I've been told to brace myself for a different Clinton in the GE. #hillyes

[NCTraveler]

I'm ready for the change. She has put together a great primary campaign and has viewed Sanders as a way to expand the party. She has shown amazing patience and has treated Sanders with kid gloves. She has taken on some highly unethical behavior and shots from the Sanders campaign but has held the high road showing us something we already knew; to Clinton it isn't about self, it is about community.

The Sanders campaign has attacked everything from Planned Parenthood to Obama. Stole Clinton campaign data from eleven states. Made a mockery of the vote and are publicly attempting to subvert the will of the people. Higher ups in his campaign are holding out hope for the success of right wing witch hunts and often sound like they are one in the same with those they are dreaming about.

Clinton has taken all of this on and has not fired back in kind. Her shots have been mild and respectful. She understands Sanders is an opportunity. An opportunity to expand the party. That is why she hasn't joined Sanders in his desperate need to mud wrestle. His need to steal data. His need to give voters the middle finger. She has stayed above those actions.

In the GE she won't be so kind to Trump. She has treated Sanders as a friend even though he has proven time and time again he isn't one. That's impressive. Trump won't be so lucky. I'm ready for the change.

[Vinca]

1. Oh, I thought you meant when she embraces TPP again and extols the virtues of coal mining.

[JaneyVee]

4. Now you hate trade deals and coal mining?

Too bad, some people have to work for a living.

[Vinca]

8. I'm all for the Chinese and Mexicans having jobs, but I draw the line at mountain top removal.

[JaneyVee]

11. Coal or fracking, your choice.

We cant collapse entire industries without transitioning phase, and we cant transition without a viable alternative.

[HumanityExperiment]

38. Only two?...

Really, you buy into there's only two choices?

Impressive attempt but epic fail on your part...

Just more republican light BS from HRC and her supporters

[Sparkly]

39. Reality.

There's no magic wand to get to renewable energy without those options in the meantime.

[HumanityExperiment]

41. reality?...

actually there is... but republicans and republican light folks, like HRC and her supporters have prevented or blocked these options these past 20 years through chocking legislation written by special interest group that fund their campaigns

http://vegasinc.com/business/2016/mar/16/elon-musk-taking-direct-approach-to-lobbying-nevad/

[Sparkly]

42. That's a convenient thing to believe.

It's nice and neat, and lets you cast blame.

It's just not that simple. Sorry.

[HumanityExperiment]

45. nice and neat...

it's that simple... special interests put the brakes on these options, resource control matters and it matters to control extraction and those that have availability to reach extraction points

Sun doesn't give that option, it's available to everyone regardless of status...

The 'blame' is upon folks like HRC and her supporters, this is clearly defineable

HRC is republican light, in both message and policy

only 'sorry' state here is your portraying HRC as an advocate for actual progress toward moving past 'bridge' solutions...

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

[Sparkly]

46. "HRC is republican light"

Sorry. I know you like to say it, but it simply is not true.

[HumanityExperiment]

47. Truth...

is in the history and policies/issues a politician takes and supports

feel free to dispute my point if you have data and facts to support your contention

it is a fact that Bernie has pulled HRC left this year, but so has public opinion over her entire history...

is just ONE example...


and please spare me the 'flip-flop' argument or 'evolving' bit...

[Sparkly]

48. The game of "Gotcha"

is not one I play.

Nobody "pulled her left." (And if you don't accept the idea of laws and opinions evolving, then how does anybody "move left?&quot

I know her history. I know her support for women and children worldwide, as human rights struggles. I know her fight against constant attacks from all sides, and I'm sorry you're among those slamming her with "gotchas."

I'm sure you believe Al Gore said he invented the internet, too.

[HumanityExperiment]

50. 'Gotcha'...

This isn't a game, nor is it 'gotcha', this is fact

There is a base, a foundation that each person has, her's is to the right, how far right from 'center' is the point and where this discussion should focus

She is pulled left and you know it, to play 'this game' is to be intellectually dishonest... and do you really want to play 'that game'?

HRC and her supporters are working towards building this facade of misogyny defense so they have a meme/narrative card in their pocket to use against ANY point that could damage her on FACTUAL basis...

