Bernie #1, Trump #2, Hillary #3 in General Election

[egalitegirl]

Based on the turnout so far, it is clear that Hillary will lose to Trump in the general election but Bernie will beat Trump.

Total Democratic Party turnout: 22,355,331
Total Republican Party turnout: 26,651,719

However, we need to add to the tally of Bernie Sanders the number of independent voters whose votes were suppressed and who would have voted for Bernie in the primaries. Since independents hate both Republicans and Democrats, it is clear that Bernie will carry this bloc. Bernie would have got at least 6 million more votes had every state been an open primary, but let us come up with an estimate on the safe side and consider it to be just 5.5 million. Adding that to the total number of Democratic Party votes, we get the true total.

Total votes for Bernie Sanders in the General Election in states that have voted so far: 27,855,331
Total votes for Donald Trump in the General Election in states voted that have so far: 26,651,719
Total votes for Hillary Clinton in the General Election in states that have voted so far: 22,355,331

[Tarc]

1. #berniemath, plucking numbers out of the æther to suits one's needs since 2015!

[Trust Buster]

2. You have to be on a ticket to run for President. Sanders isn't.......LOL

[JaneyVee]

3. #BernieMath

Always hilariously wrong.

[egalitegirl]

7. #NoMoreVoterSuppression

I guess you believe that the voters who voted for Bernie Sanders, John Kasich, Ted Cruz and other candidates should be suppressed and the only voters who should be counted are those who voted for either Trump or Hillary in the primaries. That is what is called voter suppression.

[JaneyVee]

8. Caucuses are straight up voter suppression. Lead the charge for abolishment.

But Bernie would be even further behind if it werent for caucuses, so I guess youre cool with those.

[egalitegirl]

10. No cheating was possible in caucuses except for using magic coins

The reason Bernie won caucuses was that it was not possible to cheat. We are open to open primaries everywhere as long as there is no cheating. Would you accept elections without cheating?

[JaneyVee]

12. Caucuses are straight up voter suppression.

If youre concerned about voter suppression START THERE. And our primaries should be 50 state closed primaries, no superdelegates, popular vote takes nomination.

I absolutely do not think independents or republicans should choose the Democratic party nominee.

[egalitegirl]

17. I already said I am okay doing away with caucuses

Blame Debbie and Hillary. They control the party. There is no use yelling at me. Bernie played by their rules and won those states. He played by their rules in states with open primaries and won there too. The only way to keep him down was to indulge in voter suppression and use magic coins for coin tosses.

[JaneyVee]

19. "Blame Debbie and Hillary". And youre bringing up low info voters???

STATES DECIDE THE ELECTION PROCESS. GO AWAY UNTIL YOU DO MORE RESEARCH. #BernieMath

[egalitegirl]

23. States with leaders who get funds from the top

Obviously you are clueless about how money power works. #LowInformationHillaryVoter

[JaneyVee]

25. SMH. What pizza toppings do you like?

[MineralMan]

4. To learn more about imaginary numbers, here's a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_number

[egalitegirl]

9. In HillaryMath, 5.5 million is an imaginary number?

It doesn't match up with the link you provided. Must be #HillaryMath of the #LowInformationHillaryVoter where you confuse ordinary numbers with imaginary numbers.

[JaneyVee]

14. You started an op using bullshit math and youre talking about low info voters???

Heres a hint: you wanna stick around for a while? Drop the insults QUICK.

[egalitegirl]

18. You are the one who posted an insult

You use insults like #BernieMath but cannot handle the responses?

[JaneyVee]

24. You posted literal nonsense. Nothing grounded in reality.

[griffi94]

5. Except Bernie will not beat Trump

Because Bernie will not be our nominee.

Bernie will not be our nominee because he lost the primary.

Bernie lost the primary because more Democratic primary voters
preferred Hillary.

Go Hillary

[NCTraveler]

6. This Independent was smart enough to change registration in the primary to vote for Clinton.

Back to Independent now. It was amazingly simple. In your #berniemath you forgot to add this Independent to the Clinton column.

[egalitegirl]

13. Based on your old post, you are making up this stuff

This is what you posted in 2014 in response to someone who posted, "I'm a populist; I no longer vote for Democrats."

Your response: That is a declaration that you will no longer vote for Democrats, period. You need to go. There is no reason for you to be here, working to change the party, while helping to get Republicans elected.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024449907#post137

[NCTraveler]

16. It contradicts my post in no way.

I encourage people to click your link to see how dishonest you are being here. What you are saying isn't only dishonest, it makes no sense.

[egalitegirl]

20. Yes, please click and see the truth

OP in that thread said s/he had switched parties.

[JaneyVee]

22. There is absolutely no truth in any of your op.

[NCTraveler]

26. I find it hard to believe that you believe what you are saying.

[egalitegirl]

28. Exact quote from the OP in that thread

OP in that thread: "I re-registered as a Green Party member in 2010."

All I did was to search for your id and "registered democrat" on the site and sure enough I found a thread. Why do you keep claiming the contrary?

[NCTraveler]

30. You didn't find what you think you did.

You didn't even take the very small amount of time it takes to read their whole op. They outright stated they wouldn't vote for a democrat.

This is too funny. You took the time to search for a gotcha and then didn't take the time to read.

Impressive.

[chknltl]

11. With Trump now presumptive his numbers go up...

...from here. This doesn't even include those conservatives who would choose to sit this one out because of their clown car options but would vote for Satin if needsbe in order to defeat a Clinton.

These figures show an alarming trend egalitegirl.

[egalitegirl]

15. Independents will vote for Sanders or Trump

Everyone can see that the two people pulling in independents are Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. Between the two, I think Bernie will get that bloc. Hillary stands no chance. This is why we need to nominate Bernie.

[JaneyVee]

21. You are just literally making shit up now.

Independents split about 45/45 left and right with about only 12% actual independents. STOP WITH THE BERNIE MATH. Math should be grounded in REALITY. LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY!

[egalitegirl]

27. Are your stats from Nate Silver?

Did you get your numbers from Nate Silver or CNN?

[JaneyVee]

29. Math.

[Stallion]

31. Projected Electoral College votes for Bernie Sanders-ZERO

because he will not be on the General Election Ballot

[onenote]

32. Because every independent voter would have voted for Sanders

and none of the thousands of Democrats who didn't get to vote in NY would have voted for Clinton.

The reality, as has been demonstrated over and over and over, is that turnout in presidential primaries is not a predictor of the outcome of general elections.

If you can prove otherwise, please do.

[thelordofhell]

33. The ignorance of the popularity of President Obama here is astounding.......

Bernie Sanders openly dismissed President Obama and even called for a primary challenger in 2012 = Losing The Primary

Donald Trump's overt racism and denial that President Obama is even a citizen of the United States = Losing The General

Hillary Clinton, formerly a Primary opponent of Obama in 2008, becomes part of his cabinet and praises President Obama's accomplishments = Next President Of The United States