Clinton pledges that no family pays more than 10 percent of income on child care

[Sparkly]

Clinton pledges that no family pays more than 10 percent of income on child care

LEXINGTON, Ky. — Hillary Clinton pledged Tuesday that as president she will ensure that families pay no more than 10 percent of their income on child care, a significant and rising cost for working parents.

"It just doesn't make sense," Clinton said of the cost of quality care for young children and the difficulties faced by working parents. "It’s the most important job that any of us can do, and we’re making it really hard and really expensive.”

The Democratic presidential front-runner's campaign said the proposed mix of federal subsidies or tax credits to pay for the new benefit will be announced later. Clinton will also propose raising wages for child-care workers and expanding home-visit programs for new parents.

"Secretary Clinton is acutely aware that the middle class is extremely stretched when it comes to affording quality childcare," campaign policy adviser Ann O'Leary said in a statement. "While middle class wages have stagnated in the last decade, costs of childcare have gone up by nearly 25 percent."

More:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/10/clinton-to-pledge-that-no-family-pays-more-than-10-percent-of-income-on-child-care/

This has always been one of her best ideas, imho. Childcare is so important, especially when most people in poverty are women and children. It makes it very difficult for a single mother to earn a living, which in turn impacts children's lives.

[djean111]

1. How would she do that? More "tax credits" that the poor cannot use? n/t

[Sparkly]

3. Subsidies for low-income households; tax credits for middle class.

[merrily]

55. When it doesn't happen, they'll yell "She's not a dictator."

"Didn't you take civics in seventh grade?" And so on.

[SheilaT]

2. I'm very eager to learn exactly how she expects to do this.

Maybe she thinks that all who use child care earn six figures.

[Sparkly]

4. I posted the link. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. I saw zero details in that link. No plan. Maybe I missed it. nt

[NWCorona]

13. There's minimal info in the supplied link. Just saying tax credits and subsidies doesn't cut it. Nt

[SheilaT]

16. There aren't any substantial details given.

Subsidies and tax breaks. First off, with tax breaks you still have to pay up front for the child care before getting money back after a year or more. Parents will always be scrambling to pay.

Subsidies? What will be the paperwork requirements to get the subsidies? What would the wait time for approval be?

Too bad we can't just have a system of federally funded day care centers. When you enroll your kid you show them last year's 1040, and you're charged according to that.

[Sparkly]

20. This is new today.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-child-care_us_57313fd7e4b096e9f09275b6

Details forthcoming.

I agree about federally funded daycare. This is a good step in that direction.

[SheilaT]

24. I won't hold my breath about seeing

real, substantive details any time before November. And afterward, we'll hear that (with great regret) it's just not going to be possible to subsidize childcare, and the tax credits won't be worth much either. But there will be plenty of money to invade another country, have no fear about that.

[fleur-de-lisa]

23. Sounds like rainbows and unicorns to me!

[99Forever]

57. The details are contained in her Goldman Sachs speech transcripts.

Just do a search of them.

[Dragonfli]

63. Of course, who else would she release the details to if not her valued constituents? /nt

[aikoaiko]

5. Maybe her bankster friends can give the poor loans for child-care.

[Sparkly]

8. It'd be great if her "bankster friends" just paid for it.

In a way they would, since it'd be a federal investment.

[Jitter65]

6. This is not new. The Clintons both have been working hard for childcare and children since the 90's

http://clinton2.nara.gov/WH/New/Childcare/acomplish.html

[Sparkly]

12. Yes -- it's always been a priority for her.

[Baobab]

72. That money is earmarked for her pals in the gas & electric, health insurance and drug industries!

Why take less?

[RadiationTherapy]

30. It'll be neat to see some progress on it only 20+ years later.

[synergie]

71. Perhaps Bernie will be willing to do something to acheive his stated goals too?

After all, he's in the place where laws get made and it would really be neat to see some progress on the stuff he said is important, but somehow failed to push in his decades in congress.

[Silver_Witch]

77. And still no results.

And probably no hope for the future either.

[CoffeeCat]

7. Earlier this morning Clinton was touting a plan to raise childcare worker wages

Clinton said that the average childcare worker earns only $10.00 per hour. Clinton has a plan to raise those wages. I certainly agree that childcare workers deserve better pay.

However, if she's going to be increasing childcare-worker costs, that would raise the cost of childcare. Most likely, the consumers would pay higher rates for childcare.

