The latest Quinnipiac poll is everything we've been waiting for!

[Playinghardball]

Sanders beats Trump EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Florida:
Trump 42 vs. Clinton 43 - Clinton +1
Trump 42 vs. Sanders 44 - Sanders +2

Ohio:
Trump 43 vs. Clinton 39 - Trump +4
Trump 41 vs. Sanders 43 - Sanders +2

Pennsylvania:
Trump 42 vs. Clinton 43 - Clinton +1
Trump 41 vs. Sanders 47 - Sanders +6

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

[Gomez163]

1. Too bad he can't beat Hillary

[timmymoff]

7. enjoy President Trump

Hilary supporters, choosing to overlook her negatives and the various ways she has alienated the left we warned you. You didn't heed our warning. Now get out there and sell that flawed republican candidate in democratic clothing.

[Gomez163]

9. He would be dead meat in the general election.

First it would be the red-baiting. Followed by the ads attacking his raising taxes. By September he would be trailing by 20 points.

[timmymoff]

21. She is dead meat

now. Not many care for her but her followers who choose to avoid her record. it should be interesting watching the Hillary supporters turn to almost begging us to support her, good luck with that. I have no interest.

[Gomez163]

23. She has the most votes of any primary candidate, is beating Sanders by 3.5 million votes

and is leading by almost 800 delegates.

[timmymoff]

26. yup

she has democrat votes.. how many open primaries has she won again? You know the ones that
mirror an actual election. Get busy selling her, you won't have many of our help in doing so. Good luck in November.

[AZ Mike]

36. They just don't get it.

The General is open.

Congratulations on the DEMOCRATIC win. Good luck with the OPEN win.

They're busy focusing on 30% of the electorate and beating their chests in pyrrhic victory. They should lift their heads up and look out at the 30% plus 42% Democratic-Independent coalition.

But, a loss is on their heads, not ours.

[kaleckim]

53. Most of them

have not moved on mentally from the mid 1990s. They really, really haven't made sense of how radically the country has changed in the last decade or so. It is also amazing how much they've buried their heads in the sand this election cycle. Sanders supporters were warning them about these things for months now, and now that they're starting to actually face the reality we've been trying to force them to acknowledge, they're starting to panic, and are demanding that we bail them out of the horrible situation they've gotten themselves into. They should, and her army online do not help her candidacy. They're dismissive, arrogant and often, completely out of touch. Have zero interest in seeing these issues from the perspective of others, especially those not as well off as they are.

[GoneFishin]

56. Fuck 'em. Some damage can't be reversed. They will have to live with the consequences of their blind

arrogant, grade school cheerleading.

[lunamagica]

67. How many open primaries has Hillary won, you ask? 13 open primaries

Way more than Sanders

[floppyboo]

43. Bernie gets 25% of the Republican Vote in Vermont.

I don't have the #'s for 2000 Hillary in New York. Would be interesting.

[kaleckim]

52. What nonsense

First off, he polls much better versus Trump and all the other Republicans, and has for months. He is far more trusted and far more liked (most popular candidate running, she would be the most unpopular Democratic nominee in party history and the second most unpopular candidate in polling history), does far better with independents.

You seem to think that this is 1993 and your silly little scenario is a done deal. The country's changed, it has, and people have been radicalized, which is why the red-baiting has not worked what so ever on Sanders. The media says or writes the word socialist more than the word the when they write about or interview him, and look at how much lies and manipulation have been thrown out there about him and his plans. I also find it comical that you seem to think that it is more likely that HE will run into some unforeseen troubles in the months ahead. Given the FBI investigation, her Wall Street ties and transcripts, her foundation, her top donors, that's not at all believable or logical.

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. The red baiting has worked

but not in the way they expect.

Yesterday we had 15 Percent of the HRC supporters say they will vote Trump in Nov. Purely anecdotal, and it is a problem if you are HRC... and CNN did this interview in WV and I talked to a similar lady in San Diego a few months ago.

She had a HRC for president on the old El Camino, and I mean ancient, and a Trump for President bumper sticker with a HRC for President one, shall we say this reporter went WHIPLASH.. she was white, and in her late 70s. I foolishly thought, this has to be a his and her El Camino. Nope. She was going to vote for HRC in my primary June 7, becuase she needs to stop the commie. those were her words. Look at the age again. I truly get it ok. Then she proudly said she could not vote for HRC in November. Why? Morals, the Clintons are amoral folk. And we cannot have them in the WH again.