Look at the facts and my point stands, I see that you have none to reply with or are unwilling to provide in your reply... so... ball is in your court... GL, you'll need it

[Sparkly]

51. "There is a base, a foundation that each person has, her's is to the right"

She fought for universal healthcare before anybody had it on their radar.
She's fought for women's rights as human rights, including healthcare and reproductive freedom around the world.
She's fought for children's healthcare, childcare, and family leave.
She's fought for AIDs victims worldwide, especially in hard-hit communities in Africa.
She's stood up against right-wingers for decades and I've watched it. She's the smartest person in the room, she doesn't try to make complicated issues into easy soundbites (like "break up the big banks&quot and her proposals are more comprehensive, realistic, detailed and economically viable than anyone else's.
The attacks that she is "Republican" are ridiculous, and made by cherrypicking, taking statements out of context, and twisting them -- this is an OLD ploy I've seen over and over again from republicans.

You can keep saying it, but you aren't convincing me of anything but how much right-wingers want to run against Bernie.

[HumanityExperiment]

55. 'anything'....

I don't need to be convinced, nor do you need to be... the point are the facts

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/16/in-1993-meeting-hillary-clinton-acknowledged-convincing-case-for-single-payer/


When it comes to special interests, to the $$ angle she's not left, she's on the right

I see in your listing you never mention anything related to finance, business or corp special interests

Fracking
Citizen's United
Keystone XL pipeline
TPP or any trade agreement
LGBT rights, same sex marriage

I"m not cherry pickin' and you know this, that's why you avoided even mentioing them in your reply

You're the one that has to cherry pick, not I

[Sparkly]

56. And what about those?

Listing issues as if each of these were simple, and as if she is "bad" on them, is making broad assertions on very complex matters. She's not "FOR" fracking any more than anybody is "FOR" abortion. She's not "FOR" pollution, lower wages, or LGBT oppression.

Feminist Majority:
"Hillary has worked to close the gender and race pay gap, fought to end race-based segregation in education, and is a champion of reproductive rights. She has supported ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, fought for passage and reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, prioritized women’s rights globally, and successfully used her power in the Senate, along with Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), to push for FDA approval of emergency contraception. Hillary supports paid family and medical leave and played a major role in passing the State Children Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which provides 8 million low-income children with access to health care."

Eleanor Smeal:
“Battle after battle, Hillary has proven that she will not only stand with the feminist community, but that our fight is her fight. As a self-identified feminist, Hillary has been proactive – from reproductive rights to closing the gender/race pay gap, to expanding Social Security, including care credits and fighting privatization of it and Medicare, to expanding Medicaid, to increasing access to healthcare and to promoting women’s equality here and globally. Hillary has repeatedly prioritized these issues,” said Feminist Majority President Eleanor Smeal. “Hillary has demonstrated her deep commitment to women’s rights and advancement. Through her actions and words, she has inspired women worldwide to take leadership, and countless nations of the world to prioritize women’s and girls’ advancement in the economy, education, and health care.”

Dolores Huerta:
“Hillary gets things done because she is a strong, trusted leader who never gives up fighting for people, families, and children. In fighting for comprehensive health care reform, she played a major role in securing SCHIP for the children of low-income families. She is a leader who is inclusive – she brings people together – and she will fight for immigration reform and the DREAMers. She has the wisdom and experience to take our country forward,” said Dolores Huerta, co-founder of United Farm Workers, and Feminist Majority board member.

Gayly Burroughs:
“Hillary Clinton’s vision for the future and her 2016 campaign have prioritized feminist issues like no other presidential campaign in history. She has pledged to end the Hyde Amendment, which prevents low-income women receiving Medicaid from accessing abortion care,” commented Gaylynn Burroughs, Feminist Majority Policy Director. “She supports the Equality Act to add to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protection against discrimination for the LGBT community, as well as ENDA to stop employment discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. She has committed to strengthening efforts to address climate change, create more affordable childcare, and build a more equitable tax code. She has also vowed to fight voter suppression and make it easier, not harder, for people of color, women, and young people to vote.” continued Burroughs.
http://feministmajority.org/feminist-majority-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president/

[JTFrog]

59. I don't think you are going to get an answer.

That poster has been here less than a month has 4 hidden posts and is flagged for review.

But thank you for this post.

[Armstead]

62. She was for LGBT oppression before it was politically expedent to change her stance

yeah she's a champion of women's issues. But the ultimate woman's health care solution is universal expansion of public insurance (i.e. Medicaid) so ALL women can actually AFFORD healthcare...And not pulling the rug out of the safety net of welfare that many poor and working poor women relied on.

