2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHmmmm, Ms. Inevitable just lost another state. Weird.
And Hill fans still think Bernie should drop out.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)is totally stupid.
Joob
(1,065 posts)The math also says
How Hillary going to win without these guys?
Scare us with Trump?
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)that the future is no concern?
scscholar
(2,902 posts)she still wins. It isn't as bad as that graph would indicate.
Joob
(1,065 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)'cause that makes sense?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Bettie
(16,095 posts)She doesn't need or want independents to vote for her.
She doesn't need or want "lefties" to vote for her.
She doesn't need or want anyone who supported Sanders to vote for her.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)maybe people should be quiet about Bernie dropping out and just let the primaries play out.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)beaglelover
(3,468 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)beaglelover
(3,468 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)beaglelover
(3,468 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)Almost 3 million more people have actually voted for Clinton over Sanders this year?
Or is that fact too partisan for you?
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Even CNN this evening was talking about Bernie likely finishing the primaries with the most earned delegates, which means Hillary will ONLY WIN because she has bought off most of the super delegates.
Thats not the democratic way to win.
beaglelover
(3,468 posts)Hillary's pledged delegate lead. Ain't gonna happen! Hello! New Jersey???? Yeah, right.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)the math says he could still win. You seem to be the challenged one.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)too push them over the top in popular vote count, pledged delegate vote count and superdelegate vote count. All that needs to be done now is to emphasize victories like this one in in West Virginia and hope the MSM downplays the others and we can continue being in complete freaking denial of establishment reality.
Here's the electoral map.
http://www.270towin.com/maps/bMcf
unfortunately for Donald Trump, he does not come even close to putting together a victory against Hillary Clinton. Much to the disappointment of a few Bernie Sanders supporters who had hoped that Donald Trump would be their last hope.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,599 posts)He is a walking talking disaster area and there's no way in hell I want him as President.
I do not like Hillary at all, but she's head and shoulders above Trump.
And Bernie outshines both of them.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Especially against Hillary.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)picked up his majority of delegates.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and *still* not be able to get the nomination.
Congratulations at your win tonight. It cannot and will not stop Hillary's VICTORY though, because she already hit her target for WV....17%.
Yep. Her lead is so far above the competition that she only needs 17% of the remaining delegates to secure the nomination. But keep telling yourself other stuff.
lmbradford
(517 posts)She needs somethin like 2024 to clinch the pledged delegates. Better redo your math. If he gets 66% of remaining pledged delegates he will have majority. Yes, she has a lot of Super support but they dont get to vote until convention. They arent going to overturn the leader in pledged delegates.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)math is math.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... Clinton moves closer to the nomination.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)and very little gains in house and senate. Good luck with that, you'll need it.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Perhaps you give yourself away by saying "Good luck with that, you'll need it" ... and not "Good luck with that, we'll need it."
Apparently you will not be impacted as negatively by a Trump Presidency as we would be.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)so you Hillary supporters better pick up the slack if you don't want a Trump presidency.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)and every other vote you can muster.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Vote, or don't vote at all ... vote green ... stay home ... whatever .... no one should spend more than 10 seconds trying to get you to do anything.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)and the grapes are sour, but hey, she's been vetted. Maybe that's the problem?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And as for "interrupting things" ... please ... the date of the convention has not changed or been interrupted in the least.
And the only grapes to be consumed by Hillary supporters, will be in the form of wine.