I filed that one as a mental note, and yesterday when CNN interviewed an older woman in WV, reporter was just as confused as initially I was, but she said almost the same words, I was dying. It is like did they find a clone or what? The other question is... how much of this is out there for real? That is the relevant question.

But yes, some of the red baiting has worked. Just not with the 65 and under crowd? Maybe 55 and under?

[kaleckim]

79. I get what you're saying

but I would argue that the red baiting has worked this election cycle, it worked with older people that have had decades of propaganda zapped into their heads and wouldn't (and don't) support Sanders now. To some of those people, Clinton would probably be called a leftist, which is comical. My uncle is one of those people, he is constantly talking about Obama being a communist (LOL!). I think most people can see through the nonsense and don't buy that the relatively moderate and mainstream (according to popular opinion on the issues) leads to Stalin. Besides, if you look at polls, capitalism isn't polling too well either these days, especially with the younger crowd.

[nadinbrzezinski]

80. The example I gave you was not precisely young

But do not discount it. Here we can bat it...but not everywhere.

[grasswire]

76. nobody is afraid of red scare any more.

60 percent of Americans favor democratic socialism over capitalism.

The tax scare is also a non starter, except among the very ignorant. And they are already voting for Trump.

[livetohike]

12. +1000 n/t

[libdem4life]

28. He can't beat the DNC and the Establishment.

There, fixed it for you.

[Gomez163]

29. He is outraising them outspending them and they still vote for Hillary.

Methinks the doggies dont like the dogfood Bernie is serving.

[libdem4life]

37. He's not a household name, duh. And, yes he has to continue the momentum.

What an stupid response, BTW. Sadly lacking in intelligent discourse.

[Gomez163]

42. Its a shame you have to resort to insults and can't back up your ideas with facts

I won't stoop to the name calling and personal attacks. If insulting an anonymous person on the internet makes you feel big and bad, I feel sorry for you.

[libdem4life]

46. Dogfood in politics? Enough Said. That's just disgusting.

[timmymoff]

39. Keep selling that malarkey

I wish you well in Novemebr, get crackin you have a terrible candidate to sell

[floppyboo]

50. Outraising Yes!!! Lot's of non-reg real dems love him! Outspending? You are kidding right?

There's that super pac/advertising thing
And with those millions, she still hasn't been able to shake off the socialist/independent/fringe Senator from Vermont.
What is she doing wrong, do ya think?

[That Guy 888]

77. Sanders has done suprisingly well considering how undemocratic this primary is.

Clinton has been "winning" since before the primary started.

A majority of the Super Delegates did not just back HRC before the Democratic Convention when they are supposed to cast their votes.

A majority of the Super Delegates did not just back HRC before the Primary was over because all of the votes have been cast.

A majority of the Super Delegates did not just back HRC before a majority of the caucuses and primaries were held.

A majority of the Super Delegates did not just back HRC before Super-Tuesday.

A majority of the Super Delegates did not just back HRC before Iowa and New Hampshire.

A majority of the Super Delegates did not just back HRC before a single vote was cast.

A majority of the Super Delegates DID back HRC before any other candidate announced they were running.

Then there is former HRC 2008 Campaign Manager/2016DNC head DWS who has clearly favored her (former?)political master from scheduling debates to how many seats Sanders delegates get on the DNC convention rules committee(oddly, it's far lower than the percentage of Pledged Delegates he has won)

[GoneFishin]

58. Exactly. Without the cheating and deck-stacking by the entire DNC machine Bernie would have easily

mopped this up by now.

[kaleckim]

51. Which says tons about people like yourself

and what your party has become.

[lancer78]

68. Hillary only won

because of the pragmatic African American vote. I think if Sanders had won Iowa AND New Hampshire, he would be in the lead now.

[kaleckim]

70. What do you mean the "pragmatic African American vote"?

Could you explain?

[lancer78]

73. African American voters

have shown, like referenced in the article below from January, 2008, that they tend to vote for the "sure thing". I really don't know how to explain it right now as it will take time to research what it means.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/18/poll.2008/index.html?iref=nextin

[JaneyVee]

2. Unfortunately for you...

Quinnipiac ranked worst pollster of 2016



65% accuracy may as well be a coin flip.

