally. (Let's not even get into the fact that some of the people attending are not supporters, or are just curious...for example I went to a rally in NY last month, just to see what kind of people were there.)

Given the U.S. population of 320 million, a simple calculation tells us that only 1.6% of Americans have been to a Sanders rally. Again, this is extremely generous. Bottom line is that a candidate needs far more than just rallies to get enough votes to win. Different demographics have different abilities or desires to attend rallies. My parents and most of their friends would rather donate money than change their schedules to attend a rally or volunteer their time. But, they are all very loyal voters.

Trying to appeal to young people, who are most likely to come out and wait in line for hours to see a candidate, is a very old and common device of a fringe candidate to develop the optics which make them seem viable. This is why such candidates inevitably develop campaign promises designed to appeal to young people. I will admit that this tactic did work well for Sanders for a while, but obviously won't win him the race.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
75. I am somewhat surprised and glad that Sanders has maintained so much momentum.
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 11, 2016, 08:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Regardless of the primary vote to date, Sanders is ever more apparent the better and more popular Democratic candidate.

Too bad Hillary Clinton had such a head start and was treated as an incumbent by the failed DNC.

The popular vote would be closer had Sanders had the monies and campaign staff to compete in the early Southern states; Sanders may still well lose but the votes would have been closer.

I hope the super-delegates are watching and taking a serious think of the situation regards the Democratic party and the general election.

Hillary Clinton will result in less voter turnout and thus less down ticket suggest and likely only entrenched Democratic incumbents will survive.

Sanders will bring out more voters, more new and young voters, and more down ticket success for incumbents and other Democratic pols and issues.

Do your jobs media and super-delegates.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
93. I agree
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:49 AM
May 2016

I truly believe that if Bernie had the same amount of recognition that Hillary had OR that the primaries were started over today, Bernie would be ahead.

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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
95. Wouldn't those voters been split relatively evenly between Hillary and Bernie supporters?
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:07 AM
May 2016

Hillary did particularly well in the areas that had those issues.

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