The sour grapes, the bitter herbs, the rotten apples ... are all for you.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)I'm sure they will set up hot lines.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)I don't know why you say "you guys." You'll face the consequences too just like you did with 9/11, Iraq, Katrina, Recession, Alito, etc.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)considering what excellent results we got from one of our candidate's votes. I only mentioned You'll because you and her supporters need to get her elected. I won't be a part of helping I've done enough holding my nose voting for conservadems.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Just like the Naderites
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Gore lost his home state. Gore lost the home state of president Bill Clinton. Gore lost 250,000 democratic votes that switched to Bush in Florida. I'd say Gore lost due to bad campaigning more than Nader, but then I live in reality, not a bubble I choose to stay in which doesn't allow anyone to question anything about Hillary.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Gore lost because a bunch of selfish buffoons got suckered into believing that there is no difference between the parties. The last 15 years have proven just how idiotic those people were.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)now backtrack.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)"Just like the Naderites", though Nader deserves blame too. His choice worked against his stated goals.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)so no blame for Gore, just like no issue Hillary can adopt makes you question her, she is without blame as well. I'd say I am recognizing a problem, I'd say you are overlooking one and seeking to make excuses for results you already see.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Or are we only blaming Democrats?
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Ran the crappiest campaign known to man. Let Bush define him, then proceeded to live by that definition. Was always shouting "me too" after Bush announced a policy.
"I am for the death penalty " Al Gore would say " me too" etc. So no I do not blame them. I blame Gore and Donna Brazile . I guess you could call it accountability, you should try some instead of trying to blame others for warning you about the writing on the wall.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and while Nader didn't do the *actual* stealing, he certainly handed them the keys to the getaway car.
But pretend...
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)lost his home state, lost the home state of the president ( bill Clinton) , lost 250,000 votes that left Gore to vote bush in Florida alone. I know facts are bothersome, but again considering he ran the "me too" candidacy he did lose it, not election theft. You need to stop making excuses and actually join in reality.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)blame the victim. The droves of people in Tennessee sent away from the polls, etc. I know what the facts are regarding 2000. It appears, on the other hand that....
Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)Al Gore would've won 2000 in a landslide...instead...well, you know
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)since we now know they were up to much MUCH worse. But, *I* know.... *pretend*
global1
(25,242 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)or voting now, apparently
MFM008
(19,806 posts)who cares.
30 % will vote for Trump.
Last time they voted overwhelmingly against the BLACK guy.
This time against the woman.
white, racist rednecks just short of a takeover of a bird sanctuary.
screw them and their 6th grade educations.
(The 30 % voting for Trump. Just CLAIFYING for those of a sensitive nature............)
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)against Obama in 08 now she loses hmmmmmmmm
Number23
(24,544 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)state in the last primary.
Trying to pretend that's not the point is both precious and adorable.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)She may very well be the nominee, I say good luck with that.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Sooo predictable. Cognitive dissonance on steroids.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I suspected Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army was out in force on this one.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)We knew the GOP would engage in ratfuckery and they did...this make this win even less meaningful than it would have been
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)hmmm. that operation chaos is really crafty I tell ya
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)They don't like facts, at all, really. Reminds me of Republicans, wonder why that is?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Every time he "wins" he falls further behind.
amborin
(16,631 posts)onenote
(42,700 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)So he got lots of Trump voters in the fall trying to stop Hillary today.
I would be ashamed of their "help".
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)That is what I would be ashamed of. But deep down, you know she is still our little Goldwater Girl.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Stupid ass DNC gutless sycophants convinced that it's her turn put the whole party and nation at risk.
Now we have a real candidate but they rigged the game.
If she becomes the candidate she'll lose the general. Either way she's damaged goods.
Bad shit, she needs to drop out.
saucy007
(7 posts)The DNC rigged this primary from the beginning and the are going to hand this election to Trump because HRC is a weaker candidate with too much baggage.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)she gained tho.
She had 6 of the seven SDs
and wasn't the pledged delegate count Bernie +3
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
griffi94
(3,733 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It's an OUTRAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Truly truly wonderful.
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randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"Everybody is just on their feet screaming 'Kill Kill Kill'! This is -hockey- Conservative values!"[/center][/font][hr]
Logical
(22,457 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Hmmmm...
Logical
(22,457 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Hillary winning VA was universally dismissed by the Bernistans because we're conservative/southern/Establishment/whatever and because Hillary has zero chance of winning VA in the general....
But now I'm supposed to believe WV means something?