[basselope]

10. Then why does 538 grade them higher?

[rhett o rick]

18. Congrats on the 2 min post. Do you guys have a special app that allows you to lock in the

first response? Seems weird that it's that important to you.

[hellofromreddit]

32. FWIW, 538 is lousy this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/05/09/our-fictional-pundit-predicted-more-correct-primary-results-than-nate-silver-did/

[NCTraveler]

3. I wasn't aware of the anticipation.

We have work to do. That is well known.

[NurseJackie]

4. If only he was just good enough to defeat Hillary. But he isn't. So he won't be the nominee...

... and he won't have a chance to compete against Trump. What a shame.

Cope.

[timmymoff]

27. Strange way to look at things, considering

Ali couldn't beat Frazier, Frazier couldn't beat Foreman, Ali could beat Foreman, strange how that kind of shit works.

[Barack_America]

45. The shame will be the next 4 years.

With Trump as our President.

[libdem4life]

47. To be fair, it could be HRH with Impeachment papers on Day 2.

That'll show them.

ETA: I think this may be the coup de gras to destroy the Democratic Party...or what is left of it. But a lot of us will stick around and pick up the pieces. No way will they get our Party...no F'ing Way. We're ready to take it back.

[BillZBubb]

65. Yep, that's the end game for the Hillary fanatics.

Of course they'll blame the left which warned them repeatedly of Hillary's poor chances in the GE.

[Station to Station]

5. Crosstabs are bad

QP has a habit of overestimating the white vote, and these suggest that, for the first time in three decades, the whites would increase their share of the vote.

Ideologically, I'd love to see Sanders win. I'm not fond of Clinton, but bad polls and Bernie doing well because he's effectively Generic Democrat to the wider public, the people who for whatever reason cannot muster any interest until November looks, don't serve as a good indicator of how he's going to fare when the Republicans start unleashing their brand of "truth" about him in a general election campaign.

[griffi94]

6. But Bernie isn't running against Trump

He got blown out in the primaries.

[mythology]

8. Which still means nothing

general election polls in the primaries mean squat, particularly when there are two clear front runners and presumptive nominees. Sanders not being one of them, hasn't been subject to the same level of attacks and such.

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. This poll significantly over-sampled white voters and under-sampled Black voters; but, I agree ...

it is everything Team Sanders has been waiting for! ... Well, that and the indictment fairy.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. That explains everything.

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. Ow! Ow! Ow!

That really hurt.

[Proud Public Servant]

15. This would be SUPER important if

1) the election were today, which it isn't; and
2) Bernie could get the nomination, which he can't; and
3) it actually showed Clinton losing the general, which it doesn't (we could lose Ohio and still win the general, even without any pick-ups).

So, slight correction: this single poll, six months out, isn't really anything anyone has been waiting for. And I say that as a Bernie voter.

[litlbilly]

41. proud to put you on ignore.

[dana_b]

16. he keeps winning, he has better poll numbers

and if he wins most of the rest of the primaries AND does VERY well in California, he definitely will have the argument to present to the Supers that he IS the better candidate.

Go Bernie!!!

[Eko]

17. You forgot to put these up.

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 47, Trump 41 Clinton +6
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders PPP (D) Sanders 50, Trump 39 Sanders +11

So cool, no trump either way, that is everything we've been waiting for!

[UMTerp01]

19. LOL...Quinnipiac that oversamples white voters nt

[brooklynite]

20. Nate Silver rips Trump-Clinton polls in 8-part Twitter rant

Politico

Nate Silver thinks it's time to pump the brakes on predicting the results of a Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton matchup in November.
"For f--k's sake, America. You're going to make go on a rant about general election polls -- in May?" the editor in chief of FiveThirtyEight wrote as part of a tweetstorm on Tuesday.

Silver said Clinton has an about 6 percent lead over Trump nationally, but cautioned: "It's early. Trump could win. Also, he could lose in a landslide." He added that Trump's presumptive nomination and Clinton's ongoing battle with Bernie Sanders could be having an effect — "We'll know more in June."

The statistician said he wouldn't have polls of each state for "a few months."

[libdem4life]

30. Ha..already blaming Sanders folk. Nothing about oh, say the FBI,

the Foundation, yada yada..just so much insignificance...hardly warrants (bad pun) a peep.

[floppyboo]

44. ^lol^ I like bad puns!