As for the transition, you're correct. We can't just switch off dirty power and turn on clean power.

But the devil IS in the details, and Clinton too often justifies a go slow pace that discourages practical implementation and transitions faster and sooner,l while encouraging dirty solutions.

[Fla Dem]

60. Good one. You pulled a video from April 2002 to make your case. 14 freaking years ago.

How Bernie Sanders Evolved on Gay Marriage
Sam Frizell / Des Moines @Sam_Frizell Oct. 28, 2015

<snip>

But his record on gay marriage is more complicated than he now makes it sound. While Sanders generally opposed measures to ban gay marriage, he did not speak out in favor of it until 2009. That’s still ahead of Clinton, who released a YouTube video announcing her support in 2013, as well as most other Democratic Senators, but not as early as he’s now casting it.

In addition, his reasoning for opposing efforts to restrict gay marriage was much narrower and legalistic than he now makes it seem.

When Sanders was asked on Sunday about his vote against the Defense of Marriage Act on CNN, he said that he believed back in 1996 that gay couples had the right to gay marriage. “I thought then and I think now that people have the right to love those folks that they want to love and get married regardless of their sexual orientation,” he said.

That wasn’t the answer his staff gave in 1996, however. His wife and chief of staff Jane Sanders told an Associated Press reporter in July of 1996 that he opposed the law because it weakened the section of the Constitution that says states must respect laws that are made in other states.

“We’re not legislating values. We have to follow the Constitution,” Jane Sanders said. “And anything that weakens the Constitution should be (addressed) by a constitutional amendment, not by a law passed by Congress.”

<snip>

But the court also said that the Vermont legislature should decide the issue. Many prominent Democrats, including Sanders’ successor as mayor of Burlington and a gubernatorial nominee, spoke out in favor of gay marriage, but Sanders kept mum.

Peter Freyne, a locally beloved Vermont writer and opinion writer whom Sanders later lauded as “the best political reporter in the state of Vermont,” accused the then-Congressman of obfuscating on his gay rights position.

“Obtaining Congressman Bernie Sanders’ position on the gay marriage issue was like pulling teeth … from a rhinoceros,” Freyne wrote. Freyne described repeated attempts to hear Sanders’ views on gay marriage, and the congressman only said he “supports the current process” in the state legislature. Though Sanders was not in the Vermont state legislature at the time, it was a hot topic in his home state at the time.

“It’s an election year, yet despite the lack of a serious challenger, The Bern’s gut-level paranoia is acting up,” Freyne wrote.

In 2006, when the Bush White House proposed an amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as between a man and a woman, Sanders spoke out against the Republican plan, saying it was “designed to divide the American people.”

>more<

http://time.com/4089946/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage/

Bernie has not been a crusader for gay marriage. He evolved. Clinton evolved. Most Americans evolved. General acceptance actually occurred a lot sooner than most Gay right activists thought it would. I'm glad it did. I really don't care who jumped on the band wagon first. I'm just glad they're all on it.

[lagomorph777]

72. "Pub Lite" is generous. I don't see much "Lite" except on social issues

which make no economic difference to the billionaires who fund both the "red" and "Blue" Republocrats.

[AzDar]

75. I agree. There is no "light" whatsoever...

[Rass]

105. It is true

Pretty chart and her history says so. She is not a progressive.

[Fla Dem]

49. Simple is as simple does.

Are you still driving an oil powered car, or have you switched to a bicycle?

Are you still on the municipal electrical grid powered by fossil fuels, or have you installed solar panels to provide electricity to power your home?

Are you still using fossil fuels to power your heating system (electric, oil, coal) or are you using solar energy?

If you do in fact no longer depend on fossil fuels to sustain your life, then Bravo! I salute you.

If not, then why not. Each individual has the capacity to go off the grid. Where are you on that.

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. You forget, EVERYTHING is just that simple ...

from behind your keyboard, especially when it requires nothing from you, except to type how simple it is.

[forjusticethunders]

69. Well, in theory you COULD go 100% renewables within a few years

But is the political and societal will there for an effort that would make WWII and the Manhattan Project look like a walk in the park?

[lagomorph777]

71. Sure, false dichotomies are a favorite tool of the Right Wing

The American Petroleum Institute has been running ads like crazy lately. Seems some of our "fellow Dems" have bought hook line and sinker the meme that energy = burning fossil fuel.