So, how will THIS program work? If childcare costs will rise, how does Hillary propose that families pay only 10 percent of their income on child care? Some are paying 30 percent now. They'd be paying more if the cost of childcare increases, due to her plan to raise wages of childcare workers.

[Adrahil]

31. Did you actually go to the link? NT

[Hekate]

52. Thant would be hard, because reading. Or something.

[Autumn]

60. A "combination of subsidized child care and tax credits.

The campaign did not provide more information on how these subsidies and credits would work, or how big they would be, saying only that such details would come later this year."

Elect me and I'll tell you?

[scscholar]

54. Why can't rising waters rise all ships?

Besides, this will cause a massive increase in childcare after it becomes affordable so the demand for workers will go up this increasing wages.

[CentralCoaster]

9. More Clinton typical bullshit. Keep people in debt, make them work, throw in child care.

Fuck that shit. How about single payer and affordable no-debt college?

How about healthy families instead of parents having to work multiple jobs just to stay even.

I'm sick of her. Fresh from a Bernie event, in person.

Fuck that Clinton shit.

[Sparkly]

17. Hello.

She doesn't "keep people in debt." On the economy:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/

On healthcare: We are nowhere near single payer while Republicans are still voting every other week to repeal ACA. So her proposal is a realistic way to get to universal coverage:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/

On college: She does have no-debt college, where "no student has to borrow to pay for tuition, books, or fees to attend a four-year public college in their state."
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/college/

On labor: She'd "support working families through equal pay, paid family leave, earned sick days, fair schedules, and quality affordable child care."
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/labor/

She is VERY strong on a whole range of family issues, and her plans are feasible economically and politically.

[CentralCoaster]

27. Unless she fundamentally changes the dynamic of wealth inequality, it's all window dressing.

You and I will probably just disagree no matter what-- I'm never going to warm up to Hillary Clinton.

I've read her pages, most of the content has been changed to sound more like Sanders' platform.

Her actions speak louder than her words, she can't answer yes or no questions and can't IMHO be trusted.

We're way past incremental change; even if we completely arrested the shift of wealth to the powerful few, we'd be stuck with gross inequality.

Unless a candidate thinks and dreams big, there's no way that we'll reverse the trends that hurt us all.

[840high]

66. I have no use for

her or her pledges.

[libtodeath]

89. Was this a joke post?

There is nothing there but statements,no plans.

[angrychair]

10. More "feel good" bullshit

"Tax subsidies" and credits don't change the actual out-of-pocket expenses themselves, that they cannot afford in the first place. That only works for rich people like Clinton.

Not to mention, like most of the things she says, it is always "10 or 20 or 30 years away" but we are working on it....sure you are. Say whatever you can get elected. They criticize Sanders for making unicorn and rainbow promises but gobble this crap up, no questions asked.

[Sparkly]

19. Tax credits are tangible dollars and cents.

Right now, there are deductions up to $6,000 for two children, I believe.

There would be direct subsidies for families in need.

Here's another article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-child-care_us_57313fd7e4b096e9f09275b6

[NCTraveler]

14. In the coming years I hope we see many more pictures like this.

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Sanders behind Clinton supporting her compassionate plans for families and children. If Sanders doesn't want to continue down such an important path, we have great people like Warren who will. Clinton has been leading the way for a long time.

[Sparkly]

22. Wouldn't that be nice?

What has he said about childcare, by the way?

[NCTraveler]

25. Universal or Bust. nt.

[SheilaT]

59. Keep in mind that picture got posted

after Hillary made some snarky comment asking where was Bernie when she first proposed her health care thing in the 90's. She implied he was nowhere to be seen. In reality, he was literally right behind her.

And now he's the one who wants a truly universal, single payer system, and she's saying it can't be done. I sure as hell hope he DOESN'T support her version.

[Exilednight]

15. I'm curious to know how she

Is going to raise child care providers wages AND cut how much people spend on child care. Where does the money come from to offset her wages?

[frylock]

47. They'll be reimbursed with unicorn faeces.

Am I doing this right? Is it unicorns or leprechauns?

[Baobab]

73. bring in more au pairs from EU countries that get paid room and board plus $100/week

it likely is more now...but probably not that much

[Dragonfli]

18. So that is the pitch she has been using to court Right Wing donors and Bush loyalists!

Or she is merely on the flip side at the moment of one of her many flops to come, after all, she is not only anointed, she s the Flip-Flop Queen of triangulation.

