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[Buzz Clik]

1. Ok. Trot out the FBI story. And the Iraq vote. And Kissinger. And the neocon "endorsements".

Whatever it takes.

[ibegurpard]

2. all of her own making

[Buzz Clik]

4. ... said Rush Limbaugh.

[CoffeeCat]

14. So, when Hillary hand picked Robert Kagan, the founder of the neocons, to be one of her advisers

Would you say that was a smart choice or a bad choice?

I think Rush Limbaugh would say that was a damn fine choice!

[Dawgs]

18. Why would Rush care about those things? Hillary is easier to beat.

And every single one of those she did create herself.

[Buzz Clik]

19. Other than the email, the rest are all unadulterated bullshit.

[Dawgs]

22. I agree. Her vote and vocal support for the Iraq war was bullshit.

Any Democrat, or supporter, should be ashamed of it.

[George II]

56. No, all of the right wing making and those bound and determined to destroy Clinton, from...

...the right AND the left.

[Cheese Sandwich]

3. Why are you guys choosing the less electable candidate anyway

[Buzz Clik]

5. I support HRC. She's electable, he is not.

[Cheese Sandwich]

6. You got any evidence of that?

[Buzz Clik]

8. Video evidence. Do you believe your own eyes?

http://tinyurl.com/dymbb3a

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. Looks like a risky click

You should check some of these head to head match up polls.

Sanders actually does significantly better against Trump than Clinton does. Especially in key battleground states.

[imagine2015]

51. So a music video is your evidence that Secretary Clinton can beat Trump. Sure it is.

Well, nothing like hard scientific evidence.

Polls?

Humbug!

[merrily]

9. LOL! Read the OP again.

[CoffeeCat]

11. Yes, trod out the facts

and then blame Bernie supporters for Clinton's heinous actions. Blame Bernie supporters for the fallout too.

Sounds like a mentally-balanced and sane approach.

[George II]

55. B E N G H A Z I ! ! ! ! ! !

[libdem4life]

58. You're a year or two behind. Try and catch up.

That one is old and silly...even with the all caps and spaces and, wow, 6 exclamation points.

But you may be right after all. Lots of stuff in or missing in the emails. Problem is, those wiped emails had Lots of ccs that couldn't be deleted.

We'll see. Just keep the story alive. Thanks.

[CrowCityDem]

7. And in FL he's ONE POINT better than Clinton, all without every being attacked.

[merrily]

12. Oh, please. Hillary and her surrogates have been attacking him for months.

Some things people who want to win the general, as opposed to just nominating Hillary, should consider.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511921920#post164

[CrowCityDem]

17. They attacked his policies, not him. Months of being called basically a communist would tank him.

[merrily]

20. No, they attacked HIM. Religion, dual citizen of Israel, ssssocialissst, and on and on.

And his wife, too.

She and her surrogates also told deceptive half truths about his policies and his votes.

[CrowCityDem]

21. Who, the campaign or crazy internet people? We're talking about the actual candidates here.

[merrily]

23. The campaign, the PACs the surrogates. Don't know which primary you've been following, but

in Hillary v. Bernie, that is what has been going on.

[CrowCityDem]

31. I haven't seen anyone associated with the campaign attack Judaism.

[merrily]

37. What do you think "dual citizen of Israel" is a dog whistle for?

Besides, that you didn't see something is not meaningful.

[lakeguy]

25. no one even knows what communist/socialist means anymore

and they are still doing it to BO. how'd that work out for the rethugs?

[KPN]

27. Do you really think the State that elected Rick Scott and has

mastered the voter suppression game will really go for Hillary?

Seems like wishful thinking to me.

[merrily]

13. Wow. Worse than I thought and sooner than I thought.

I will always believe that the Clinton scandals had more to do with the 2000 election than Nader or Bush. The first time I saw Dimson announce was on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, where he promised to bring dignity back to the Oval Office. People don't want to live through that crap again. Plus, Trump's whole appeal has been that he is anti-establishment and not accepting donations. Hillary is not going to be able to fight him on either one of his strong suits. Bernie can fight him on both.