[angrychair]

74. Always the canned answer from you types

And it is always "10" or "20" or "30 years away".

We always have billions and billions of dollars in tax subsidies for the oil and gas industry but the alternative energy R&D and startups has to beg and plead for a tenth of a tenth of one percent of what Exxon makes as profit in a single quarter.

We always have billions and billions of dollars for the military industrial complex but the alternative energy R&D and startups has to beg and plead for a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of one percent of what we spend on "defense".

Given your candidate's love of military and political intervention (Honduras, Libya and Syria) and advocacy for fracking around the world, I don't see that changing.

[Demsrule86]

15. Bernie has the coal mine vote all sewed up

I was surprised to learn Bernie favored coal mining but BS supporters said he will win WVA over the issue.

[Jitter65]

24. And he will because the WVA voters haven't paid any attention to his environmental stance. nt

[spinbaby]

43. Very true

All they hear is that Clinton quote about putting coal miners out of work. I know she meant she was going to replace the jobs with sustainable energy jobs, but until those jobs turn up and pay a living wage, WV is all about coal.

Sanders' position is also to replace coal with sustainable energy, but he had the sense not to create that terrible sound bite.

[notadmblnd]

81. Bernie didn't have to say anything to suport the coal miners

Hillary stuck her big ole foot in her mouth and pissed the coal miners off all by herself.

[lagomorph777]

70. Sure, pivots and flip-flops are the new normal

We expect a candidate to pretend to be one thing in the primaries, then pretend to be another thing in the GE, then pretend to be another thing in office. Her followers expect and demand that!

[JaneyVee]

2. And shes the only candidate getting attacked from both sides....

And still the clear frontrunner by millions of votes.

[NurseJackie]

13. I know... MILLIONS AHEAD!!

What is it about those multiple millions of votes that Bernie fans aren't getting? (I suppose the same thing could be asked about the hundreds of more delegates she has ... what exactly is it about her BEING AHEAD that they don't understand?)

[Jitter65]

26. And Georgia might turn blue and few others. Keep working hard Hillary supporters. It ain't over!

[Juicy_Bellows]

82. Georgia might turn blue? I've read that and heard that recently.

If HRC is the nom and Georgia turns blue remind me, bookmark this, and I'll gladly toss $100 to any charity of your choosing.

[PowerToThePeople]

3. #HillNo

Your whole OP is completely lies.

[JaneyVee]

7. At this point, that comment = TrumpYes

Bernie isnt going to be the nominee. Youre either with us or against us.

[PowerToThePeople]

10. Hello George Bush.

JaneyVee
7. At this point, that comment = TrumpYes
Bernie isnt going to be the nominee. Youre either with us or against us.

[JaneyVee]

12. Welcome to Civics 101.

[frylock]

86. Where in the curriculum does HillNo = TrumpYes?

Does no to Coke = yes to Pepsi if you have no intention of drinking either one?

[SheenaR]

76. With us or against us

Sounds like the cult-like behavior you all decry from our side. Is it also a veiled threat? What if I am against you? What will JaneyVee do?

[seabeyond]

5. I hope Clinton does take off the gloves. She did coddle Sanders and that is a tough one for me.

Hence, me not being in politics, and Clinton successful in it.

[Hortensis]

25. Unfortunately, Clinton is going to have to

take funds away from the GE to run more primary ads against Sanders. I'm really angry at him right now. What the hell is he trying to do? Many of his supporters would like us to lose the GE to Trump, imagining that would "prove" they were right. Is he among them? Is he inside just really bad-loser spoiler at heart?

[seabeyond]

34. For five decades, but especially 3, the intent and motive is destruction of Democratic party

Because it simply does not meet his one man requirement.

Clinton might have to dig up money. But, he plays the numbers and is good about only putting so much in. The man of the hour that has put all that money in his campaign, is not other than the man campaigning on the evils of money in campaigns.

[frylock]

88. Bernie has been conspiring for 50 years to destroy the Democratic Party?

[seabeyond]

91. Well, yes. He has. Hasn't been effective, has he. Kinda like the do nothing congress dude. All talk.

[frylock]

92. More herp and less derp.

[seabeyond]

93. We are playing cutsey?

[frylock]

95. I'm not playing here.

You guys are treating this as a game.