[Sparkly]

21. Huh? She's always championed women/children/family issues.

No flip, no flop.

[mooseprime]

28. How is voting FOR the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas

championing women/children/family issues, exactly?

[Sparkly]

44. I get it -- I say children, you say cluster bombs!

Children! Cluster bombs! Children! Cluster bombs!

Separate topic we've been through before. Nice try at derailing the thread.

[Dragonfli]

62. Not a seperate topic! those CHILDREN were the victims of CLUSTER BOMBS, get it now?

Do brown children/families not count? are they sub-human? Are they not Children for some other reason?

Do you not even care about their lives, making them somehow irrelevant in your mind?

[Dragonfli]

33. Cluster bombs and ending welfare assistance to poor women/children/family isn't championing

[center][font size="3"]Cluster Bombs Are Not Good for Children, Hillary[/font][/center]

In her autobiography, Living History, Senator Hillary Clinton portrays herself as an advocate for children, a defender of women and human rights. In fact, the Clintons have a long history of sacrificing the rights, even the lives of children, for political expediency. It is time to set the record straight.

On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill--a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas--presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world.
The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children....

Snip

...Because Clinton is now taking credit for the White House years, when she was a partner in power, we should also look closely at the Clinton policy regarding landmines, an issue of great concern to parents, to all those who care for children. The U.S. is the leading manufacturer of landmines. For families across the rest of the globe, landmines are buried terror. More than 100 million landmines are deployed in over 60 countries worldwide--nine million in Angola, 10 million in Cambodia. About 20,000 M14 antipersonnel mines are buried in the mountain areas of Yong-do, South Korea. According to U.N. estimates, 26,000 people, mostly civilians in developing countries, are killed or mutilated by landmines every year. In rural areas landmines are so ubiquitous and lethal, peasants risk their lives to earn a living tilling the soil and planting crops.

The worldwide movement to ban landmines burgeoned in the Clinton years. It was a visionary U.S. citizen, Jody Williams of Vermont, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to end the ignominy of landmines. And it was primarily in defense of children that Princess Diana, speaking from a minefield in Angola, raised international awareness about devastation caused by weapons from the West.

In December 1997, 137 nations, more than two-thirds of the world, signed the Ottawa treaty, an agreement to ban the use, production, stockpiling and transfer of anti-personnel landmines. How did the Clintons respond to world opinion, to the humanitarian movement against landmines?

President Clinton flat out refused to become party to the Ottawa convention....

Snip

...The Premise of Foreign Policy

It was Madeline Albright, Clinton's Secretary of State, who fully revealed the Clinton Administration's cold indifference to human rights. In her notorious interview on national TV with Leslie Stahl, Albright said that Clinton policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children, children who were dying of disease and malnutrition as she spoke. For the record, Albright did not deny that half a million children under the age of five perished as the result of sanctions. When Stahl asked: "Is the price worth it?" Albright said without qualification: "We think the price is worth it."
......Child mortality, as well as the death rate for the elderly and the chronically ill, skyrocketed. Malnutrition debilitated the country.

I have no doubt that Senator Clinton is sincere when she promotes domestic programs for children--projects to reduce childhood obesity, plans to curtail teenage smoking.

But it is clear from her record--her voting record and her White House experience--that Senator Clinton, like her husband, does not measure human rights by one yardstick. The lives of Arab and Iranian children are measured on a different scale. We need a president who cares for all God's children, not just the white kids

[Sparkly]

45. Derailment attempt failed.

Take it to another thread. Already been down this road.

[Dragonfli]

61. Directly related to the OP, unless you also consider brown women/children/families seperate

and not part of those she supposedly "fihts for).

I believe you might since you disregard such an on-topic response. Too bad they were/are not white and thus considered unworthy of counting.

[Go Vols]

26. :/

"While middle class wages have stagnated in the last decade, costs of childcare have gone up by nearly 25 percent."

I would rather hear how she can fix those stagnant wages than how to live poor.

[vintx]

29. Hear hear!

[Sparkly]

32. She's got that, too.

A plan to raise American incomes
Hillary will:
Give working families a raise, and tax relief that helps them manage rising costs.
Create good-paying jobs and get pay rising by investing in infrastructure, clean energy, and scientific and medical research to strengthen our economy and growth.
Close corporate tax loopholes and make the most fortunate pay their fair share.
Hillary believes the defining economic challenge of our time is raising incomes for hardworking Americans.

