This hardcore Union Labor man doesn't find Clinton liberal at all. Discuss. nt

[silvershadow]

[LexVegas]

1. You think Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster. I don't think you're a liberal. nt

[brooklynite]

2. Since you don't want to discuss the issue, why should we?

[silvershadow]

3. Oh I have, at length, for months on end. nt

[MirrorAshes]

4. Well aren't you just a special little snowflake.

Everybody stop what you're doing! This guy doesn't think Hillary is a liberal!

[silvershadow]

5. Yep. A special, lifelong Union labor snowflake. nt

[puffy socks]

12. In an effort to dispute what they say is a false narrative that union voters

are closely split between Hillary Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, a group of more than 20 unions representing more than 10 million workers released a statement on Monday reaffirming support for Mrs. Clinton.

“Secretary Clinton has proven herself as the fighter and champion working people and their families need in the White House,” says the statement, which was embraced by several large unions, including the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, the American Federation of Teachers, and the Service Employees International Union. “That is why, of all unions endorsing a candidate in the Democratic primary, the vast majority of the membership in these unions has endorsed her.”

The statement is partly a reaction to the aftermath of the announcement by the A.F.L.-C.I.O., a federation of unions, that it would not vote during its executive council meeting this week on whether to endorse a candidate in the Democratic presidential primaries, essentially postponing an endorsement until the primaries are no longer competitive.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/22/unions-say-theres-no-split-they-support-hillary-clinton/

[silvershadow]

13. Yeah, the Union Presidents and others in the management of the organization often do that.

Most of the rank and file I know vote their consciences.

**ON EDIT: Changed the verbiage to accommodate the sensitivities of some union folk here.

[Ferd Berfel]

14. That's the problem Most of Clintons Union "endorsements"

came without rank-and-file involvement. Just the elite.

Funny how that works.

[silvershadow]

15. It is all just a part of the window dressing. nt

[Kingofalldems]

16. As a union member I never refer to union leaders as 'bosses'.

I call my union president just that--president. Members voted for him.

Fact. He is not a boss, nor is any union president.

I consider the phrase union boss as a right wing smear.

[silvershadow]

17. Oh by all means, let me rush to correct my error. I tried to dumb it down for the masses.

My mistake.

[Kingofalldems]

20. What the hell are you talking about?

Non responsive.

[silvershadow]

21. Oh it was responsive alright. Already changed to accommodate your sensitivities. Tell me,

which Union do you belong to?

[Kingofalldems]

22. NALC

And thank you.

[silvershadow]

23. You are welcome. I hope the change in terminology will suffice. nt

[puffy socks]

18. Yeah , when the article says union members support Hillary it's just union bosses

but when they support Bernie it's definitely the members.

[politicaljunkie41910]

26. So I guess you talked to the majority of that 10 million they referenced in the post.

Must have took you quite a while I imagine. Either that or you're just blowing smoke.

[puffy socks]

6. ..

[Fawke Em]

7. I don't either.

Neither do many others....

?list=PLqSpk99bLYIRKq4aVpSe6NfWhbri-i6z1

[Sparkly]

19. LOL

[kgnu_fan]

8. She is NEO-liberal. No progressive. She belongs to 1% class.

[Tarc]

9. Most union workers disagree with you

It's ok to hold and retain a minorioty point-of-view, as long as you don't expect/demend to be catered to. (which you're kind doing, um, right now)

[Broward]

10. Some people, you included, thankfully still get it.

The Third Way sheep, however, are probably a lost cause at this point.

[NCTraveler]

11. Why are you trying to drag us backward. The logo you have isn't even close to subliminal.

lol. Just kidding. Wanted to see what it feels like to actually present such an argument.

[dmosh42]

24. As a life member(CWA) I agree that if you favor NAFTA, "Free trade" agreements and other.....

big bank/corporation ideas, then it's hard to consider her being in the liberal spectrum. My union, I'm proud to say, backs Bernie top to bottom, and he has spent time with us picketing in NY.

[silvershadow]

25. Thank you! I just posted a list of Bernie's Union endorsements in a separate post.