[seabeyond]

97. Well, seems like all the OTT, smears, extremes and fabrications certainly create a game atmosphere.

[frylock]

99. Then stop doing those things.

[seabeyond]

100. Uh hu.

[Hortensis]

94. Sorry, but it fits with 50 years of statements and essays,

not to mention his irritating tendency to lecture his Senate Democratic colleagues on ideology any time one of them tries to hold a discussion with him. I've always had a tendency to think well of people and hoped it wouldn't be so, but the time has come for him to put the good of America ahead of his agenda and he's still threatening trouble for the Democrats.

It is very possible that, like so many here, Sanders sees the liberal moderation of the Democrats as a larger threat to America than the conservative extremism that's taken hold on the right.

Very unfortunately, the far left is much more sympathetic to its cousins the far right, and both are implacably against liberals and the Democratic Party. I was hoping Sanders was radical-lite, but it's looking more and more as if Seabeyond is right.

[AgingAmerican]

106. There is no far left, for starters

The rest of your rant is just codified resentments

[AgingAmerican]

104. Wrong as always

[seabeyond]

108. Nope. Right on. Facts. !!! His own words. Or record. Depending what your comment is addressing.

[frylock]

87. Why would she need to do that?

What happened to "Math"?

[bkkyosemite]

107. LOL LOL you are angry at him because ...he is running a campaign in a Primary LOL

[Dustlawyer]

6. So Sanders has been unfair and Saint Clinton has treated him with kid gloves?

Amazing take away to say the least. Nice unifying statement you got here too!

[Demsrule86]

16. Sanders has been awful

Bad enough to do it at any time...but to continue when you have lost signals a desire to wound the nominee in GE terms which is a bitter and spiteful sort of behavior.

[Dustlawyer]

21. Then tell Hillary and DWS to give us proportionate representation on the committees

and put some of what we want in the Democratic platform and we are good! They are not wanting to do that, to basically ignore the Bernie supporters and what is important to us and still expect our support for Hillary in the General is ludicrous.

[Hortensis]

31. Nope. Bernie's people will be involved and

no doubt deals and accommodations will be made. But putting a bunch of people who regard the others on the committees as obstructionists to their righteous ways is not how you get things done. (Shudder.) If he were to be the nominee, he would be the new party leader and have party leader power, but he is not.

[Dustlawyer]

40. What a load of BS! You think she will get Bernie supporters to back her when she gives

us the cold shoulder? She settled for the SOL job as her settlement. Bernie wants some of our issues reflected in the Party platform.

[Hortensis]

54. HRC could hug and kiss you and send you

chocolates and you'd call that a "cold shoulder" if that suited you. If you want to be wooed you'll consider yourself wooed. If you don't, nothing she can do will change your mind.

You've also apparently never been on a committee. They're supposed to achieve their purpose, not fall apart in brangling because they were put together all wrong.

[Dustlawyer]

65. Approximately 47% of Democrats voted for Bernie.

Are you saying our issues don't matter? That she doesn't need to compromise for an agreement on the Party platform? I am just talking about what is fair.

[Hortensis]

67. Aren't you forgetting all the "indies" and Republicans

you're trying to open primaries to let in? 47% of Democrats did not vote for him, and a significant portion of the mixed group who did did it to try to defeat Hillary Clinton before she got to the GE.

[Dustlawyer]

98. Really?

[Dustlawyer]

66. I know, all Hillary people are good, Bernie bad. Bernie people all obstructionist and

Hillary people very accommodating. (Sarcasm)

[Dustlawyer]

37. You need to listen to Bernie then.

He wants his supporter's policy agendas represented in the Democratic platform. He wants proportional representation on the DNC Convention Committees. That is a reasonable response, it's not winner take all, she needs to reflect a big tent and so far she is telling all of us to eat cake! If she wants our support she needs to earn it!

[Demsrule86]

109. I don't care what he wantsl

He lost. Why should the party adopt a losing platform? It is winner take all. She is the nominee and he is not. He has no business interfering with the convention. He should suspend or concede...endorse and make a nice speech...oh and campaign...he seems to like it...might be useful. Other than that, he is not needed.

[Dustlawyer]

110. Winner take all, including all of our votes?

My, don't you think that is a little short sighted? Isn't the goal to win the WH? Are our actual Progressive policies too much, or not Republican enough for you?

[bigtree]

9. very well said, NCTraveler

...and very much appreciated.