Too many families are working harder and harder, but still not getting ahead. Our country is standing again, but we’re not yet running the way we should be. From her first day in office to the last, Hillary Clinton will fight for you and for more take-home pay so you can get ahead and stay ahead.

Hillary understands that in order to raise incomes, we need strong growth, fair growth, and long-term growth. And she has a plan to get us there. ---> Economy: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/

Labor: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/labor/

Workforce and Skills: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/workforce-and-skills/

[Go Vols]

34. So with all this extra money

everyone will have,no one would pay 10% of income towards childcare to start with?

[Sparkly]

36. Some might not. But she'd also raise childcare workers' pay.

[Human101948]

40. Sounds like magical thinking, no details, just wild promises...

How about eliminating the "carried interest" rule? Probably not because that would impact those Republican donors that Hillary is now courting so assiduously.

[arcane1]

35. And how will she get that through a republican congress?

Isn't that the question we always get about Bernie's ideas? She can "propose" anything she wants.

And notice the focus on the middle class, who are far more likely to already afford child care?

[Sparkly]

37. Oh what an interesting idea!!

There's still a Republican Congress!??

Middle class is who gets expanded tax credits; poor families get subsidies.

[arcane1]

38. You have no answer, as expected. Just weak PR.

Another failure.

[Sparkly]

39. How would you like me to answer that?

She'll get it through by showing the costs and benefits, working with Democrats in the House and Senate to put a bill together, helping it get passed and then signing it.

This is a little different than having a general goal, or griping about what's wrong, without any feasible solution that adds up.

[Human101948]

41. It is just as vacuous as anything Bernie has proposed... only not as appealing...

"working with Democrats in the House and Senate to put a bill together, helping it get passed and then signing it."

How is this going to happen when Congress is in the hands of a Republican majority which the mucky mucks of the DNC like DWS have failed so miserably to reverse or even slow down.

[Sparkly]

42. Here's how

First, it's quite substantial, not "vacuous," and "appealing" is in the eye of the beholder. MANY families are struggling with this - Democrats and Republicans - and women in particular.

Second, the numbers in her proposals add up. They are perhaps less "appealing" because of that, but they are realistic. That helps with passage.

Third, Clinton is contributing funds to help down-ticket Democrats in Congressional races. That helps a LOT.

[Silver_Witch]

78. But you said Bernie couldn't do his promises

cause of the Republican House and Senate...does Hillary have a magic wand.

No she will swap birth control rights for childcare! Those women will sure need childcare then.

[MrMickeysMom]

43. This pales in comparison to the savings of single pay health care under Sanders

Those same families won't have enough of of pot to piss in, let alone a window to through it out of. Childhood illnesses would eliminate the house where the window would have been.

So much for a future that working families actually need to imagine is theirs.

[Sparkly]

46. Except, even IF that plan were to pass

(while the GOP is still voting to repeal ACA every other week)... it would run up the debt so fast, the tax base would collapse.

Then, I agree -- families would have nothing, childhood illnesses would be back to the dark ages, and working families would be screwed.

[Baobab]

80. When WTO gets jurisdiction, everything the insurance companies dont want after 1998 is toast.

So community rating and guaranteed issue - will be toast, if any insurer gets their country to challenge the limits- (that is what would have to happen with WTO but not with TiSA which has ISDS- allowing countries treasuries to be looted directly by corporations with the help of arbitral bodies without national involvement)

Other parts of ACA likely to be challenged are al the changes from total deregulation that reduce profits-

limits on pricing between old and young, toast, prohibitions against medical underwriting medical risks, may be toast..


Look up "Fair and Equitable Treatment" legal standard, also "standstill" and "rollback" in the trade agreement context.

[Baobab]

81. Single payer costs less than what we do now.

Shhhh!

For the real reason they block it, read my .sig

[Baobab]

74. We''re gradually morphing into a country that is pushing its poorer citizens to emigrate elsewhere

thats beginning to be discussed by economists in Europe. Since the big squeeze is coming, countries want their 'poors' to move elsewhere before there are no jobs. Then they become some other country's problem. Its like a game of hot potato. thats happening with towns too. They use all sorts of euphemisms.