[Human101948]

36. Gore's calculus on shunning Bill Clinton proved to be faulty math...

Didn't Bill have record high approval at the end of his term?

After his impeachment proceedings in 1998 and 1999, Clinton's rating reached its highest point at 73% approval.[3] He finished with a Gallup poll approval rating of 65%,[4] higher than that of every other departing president measured since Harry Truman.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Bill_Clinton

Picking that asshole Lieberman for VP was the icing on top of that cake.

[Sparkly]

15. Welcome to DU.

[niyad]

16. funny, other polls show something quite different. but, thanks for playing.

[merrily]

24. Bernie has been doing better against Trump than Hillary in head to head polls for months.

[niyad]

32. depends on which poll you are checking.

[merrily]

41. No, it really hasn't.

[niyad]

44. do keep trying, I need the laughs.

[merrily]

46. You can always link to refute. Someone else already asked you for links and got crickets.

Maybe you've mistaken that cricket chirping for laughter? Easy mistake.

[niyad]

48. and I can always do something interesting and fun for myself.

[merrily]

49. TMI!

[KPN]

33. OK. What other polls? Links?

[still_one]

38. I question the sampling. The numbers aren't broken down well at all. The majority of those polled

in all three states support voter ID, which implies to me that more republicans were sampled. In addition, there is no indication for example, the percent of Sanders' supporters who said they would vote for Trump over Hillary.

Here is what is known, and why I question the sampling:

The overall popular vote has Hillary up + 2.2 Million over Trump, and 3.1 Million over Sanders

[niyad]

40. shhhh, you are not supposed to notice these little facts.

[merrily]

50. A Hillary supporter claiming to question a poll favorable to Bernie is a fact now? Hilarious.

[merrily]

42. When Bernie's supporters fault polls, Hillary supporters mock them with Romney.

[Attorney in Texas]

26. centrist establishment status quo will not beat anti-establishment promises of change this cycle.

[still_one]

28. Wonder how many of those Sanders supporters polled said they would vote for Trump over Clinton?

[KPN]

34. Not many.

Most Sanders supporters say one of four things: they will vote for the Democratic nominee, they will not vote for President, they will write Bernie in, or they will vote for Jill Stein.

In all cases though, not good for Hillary.

[still_one]

39. except the overall popular vote has Hillary + 2.2 Million over Trump, and 3.1 Million over Sanders

something doesn't match up in the Quinnipiac sampling, and Hillary won Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania by large margins over Bernie

[KPN]

47. Bogus, incomplete, inaccurate vote counts are irelevant.

Bernie would be much closer, possibly leading her, were it not for caucuses, closed primaries and vote suppression shenanigans of Hillary campaign, DNC and Repugs. After the next 9 primaries, he would be.

Sorry to upset you rose colored view.

[merrily]

45. What's your point? And what did Hillary supporters polled say?

The one-sided arguments don't work anymore.

[Vinca]

29. November is starting to scare me to death.

[KPN]

35. Why?

[Vinca]

43. Because Bernie beats Trump in every poll by a much larger margin than Hillary,

but Bernie is obviously not going to be the nominee.

[KPN]

54. Ah! Understandable.

That's why it's so urgent to elect someone like Bernie right now. The other options will be catastrophically bad. We need to corral global warming via corralling corporate take over and corrupt governance right now. Twenty years from now will be too late for many people on earth.

[BlueStateLib]

52. The poll suggests a lot of sanders voters would be voting for trump

[George II]

53. Clinton is NOT a[n] extremely flawed candidate - what's flawed in Q's oversampling of caucasians.

Welcome back..... !

[Bleacher Creature]

57. "Bernie or Bust" in all its glory.

Bernie has better numbers because he can count on Hillary supporters who know that defeating the GOP is way more important than one's preferred candidate. Once Sanders supporters come around, those numbers will look better.

[GreatGazoo]

59. Welcome to DU