K&R

[Dawgs]

14. Oh shit!

Is this the only way you guys/gals can make it through the day?

[hobbit709]

18. A day without Bernie bashing is a wasted day to the denizens of Camp Bansalot.

[Amaril]

96. This, and

the posts about Bernie's healthcare plan being underfunded by $17 grazillion dollars or whatever the number is. I've trashed so many multiples, I've lost exact count.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. You call this honest, you claim this is fair and decent?

"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

Not a word of that is true, it's all lies. She smears LGBT activists by claiming they took no action until the courageous Ronald and Nancy Reagan bravely started a national conversation about AIDS. Of course the fact is that Reagan spent seven years in total silence regarding AIDS, he never even said the word. During that time about 30,000 Americans died and countless thousands marched, demonstrated, confronted and did anything possible to draw attention to the crisis, to the suffering of our neighbors. She says they did nothing, but that is a horrible false smear. She says Reagan did everything which is also horrible and entirely false. Entirely false.

No one asked her to say that, she sought out the cameras to tell American that raft of lies, that ugly revision of important recent history.

If she's the nominee she's going to be the hardest vote I've ever had to make and I will not let anyone in this Party rest until amends are made ten fold. So be ready.

[NCTraveler]

22. You have seen me repeatedly state my opinion on what you bring up.

No fewer than five times between you and I directly.

I also agree with you about amends.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Then when will you take action on your agreement with me and pressure your candidate and

your cohort of supporters to make that amends and to stop the endless digs and excuses?Your OP claims others are dishonest and right wing but Hillary's own statement could not be less honest nor more unjustly favorable to the right wing. When will you stop bashing others and try to make the amends you say you feel must come?

The problem is that you keep lecturing others when you and your candidate have amends to make a huge raft of insulting lies to correct. Taking time to preach against others is creepy when you have that level of bullshit to rectify.

So let's see some action. Not one person has done a thing to make those amends.

[NCTraveler]

29. I have and will continue to take action.

There is no secret there. You and I have discussed it many times.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. No we have not. I have not seen you take any positive action, all I see is you justifying

anything Hillary says while attacking Bernie and his supporters constantly. Part of making amends for insulting lies is ceasing the vile attacks. People who spew lies in praise of Republicans have no standing to then criticize Democrats. So they should not do that. What I see you doing is attacking Democrats like me while excusing any lie your candidate tells.

I see no action out of you. I see you in this OP claiming her smears and falsehoods have been 'the High Road'. Lying about AIDS is not the High Road. Understand? You can't sink to that low then also claim the High Road. Well, you can and you do but others don't have to buy that product.

Show me your actions. Show me Hillary's amends making. I see nothing but smears of Bernie in your OP. You call her Reagan bullshit 'the High Road'.


Readers can visit the OP's 'High Road' at this link-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=279260&sub=trans

[NCTraveler]

35. Now you are simply being dishonest.

Interesting that you highlight my transparency page. Can you believe I have a hide for calling the Pope a bigot? Check out the alerted message on that one. Truly horrifying.

Why are you promoting the thought that calling the Pope a bigot should be a hideable offense? The Pope is a fucking bigot and I don't care if you alert that comment or vote to hide it. It's what he is.

The only post I am embarrassed to have made on this site was not hidden. I have no issue with any of my hides. It's becoming more and more difficult to be a progressive on this board.

Also, another hide you are highlighting was for directly calling a member who has been given the boot a bigot. I'm surprised at you here and what you are supporting. It doesn't seem like you.

I have stood with my LGBQT brothers and sisters at every single turn. You won't find one word I have said to show anything different.

[cali]

19. Fantasyland and about you justifying Hillary no matter what

[NCTraveler]

20. I don't justify her no matter what.

I don't even get where that comment comes from. I have been extremely harsh with respect to a number of things Clinton has done. We have no Saints running for President.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Your OP claims she's taken the high road, respected 'the community'. Reality:

She praised Reagan as an AIDS activist while claiming gay people refused to take action until Ron and Nancy showed us how. And you pretend that is 'the high road'. That's what you do, you present that low level raft of lies as 'the high road'.

No amends have been made. She said that shit and then she never asked for my vote. Never even asked.

[NCTraveler]

36. My op has not claimed perfection as you are promoting.

How many times have I trashed Clintons comments you are mentioning. I can find five links where I have in direct conversations with you personally.

