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Hmmmm, Ms. Inevitable just lost another state. Weird. (Original Post) Logical May 2016 OP
this "drop out so Hillary has no competition" thing Merryland May 2016 #1
The math says blah blah blah blah Joob May 2016 #2
What does she know Mike__M May 2016 #7
But against an unnamed opponent... scscholar May 2016 #41
Exactly my point, thanks Joob May 2016 #43
Yes, she should run against an unnamed opponent lagomorph777 May 2016 #74
But she did come in 3rd in that one county in WV, to someone virtually unkown pdsimdars May 2016 #84
Haven't you heard? Bettie May 2016 #67
These graphics tell the story. Thanks. Keep posting them, maybe they'll seep through. pdsimdars May 2016 #83
And WV was Hillary's biggest win in 2008. What a reversal!! n/t JimDandy May 2016 #3
well since he keeps winning dana_b May 2016 #4
that would be nice, but for the Git R Dun element prior to FBI report. nt grasswire May 2016 #11
He can't win. It's the math. Not that hard of a concept to grasp. But for some I guess it is. beaglelover May 2016 #5
LOL, yet the voters keep voting for him. Weird. nt Logical May 2016 #8
Yep, voters in the whitest state in the nation. beaglelover May 2016 #64
Another racist baiting post from a hill fan. Nice! Logical May 2016 #70
Just the facts 'mam. beaglelover May 2016 #71
Never take facts from a partisan, because they rarely are. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #78
you mean facts like SCantiGOP May 2016 #88
It's not the math. Its the $ signs that were used to BUY her superdelegates. DJ13 May 2016 #55
Bernie has to win by an impossible margin in the remaining primaries to surpass beaglelover May 2016 #65
You don't understand math. He is not mathematically eliminated, morningfog May 2016 #79
This is just the break that the Sanders campaign has been looking for The Second Stone May 2016 #6
Speak for yourself! Trump is far from being my last hope. CaliforniaPeggy May 2016 #9
Pretty silly. Trump will be competitive is all the swing states. BillZBubb May 2016 #10
The fantasy swing states. The important ones where Sanders The Second Stone May 2016 #48
Because we can do *math*...and he can take the rest of the states at 100% LaydeeBug May 2016 #12
Supers dont vote until convention lmbradford May 2016 #80
Supers have already committed...you don't get to have it both ways LaydeeBug May 2016 #81
As WV goes .... JoePhilly May 2016 #13
And we move closer to a gop presidency timmymoff May 2016 #16
Keep your figures crossed!!!! JoePhilly May 2016 #24
No, I'm stating i won't be helping timmymoff May 2016 #25
We ... don't need ... you. k? JoePhilly May 2016 #28
Yea you do timmymoff May 2016 #29
No, we don't need dead weight. JoePhilly May 2016 #32
Well I understand we interrupted the coronation timmymoff May 2016 #34
She's winning the nomination ... no problem. JoePhilly May 2016 #36
Cool, good luck in November you'll need it. timmymoff May 2016 #37
Thanks ... we'll be fine. JoePhilly May 2016 #38
I hope for you guys sake. timmymoff May 2016 #39
Do you live in the US? Renew Deal May 2016 #47
Funny you mentioned Iraq timmymoff May 2016 #49
And you'll be fully deserving for the blame if your gamble doesn't work out Renew Deal May 2016 #50
as stated before but you are obviously to thick to comprehend timmymoff May 2016 #51
Gore didn't lose because of Nader Renew Deal May 2016 #52
you blamed nader timmymoff May 2016 #59
No. I blamed the Naderites Renew Deal May 2016 #60
Oh my bad, timmymoff May 2016 #61
Do you blame Nader or Naderites for anything Renew Deal May 2016 #62
I blame Al Gore for losing timmymoff May 2016 #63
Nice to know you blame the victim for a STOLEN ELECTION LaydeeBug May 2016 #89
again timmymoff May 2016 #91
and *again* LaydeeBug May 2016 #93
If Bill Clinton could've kept his dick on a leash... Jack Bone May 2016 #58
If the GOP would have kept their nose out of his crotch LaydeeBug May 2016 #90
How Embarrassing!!!!....nt global1 May 2016 #14
her voters "don't do rallies or bumperstickers" GreatGazoo May 2016 #15
seeing how WV is a white redneck state MFM008 May 2016 #33
Didn't hillary win west virginia timmymoff May 2016 #35
Thanks for putting this "big win" in perspective, if completely unintentionally. Number23 May 2016 #40
she can't even keep states she once won lol timmymoff May 2016 #42
LOL The issue is that our current, two term, wildly popular current president lost this "mighty" Number23 May 2016 #44
It isn't pretending anything. timmymoff May 2016 #45
Not fair, she did have a rally yesterday in CA pdsimdars May 2016 #85
A 'racism' op has already been posted on this subject by a Hillary supporter AgingAmerican May 2016 #17
Did they? I can only see a fairly small percentage of replies. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #66
operation chaos Demsrule86 May 2016 #18
In an election without crossover voting nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #56
They aren't going to let a little thing like facts get in the way of their rationalization LondonReign2 May 2016 #69
He needed 65% of the vote. He only got 50%. baldguy May 2016 #19
Bernie can win; HRC will not get enough delegates to secure the nomination amborin May 2016 #20
and you think sanders will? onenote May 2016 #21
Sanders is still losing the primary workinclasszero May 2016 #22
As ashamed as courting Jeb Bush mega donors and Ted Cruz's now? timmymoff May 2016 #27
Hillary will never be president of the United States. We are plain fucked as can be. CentralCoaster May 2016 #23
Exactly right; saucy007 May 2016 #31
I think in total delegates griffi94 May 2016 #26
As of now, the WV delegates go 16 to Bernie, 11 to Hillary with 2 still on the table.. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #72
So 7 delegates to Bernie . griffi94 May 2016 #92
She's still inevitable, and Bernie's path got harder. A good night. CrowCityDem May 2016 #30
people are voting for Sanders despite being forbidden to. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #54
Weird and Wonderful!!! Silver_Witch May 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #57
Why do you keep saying she's inevitable? randome May 2016 #68
She assumed it from day one Logical May 2016 #76
Gradually looking more "evitable" with each race. lagomorph777 May 2016 #73
Yet not Logical May 2016 #77
I'm old enough to remember when Blue_Tires May 2016 #75
The coronation postponed, yet again. . . . drat! pdsimdars May 2016 #82
Neener-neeners do not become us. n/t Orsino May 2016 #86
Speak for yourself. pdsimdars May 2016 #87

