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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:32 PM May 2016

KING: Democrats, now is your last chance to change your mind about Hillary Clinton

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-democrats-change-mind-hillary-article-1.2631326

I've said it many times, but it's a huge mistake to underestimate Donald Trump's candidacy. Three brand new polls in the swing states of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania only prove this very point.

Donald Trump is up in Ohio against Hillary Clinton 43-39. This is disastrous.

In Florida and Pennsylvania, Clinton is barely clinging to a 43-42 lead in both states.

Where Clinton was down 4 points to Trump in Ohio, Bernie is up 2.

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They each set records for being disliked in America and the research shows that the majority of Americans would be voting for Trump or Clinton not because they actually like either of them, but because they despise the other. This is unbelievably sad and is all the more reason why Democrats and independents — and even Republicans — who want to stop Trump must pivot to Bernie Sanders while we still have time to do so.

Bernie is the only candidate with a positive favorability rating. He crushes it with independents. Trump performs well with men, but is despised by women. Clinton performs well with women, but has poor support among men. Bernie performs well with both women and men. People trust Bernie's integrity and honesty. More young people have voted for Bernie than Clinton and Trump combined.
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KING: Democrats, now is your last chance to change your mind about Hillary Clinton (Original Post) amborin May 2016 OP
Bernie's favorability was negative in the last poll. So he's sinking too. CrowCityDem May 2016 #1
Lol! KPN May 2016 #8
Link, Please? libdem4life May 2016 #9
At least you admit Hillary is sinking. arcane1 May 2016 #15
King: Please freak out over a single poll in May firebrand80 May 2016 #2
The choice is clear RobertEarl May 2016 #3
Keep on dreaming. tonyt53 May 2016 #5
I'm 60. evlbstrd May 2016 #12
There are clearly not enough of you...what else YOU got pkdu May 2016 #26
They have nothing RobertEarl May 2016 #13
The election that counts Demsrule86 May 2016 #17
You have it backwards Baobab May 2016 #22
I'm a 58 year old Bernie voter jg10003 May 2016 #27
Better read the polling numbers, they left out a huge voting block - minorities tonyt53 May 2016 #4
But, inevitability, and all of that. guillaumeb May 2016 #6
Shawn King is a close 2nd to HA Goodman in terms of non-objective Sanders fanboyism Tarc May 2016 #7
+1 JoePhilly May 2016 #11
+1 ! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #14
From about a week ago... libdem4life May 2016 #10
Did you see the dates Demsrule86 May 2016 #18
April and May? Sea change since then? libdem4life May 2016 #20
I am sure if I went poll shopping I could find some. Demsrule86 May 2016 #24
Oh my gawd...now it begins. Any little kink to Her Coronation brings out libdem4life May 2016 #25
I would hope that everyone retains the capacity for changing one's mind... Orsino May 2016 #16
It won't change Demsrule86 May 2016 #19
It will change if enough of us demand tnose things we need. Orsino May 2016 #21
I don't share your agenda Demsrule86 May 2016 #23
That sure sounds an awful lot like part of my agenda... Orsino May 2016 #29
How about Super Delegates? They need to drop H and go for B. YOHABLO May 2016 #28
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. The choice is clear
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

Bernie is the only Democrat who can win a majority.

H supporters need to let her down easy and come on over so we can win.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
5. Keep on dreaming.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

If the GOP started after Bernie, they have lots of ammo to work with. They have used all they have against HRC. Voters over 50 vote, and they won't vote for a socialist.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. They have nothing
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

Bernie is one of the best People candidates ever. H is scared silly by Bernie and she knows she can't win a fair election.

H needs to retire and tell her backers to support Bernie, otherwise her backers are merely helping Trump and they know it. Since they know it why do they keep doing it?

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
17. The election that counts
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

is not between Hillary and Wanders. Sanders needs to step down. He has lost...he can do now , after California...at the convention if he is that foolish, but it is over for Sanders. King's opinion is just what all people who support losing candidates believe...my candidate is the only one who can win. Not true.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
22. You have it backwards
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

Hillary is the status quo now. And people realize she's not going to stand up for them.

Also, she's dishonest.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
4. Better read the polling numbers, they left out a huge voting block - minorities
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

Besides, to take stock in a poll in May means nothing.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
7. Shawn King is a close 2nd to HA Goodman in terms of non-objective Sanders fanboyism
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:37 PM
May 2016

Also, Quinnipac oversamples white people, so Ohio is massively skewed there.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. From about a week ago...
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Real Clear Politics

Poll Date Sample MoE
Sanders (D)
Trump (R)
Spread
RCP Average 4/8 - 4/28 -- -- 51.6 38.0 Sanders +13.6
IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 50 38 Sanders +12
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 52 37 Sanders +15
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 50 40 Sanders +10
FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 53 39 Sanders +14
CBS News 4/8 - 4/12 1098 RV 3.0 53 36 Sanders +17

All of these guys are in the tank for Trump/Hillary...I don't think so.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. April and May? Sea change since then?
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Yes, all polls are useless when they don't support the PC narrative.

May 6 to May 9 up 11 points. CNN. That's pretty fresh. But if you can find others that support your opinion, I'm open to change.

ETA: latest polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
24. I am sure if I went poll shopping I could find some.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016

By the way, the polls are within the margin of error except for PA...which is an outlier...no way he is up that much in PA. The polls do show Trump gaining and why not? While the Dems have to continue the zombie primary thanks to Bernie...Trump is busy working on the general. Our nominee Hillary is forced to fight a two-fronted battle. Thanks Bernie!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
25. Oh my gawd...now it begins. Any little kink to Her Coronation brings out
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016

The Victim Bubble, wrapped inside the Clinton Bubble, wrapped inside the Shame on Bernie Bubble.

That's politics, my friend. Just a Heads Up that it's more than a Coronation or Someone's Turn. Our nominee runs to the Republicans/Bush Cartel for more money...that's the thing. Where she feels right at home. She's got a huge Baggage Car filled with Lots of Laundry. More stacks up each day.

Don't bring the Democratic Socialist into this little tete a tete. And still you wonder why many of us Lefties aren't one bit fond of The Chosen One?

Like DWS...she really likes Republicans. So I say, don't let the door hit you....well, you get the drift.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. I would hope that everyone retains the capacity for changing one's mind...
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

...to include our candidates.

The progressive change that we at DU like to talk about wanting doesn't appear to have taken the party by storm. That needs to change at the convention.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
19. It won't change
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

Bernie will lose before the convention or after the convention ...but lose he will ...in fact, he already has. The majority does not agree with you. And I have never understood how you think you would win a general with a candidate that can not win a primary,McGovern all over again ....only this time there are rules that have stopped him.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
21. It will change if enough of us demand tnose things we need.
Tue May 10, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

Put me down as a yes, and as a voter who isn't hung up on a fucking candidate "winning" or "losing." I have an actual agenda, and hope others share it.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
23. I don't share your agenda
Tue May 10, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

Us lesser mortals are more concerned with not allowing the GOP to pack the court and end a woman's choice...you know unimportant stuff like that.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
28. How about Super Delegates? They need to drop H and go for B.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:44 AM
May 2016

Or we might just get a narcissistic megalomaniac for president.

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