[Jitter65]

27. Nice! Do you mind if I quote you on FB?

[NCTraveler]

30. Not at all. That is very kind of you. Thank you. You made my morning. Nt

[ibegurpard]

33. you mean like her lead balloon country-club goer attack?

Coming from a fellow country-club goer?
Yeah can't wait for more hard-hitting shit like that...

[Logical]

44. Lol, ok. Nt

[Matariki]

57. It's both sad and amusing to watch so-called progressives embrace right wing ideology

in order to continue support for their flawed, corporate, wall street backed candidate.

[lagomorph777]

61. Actually, Trump is a friend.

He's the Hardy to her Laurel.

[Orsino]

63. Might want to edit your subject line.

Post seems to be just an empty Sanders rant.

[NCTraveler]

64. I'm good with my subject line. Thank you for your input.

I'm not sure what PIst means.

[PufPuf23]

68. What a pants load. eom

[Attorney in Texas]

73. Which accent is she going to use in the general election? Is she $12/hr Hillary or $15/hr Hillary?

Will she be pro-TPP Hillary or anti-TPP Hillary? Will she be pro-KeystoneXL Hillary or anti-KeystoneXL? With she stick to her 2015 positions on gun control and immigration or will she slip back to her 2008 positions?

I can't wait to see all the exciting changes you describe!

[NCTraveler]

77. "Which accent is she going to use in the general election?"

Depends what state she is in.

[Attorney in Texas]

78. You promised a "new" Hillary - that's the same old Hillary!

[NCTraveler]

83. She has spent months working on her dialect. You just wait. It's going to be yuge!!!!! nt.

[SheenaR]

79. The notion

that she has run an admirable campaign, free of smear is absolutely mindblowing. I don't understand how people support Trump. But I do now understand people will believe literally anything and pass it on to others as truth.

[ViseGrip]

80. TREATED SANDERS WITH KID GLOVES AND HER GLOWING CAMPAIGN - are you high?

I do want what ever you're smoking. I do!

[aikoaiko]

84. Your bias on the scorecard of "shots" from each campaign is showing.

Attacking Planned Parenthood? Criticizing PP because the PP made an endorsement for the first time against Bernie while he was generating momentum. As if Bernie had to be stopped.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/07/planned-parenthood-will-make-unprecedented-primary-endorsement-of-hillary-clinton/

Attacking Obama: Criticizing his "almost" endorsement as a sitting President.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/17/obamas-almost-endorsement-of-hillary-clinton/

Made a mockery of the vote? I have no idea what this is about.

Complaining about how campaign officials said HRC might crash and burn from a scandal? This from supporters of the candidate who previously alluded to the assignation of candidate Obama as a reason for her to stay in the race.

Oh yes HRC and supporters fired back in kind.

Having John Lewis say he didn't see Bernie in the south? Dolores Huerta tweeting about "English Only?" ?@HillaryClinton .@BernieSanders prioritized gun manufacturers' rights over the parents of the children killed at Sandy Hook? These were slimy and despicable shots.

I will give you that taking the data was a terrible act and someone was fired for it.

[Fawke Em]

85. Expand the party?

With who? Republicans?

Cause these Millennials don't want nothing to do with her:

?list=PLqSpk99bLYIRKq4aVpSe6NfWhbri-i6z1

[Ferd Berfel]

90. YEs - with Republicans. They already had DWS state that she dosen't need

or care about Bernie supporters.


WSJ: Hillary: The Conservative Hope
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511934411

Clinton Campaign to Republican Donors: Hillary Shares Your Values
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511929787


Clinton 'More Conservative' than Trump
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511913153

NYT: Clinton pivoting to court GOP Donors and White Republican "Megachurch Moms"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1921369


Remember the old Carnival con-games?

Round and round she goes, where she stops nobody knows

[nadinbrzezinski]

89. And then Bernie Supporters have been told to shut up, hold their noses

and vote.

It has been as great unity message, NOT.

[AgerolanAmerican]

101. the snake will shed another layer of skin

how interesting and not unexpected

[Rass]

102. oh my god, you got me there!

Funniest post of the day! Thanks for the laugh. I almost thought it was April fools.

[AgingAmerican]

103. She was insulting his Grandchildren the other day

She has that weirdo Brock do her dirty work for her. Just as GW Bush had Rove doing his dirty work.