Joob

(1,065 posts)
2. The math says blah blah blah blah
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:02 PM
May 2016

The math also says




How Hillary going to win without these guys?
Scare us with Trump?

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
41. But against an unnamed opponent...
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

she still wins. It isn't as bad as that graph would indicate.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
67. Haven't you heard?
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

She doesn't need or want independents to vote for her.

She doesn't need or want "lefties" to vote for her.

She doesn't need or want anyone who supported Sanders to vote for her.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
4. well since he keeps winning
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

maybe people should be quiet about Bernie dropping out and just let the primaries play out.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
88. you mean facts like
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

Almost 3 million more people have actually voted for Clinton over Sanders this year?

Or is that fact too partisan for you?

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
55. It's not the math. Its the $ signs that were used to BUY her superdelegates.
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:25 PM
May 2016

Even CNN this evening was talking about Bernie likely finishing the primaries with the most earned delegates, which means Hillary will ONLY WIN because she has bought off most of the super delegates.

Thats not the democratic way to win.

beaglelover

(3,468 posts)
65. Bernie has to win by an impossible margin in the remaining primaries to surpass
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:50 AM
May 2016

Hillary's pledged delegate lead. Ain't gonna happen! Hello! New Jersey???? Yeah, right.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
79. You don't understand math. He is not mathematically eliminated,
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

the math says he could still win. You seem to be the challenged one.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
6. This is just the break that the Sanders campaign has been looking for
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:09 PM
May 2016

too push them over the top in popular vote count, pledged delegate vote count and superdelegate vote count. All that needs to be done now is to emphasize victories like this one in in West Virginia and hope the MSM downplays the others and we can continue being in complete freaking denial of establishment reality.