[MrMickeysMom]

75. We sure see it going on around the world...

That's cold as a motherfucker, and I'm not taking it anymore. These people need to get real or get the fuck out of a party platform that's as far away as those refugees are from their home.

[Baobab]

82. There is really no choice, people have to live somewhere, they have to pay to occupy space, voting

is dependent on living somewhere. Right to exist is still dispensed by countries.

Read Chapter Nine "the Decline of the Nation State and the Ending of the Rights of Man" by Hannah Arendt in her "The Origins of Totalitarianism"

[MrMickeysMom]

86. Aww.... Maaaaam!

Do I hafta READ?

[nemo137]

48. If (and that's a big if) it happens, probably a bigger deal than tuition-free college.

[Baobab]

84. Please read what US is doing- waging a global war against public education.

http://www.eua.be/Libraries/publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.pdf?sfvrsn=2

http://www.eua.be/Libraries/higher-education/GATS_en.pdf?sfvrsn=0

[baldguy]

49. Came here expecting that "progressive" Sanders fans would try to spin this as a *bad* thing

Was disappointed to see what I expected.

[Hekate]

51. It's nice to know we're all on the same side, right? And that Democrats can count on "Democrats" ...

... (cough cough) when it's time for us to all pitch in and win in November.

Jeezo peezo.

[Baobab]

83. A vote for Bernie is a vote for democracy

I will be happy to vote for the candidate whose values I share, Bernie Sanders.

[Armstead]

88. No it's the hypocrisy of people who would call this a "pony" if Bernie had proposed it

And the hypocritical pandering Clinton, who would also slam it as "unrealistic" if Sanders had proposed it.

[Hekate]

50. Back in the '80s my takehome salary = rent + childcare for two kids. Thank God my ex....

...paid a little child support, until he couldn't. Then thank God I had some savings to tide me over. Because, food and shoes.

Childcare costs can be brutal.

I am so glad Hillary is addressing this issue now. She has been on the side of women and children since she was a young lawyer working with Marion Wright Edelman.

[AzDar]

53. And We ALL Know What A Hillary Clinton "Pledge" Is Worth...

[Dragonfli]

64. A half pence? just a guess.

[GeorgeGist]

56. "If it's really ...

the most important job that any of us can do,...

Why pay the help so poorly?

[RedCappedBandit]

58. Because our economy does not compensate people based on their real value

and that is exactly how neoliberals want it.

[Dragonfli]

65. Also why Mrs. Clinton gets paid $225,000 for an hour talking and Haitians earn $0.35/hr WORKING /nt

Clinton decided the "value of compensation" for both.

[Sparkly]

67. The topic is childcare.

Not speeches, not munitions, not Haitians.

[Dragonfli]

87. Excuse me, I was addressing RedCappedBandit, you never learned manners or so it would appear.

If I wish to leave a side topic discussion that was ALSO not addressed to you and discuss again the panderings of a candidate regarding child care, a politician responsible for more children's deaths than she could ever learn the names of, I shall and will.

In the meantime do not come to me until I ask you.

OR learn some manners and do not interject yourself into a side discussion that neither addresses you by name nor asks your advice.

Thank you.

Good Day Mam/Sir.

[Sparkly]

68. Her proposal includes raising pay for childcare providers. nt

[RedCappedBandit]

69. Marginal increases in wages to a fraction of the labor force

is a small gesture that does little to mitigate the inequity inherent in our economic system. The wealthiest are not compensated according to their real productivity, nor are the poorest.

Of course, wage increases are good. But your response did not address my post.

[Sparkly]

70. I agree with your point about labor and value (though not the crack about "neoliberals")

And I agree with your post here.

[Baobab]

85. supply and demand so wages will fall towards zero as technology becomes better at saving labor

Basically, we need to figure out a new system or face a global crisis - an ideology that frames more and more of humanity as worthless as technology frees humanity from drudge work.

Thats what the secret deals they are signing lock in.

[Silver_Witch]

76. Let me use three Clinton Supporters Responses to Proposals By Bernie

1. Who will pay for it?
2. How will she get this approved through the GOP controlled Congress
3. Rich people (like Trump or Clarence Thomas) will get a 10% discount as well so we should not do it cause Rich will benefit.

Remember those responses Clinton Supporters - see how silly they ARE???

[Live and Learn]

79. So unicorns are in now, huh? Will fairy dust be showing up next? nt