Why Hillary will never never never ever pick Warren or Brown

[cali]

Her donors. And she wants republican voters.

[NCTraveler]

1. Warren will be a powerhouse for her in the senate.

That is why she won't get the spot. Unlike Sanders, Warren understands the complexities of the issues we face and has fostered relationships with her colleagues. Warren will have more influence in the Senate and that is extremely important.

[Eric J in MN]

9. If we don't take back the Senate

...then Republicans will continue to have almost all the power there.

If we do take back the Senate, then Bernie Sanders will be chairman of the Budget Committee.

[cali]

13. Lol. You live in a fantasy

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/09/hillary-clinton-just-issued-a-challenge-to-progressives-they-should-take-her-up-on-it/

[NCTraveler]

30. I don't think I do but understand why you feel the need to say that.

Big Warren supporter here. She will be a powerhouse in the senate moving forward and on of Clintons greates allies.

[KPN]

26. blah blah blah ... just like Warren has been a powerhouse for ...

oops, I mean rattling Obama.

I'd rather have her in the Senate keeping Hillary honest -- should she win the nomination and by chance win the GE anyway.

[highprincipleswork]

28. Warren will probably be a thorn in her side in the Senate, unless she acts like a Progressive. On

the other hand, better a thorn in your side on some issues in the Senate than your constant companion as VP.

I don't see these two as a team at all, though it would be good for votes and for that reason I would like it.

I do hope, however, that all Progressives can have s say and influence in Hillary Clinton (versus Bill Clinton) presidency. It's pretty hard to hold my breath for this one, however. I do it in spurts.

[JaneyVee]

2. But Bernie fans always brag about crossover appeal.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

3. Crossover appeal only counts if it's Bernie.

If Republicans vote for Bernie, it's crossover appeal. If Republicans vote for Hillary, then she sold out.

[NurseJackie]

7. And if we respond to anti-Hillary attacks, we're "worried" ...

... but if we don't respond to them, then we're "scared".

[Dr Hobbitstein]

15. You are catching on. nt

[KPN]

27. Yeah, different Republicans. Average working class Rs vs privileged upper class.

[Cali_Democrat]

34. Funny how that works. nt

[Mz Pip]

37. Bernie supporters say they won't support Hillary

And now they're mad because she's courting people who might vote for her. 🙄

She wants to be President and that means getting more votes than Trumpet. Maybe she takes the #BernieorBust people seriously. Can't fault her for that considering how much vitriol is coming from them.

Can't have it both ways. Hate on a candidate, expect them to move on to someone who ignorant support you.

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. Cross over appeal helps when that appeal doesn't weaken your core principles

And it seems that may be true in Hillary's case.

[TheKentuckian]

8. As long as they are doing the crossing over it is not just good but spectacular but

if you are talking about attracting them by adopting conservative positions then fucking A right that is a problem.

If you can't see the vast difference then it is only because you don't want to.

[Armstead]

18. Pretty much nail on head

If you can't see the vast difference then it is only because you don't want to.

[KPN]

29. Yup!

[morningfog]

14. Crossover appeal is not the same thing as courting donors.

[ieoeja]

35. It sort of makes a really important difference when you consider what the appeal is.

Bernie appeals to White, working class Republicans because he supports their economic interests. Some of them will set aside their bigotry for that support.

Hillary appeals to White, wealthy Republicans because she supports their economic interests. Some of them will set aside their bigotry for that support.

[TheKentuckian]

4. That and a lifetime invested in pulling the party in the other direction.

[Eric J in MN]

6. Sherrod Brown would be more acceptable to HRC donors

...than Elizabeth Warren.

Brown voted to repeal Glass-Steagall.

But her donors may reject Brown over Free Trade.

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. I think she would pick them to get them out of the Senate

[Tarc]

11. And why would she do that?

Are you full of so much vinegar today that you really can't see we're all on the same side here?

[Armstead]

19. We're not...based on your frequent comments

[Tarc]

23. You're welcome to come on-board at any time

Just drop hte anti-Hill rage.

[JohnnyRingo]

31. Berniacs have touted the "Hillary is a Republican" meme so much...

...they're starting to believe their own nasty campaign rhetoric. They've even painted the beloved ex-president formerly known here as "Big Dog" to be a defacto member of the Tea Party.

It's getting crazy to the point you can no longer reason with them.

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. Brown should be her ideal choice

He has been a valuable voice for her this election cycle. He has some honest earned progressive creds, on trade in particular as well for standing up to Wall Street, and he appeals to some of the same voters that Bernie does who have been cooler to Hillary; working class white males. Then there is that little thing about him being a winner from Ohio. He actually could strengthen the ticket in key ways.

If Hillary chose Brown I would be slightly encouraged by that. It is something she has the power to do that would actually help her create more unity in the Party heading into the fall election.

And on the other side of the equation is: Money and corporate centrism.

Probably the only way she would pick a Warren or Brown is if Bernie spooks her by doing much better than expected in California.

[Armstead]

20. Unfortunately it would complete the defanging of Brown

He has always stood ip for working people and against shitty trade policies.

I suspect if he were VP, Clinton would send him to speak at a lot of funerals, let him make some nice sounding speeches to give her a "progressive populist" veneer, let him spout off in cabinet meetings.....and then totally ignore him as she pursues her neoloberal agenda. .

[Waiting For Everyman]

16. She'll pick Bill or Jebby, I bet. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. Scott Brown, more likely.

[tammywammy]

21. I don't know why anyone wants Warren as VP

She'll have more power and ability to be an effective change agent to pass positive legislation as Senator.

Same goes for Brown.

[Tom Rinaldo]

24. It might help put one of them in line for a later Presidential bid

Warren has a high enough profile that she probably doesn't need VP a a stepping stone. It might really help Brown later though.

[tammywammy]

25. Possibly with Brown.

I don't think Warren is interested in being VP or President.

[Vote2016]

22. She also doesn't want someone who is so much better loved than her

[farleftlib]

32. Her husband will be acting vice president

Whoever gets on the ticket will be even more ineffectual than most vice presidents.
I bet she'll pick the equivalent of Dan Quayle.

[CorkySt.Clair]

33. You're never right about anything

[H2O Man]

36. Recommended.

If the Clinton campaign were to select either one for VP, it would not be out of sincerity. Rather, it would be a gimmick pick, not unlike McCain's desperate attempt in 2008. (Obviously, this is not to equate either of them with Palin in terms of talent.)