Here's the electoral map.

http://www.270towin.com/maps/bMcf

unfortunately for Donald Trump, he does not come even close to putting together a victory against Hillary Clinton. Much to the disappointment of a few Bernie Sanders supporters who had hoped that Donald Trump would be their last hope.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,599 posts)
9. Speak for yourself! Trump is far from being my last hope.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

He is a walking talking disaster area and there's no way in hell I want him as President.

I do not like Hillary at all, but she's head and shoulders above Trump.

And Bernie outshines both of them.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
12. Because we can do *math*...and he can take the rest of the states at 100%
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

and *still* not be able to get the nomination.

Congratulations at your win tonight. It cannot and will not stop Hillary's VICTORY though, because she already hit her target for WV....17%.

Yep. Her lead is so far above the competition that she only needs 17% of the remaining delegates to secure the nomination. But keep telling yourself other stuff.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
80. Supers dont vote until convention
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

She needs somethin like 2024 to clinch the pledged delegates. Better redo your math. If he gets 66% of remaining pledged delegates he will have majority. Yes, she has a lot of Super support but they dont get to vote until convention. They arent going to overturn the leader in pledged delegates.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
16. And we move closer to a gop presidency
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

and very little gains in house and senate. Good luck with that, you'll need it.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
24. Keep your figures crossed!!!!
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:09 PM
May 2016

Perhaps you give yourself away by saying "Good luck with that, you'll need it" ... and not "Good luck with that, we'll need it."

Apparently you will not be impacted as negatively by a Trump Presidency as we would be.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
25. No, I'm stating i won't be helping
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

so you Hillary supporters better pick up the slack if you don't want a Trump presidency.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
32. No, we don't need dead weight.
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

Vote, or don't vote at all ... vote green ... stay home ... whatever .... no one should spend more than 10 seconds trying to get you to do anything.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
34. Well I understand we interrupted the coronation
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:22 PM
May 2016

and the grapes are sour, but hey, she's been vetted. Maybe that's the problem?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
36. She's winning the nomination ... no problem.
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

And as for "interrupting things" ... please ... the date of the convention has not changed or been interrupted in the least.

And the only grapes to be consumed by Hillary supporters, will be in the form of wine.

The sour grapes, the bitter herbs, the rotten apples ... are all for you.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
47. Do you live in the US?
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

I don't know why you say "you guys." You'll face the consequences too just like you did with 9/11, Iraq, Katrina, Recession, Alito, etc.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
49. Funny you mentioned Iraq
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:05 PM
May 2016

considering what excellent results we got from one of our candidate's votes. I only mentioned You'll because you and her supporters need to get her elected. I won't be a part of helping I've done enough holding my nose voting for conservadems.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
51. as stated before but you are obviously to thick to comprehend
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:16 PM
May 2016

Gore lost his home state. Gore lost the home state of president Bill Clinton. Gore lost 250,000 democratic votes that switched to Bush in Florida. I'd say Gore lost due to bad campaigning more than Nader, but then I live in reality, not a bubble I choose to stay in which doesn't allow anyone to question anything about Hillary.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
52. Gore didn't lose because of Nader
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:18 PM
May 2016

Gore lost because a bunch of selfish buffoons got suckered into believing that there is no difference between the parties. The last 15 years have proven just how idiotic those people were.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
60. No. I blamed the Naderites
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

"Just like the Naderites", though Nader deserves blame too. His choice worked against his stated goals.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
61. Oh my bad,
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:41 PM
May 2016

so no blame for Gore, just like no issue Hillary can adopt makes you question her, she is without blame as well. I'd say I am recognizing a problem, I'd say you are overlooking one and seeking to make excuses for results you already see.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
63. I blame Al Gore for losing
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

Ran the crappiest campaign known to man. Let Bush define him, then proceeded to live by that definition. Was always shouting "me too" after Bush announced a policy.