[Hoyt]

22. In that poll, what do you think Sanders' diehards said when asked Clinton vs. Trump?

I think once Sanders is out, Clinton's percentages will jump big time. If Sanders ran against Trump, by November, we'd be preparing for this generation's version of a George McGovern landslide loss.

[kaleckim]

59. My god

You really don't have any grasp on how radically the country has changed. Really, the impact of the establishment's policies have radicalized people, and the impact has been disastrous. The polls on the issues, the size of the population that no longer affiliates with either party (and how well Sanders does with that group), how well Sanders does relative to Clinton versus Trump, how much more liked and trusted he is. What in the hell does modern America have to do with America 40 years ago?

As it stands now (none of us can predict the future), he is by far the most electable candidate. To think that he would collapse and she wouldn't is to basically argue that there are more scandals or developments that could crash his candidacy than hers. I don't see how any logical person could argue that, given her top donors, the FBI investigation, her foundation, her Wall Street transcripts, etc.

[Hoyt]

71. I do realize how naive many are, and that when Clinton is officially

the nominee, how much she'll jump in the polls vs. Trump. I'm also glad she has a viable education plan, because a lot of folks need to take advantage of it.

[ViseGrip]

24. Feel the Bern!

[ecstatic]

25. Sanders has not been attacked. It's that simple. nt

[pdsimdars]

34. in your dreams.

the people want Bernie. Ignore them at your own peril.

[libdem4life]

35. Yes, he has so many years of scandals. Um, he has decades of

public service...for which he has run against opposition and actually won.

He did not need the help of a spouse, a New York political handyman to pave the way for a carpet bagger, and a President to appoint. She's never won anything on her own, sorry.

And before we get started on Jane...does it measure up to, shall we say the shenanigans of Clinton v. 1? Guessing with all of those elections there was some kind of vetting done, you think?

Pretty sure no one is going to do a video of all of his flip flops and scandals. Be pretty short.

[ecstatic]

49. Yes. We can start with the VA, Lockheed Martin, and gun lobby

pandering votes that have assisted in killing hundreds of thousands of Americans.

[libdem4life]

55. You run with that.

[ecstatic]

63. No need. He'll be a distant memory in a couple weeks. nt

[redstateblues]

61. How about video with Bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class

His numbers would dive bomb. The last Dem, Mondale, to do that won ONE state

[TheCowsCameHome]

38. That's because he's clean.

[kaleckim]

62. ?!

Bernie Sanders has not been attacked?! Did you really type that? Do you live in such a bubble that you really think that, or is it just a talking point you've decided to pass on for our collective benefit?

[beaglelover]

31. Bernie has not been vetted by the general public. These polls mean nothing at this point.

And Bernie won't be the D nominee so these polls are useless anyway.

[apcalc]

33. Quinnipiac has been off

the mark quite a bit this year....oversampling whites.

[Ash_F]

40. The rust belt is going to be a challenge with Clinton

Trump will come out hard against NAFTA and TPP.

[ContinentalOp]

69. That's not really a battle Sanders could win vs. Trump imo

Two white guys fighting to see who can complain the loudest about NAFTA and TPP? No thanks. I think Trump is better positioned to feed into the racism and white male rage underlying that issue.

It's better that we actually run a candidate who provides a contrast to Trump, rather than a kinder gentler version of the same basic idea.

[Ohioblue22]

48. Quinnipiac..lol.

[tabasco]

60. Another polling company under the bus.

There will be many more.

Quinnapiac gets a B+ from 538.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

[redstateblues]

57. If the Rs had 5 months to run the video of bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class

his numbers would dive bomb

[NuclearDem]

64. Or the "breadlines are really a good thing" video.

[ucrdem]

66. Fine, but Bernie lost to both of them on March 16.

And Trump lost to Kasich who's currently out of the race. She'll take Ohio in November fear not.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/ohio

[CobaltBlue]

72. More polls, please! (Context.)

Bellwethers Florida and Ohio—and now Lean Democratic Pennsylvania—make it look terrible for a general-election Hillary Clinton.

However, a previous poll had Georgia a tossup—which should never be in that position for a winning Republican; that makes it look bad for Donald Trump. (Georgia shades, lately, at least +10 points red by comparison to the nation.)


More state—and national—polls are necessary. Not for me with my primary vote having gone to Bernie Sanders; but, for being up-to-date with understanding how the general election may be taking shape. Oh! And I also want U.S. Senate and U.S. House polls.

[AzDar]

74. K & R

[silvershadow]

78. K&R. nt