"I am for the death penalty " Al Gore would say " me too" etc. So no I do not blame them. I blame Gore and Donna Brazile . I guess you could call it accountability, you should try some instead of trying to blame others for warning you about the writing on the wall.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
89. Nice to know you blame the victim for a STOLEN ELECTION
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

and while Nader didn't do the *actual* stealing, he certainly handed them the keys to the getaway car.

But pretend...

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
91. again
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016

lost his home state, lost the home state of the president ( bill Clinton) , lost 250,000 votes that left Gore to vote bush in Florida alone. I know facts are bothersome, but again considering he ran the "me too" candidacy he did lose it, not election theft. You need to stop making excuses and actually join in reality.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
93. and *again*
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:17 AM
May 2016

blame the victim. The droves of people in Tennessee sent away from the polls, etc. I know what the facts are regarding 2000. It appears, on the other hand that....

Jack Bone

(2,023 posts)
58. If Bill Clinton could've kept his dick on a leash...
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:33 PM
May 2016


Al Gore would've won 2000 in a landslide...instead...well, you know

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
90. If the GOP would have kept their nose out of his crotch
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:23 PM
May 2016

since we now know they were up to much MUCH worse. But, *I* know.... *pretend*

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
33. seeing how WV is a white redneck state
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

who cares.

30 % will vote for Trump.
Last time they voted overwhelmingly against the BLACK guy.
This time against the woman.
white, racist rednecks just short of a takeover of a bird sanctuary.
screw them and their 6th grade educations.


(The 30 % voting for Trump. Just CLAIFYING for those of a sensitive nature............)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
44. LOL The issue is that our current, two term, wildly popular current president lost this "mighty"
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:39 PM
May 2016

state in the last primary.

Trying to pretend that's not the point is both precious and adorable.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
17. A 'racism' op has already been posted on this subject by a Hillary supporter
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

Sooo predictable. Cognitive dissonance on steroids.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
66. Did they? I can only see a fairly small percentage of replies.
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

I suspected Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army was out in force on this one.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
18. operation chaos
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

We knew the GOP would engage in ratfuckery and they did...this make this win even less meaningful than it would have been

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
69. They aren't going to let a little thing like facts get in the way of their rationalization
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

They don't like facts, at all, really. Reminds me of Republicans, wonder why that is?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
22. Sanders is still losing the primary
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

So he got lots of Trump voters in the fall trying to stop Hillary today.

I would be ashamed of their "help".

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
27. As ashamed as courting Jeb Bush mega donors and Ted Cruz's now?
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

That is what I would be ashamed of. But deep down, you know she is still our little Goldwater Girl.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
23. Hillary will never be president of the United States. We are plain fucked as can be.
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

Stupid ass DNC gutless sycophants convinced that it's her turn put the whole party and nation at risk.

Now we have a real candidate but they rigged the game.

If she becomes the candidate she'll lose the general. Either way she's damaged goods.

Bad shit, she needs to drop out.

saucy007

(7 posts)
31. Exactly right;
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

The DNC rigged this primary from the beginning and the are going to hand this election to Trump because HRC is a weaker candidate with too much baggage.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
26. I think in total delegates
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

she gained tho.

She had 6 of the seven SDs
and wasn't the pledged delegate count Bernie +3

Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #46)

Response to Logical (Original post)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
68. Why do you keep saying she's inevitable?
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"Everybody is just on their feet screaming 'Kill Kill Kill'! This is -hockey- Conservative values!"[/center][/font][hr]

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
75. I'm old enough to remember when
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:09 AM
May 2016

Hillary winning VA was universally dismissed by the Bernistans because we're conservative/southern/Establishment/whatever and because Hillary has zero chance of winning VA in the general....

But now I'm supposed to believe WV means something?

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