2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it possible that HRC won't release the transcripts
because there are no transcripts--because she never gave a large cache of Wall Street speeches?
Is it possible that many Wall Street firms wanted to give Clinton a nice chunk of change--and calling these payments "speaking fees" was a way to legitimize these large payments?
Maybe there really weren't any speeches, after all.
Whether there were speeches or not--everyone with a functioning cerebellum understands that Wall Street was purchasing access and influence. Maybe the ledgers says "speaking fees" to make these payments acceptable, but these dozens and dozens of speeches never really happened.
I'm thinking that this may be a possibility.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)the transcripts.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)winning the GE with a real progressive is the only thing that matters, right?
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)Thanks for your concern.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)kiddo.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Only the naive would honestly believe that.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)count on it.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)beaglelover
(3,460 posts)Hillary will be the D nominee. I'll still vote when the CA primary comes around though since there will be other stuff on the ballot.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Except the primaries aren't over, and I don't care whether Trump's asking or not: I'm not voting for a dishonest corporatist and warmonger.
Sorry to rain on your parade.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)the democrats will move left or lose, up to them.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)What was that on CNN tonight? A re-run?
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Do you think that we deserve to see them if we are asking to see them?
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)There's a spooky kind of logic to that scenario.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Tarc
(10,472 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Nothing matters for Hillary. Ever. Except Hillary.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)to powerful Wall Street interests will always be an issue. The exhorbitant amount of money that she has taken from Wall Street will always be a part of who she is.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)by the twisted perversion of our democracy--by powerful Wall Street interests that have stolen our democracy.
You find our broken system hilarious and your candidate is more than happy to continue this corruption. A total match made in heaven.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)so to speak.
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)Hillary should deal with the issue (even if it is bullshit) instead of passively waiting for it to die away.
Tarc
(10,472 posts)Trump will get no mileage form "big bannks are yuuuuge!" arguments.
This is a niche issue, and it ceased being relevant once Sanders slipped behind permanently in the delegate count.
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Believe it. It's true.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Did you by any chance record the speech?
At any time, did any Wall Street executive refer to Clinton as, "A little piece of democracy that we just had to purchase."
Did you, at any time see her pull a bottle of hot sauce out of her Birkin and slather it on the light hors d'oeuvres that were served?
Thank you for any insight.
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CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)But I think that she also was careful to make some statements so to maintain an air of credibility.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)and got paid $250k each time for it
maybe that's what she's hiding - that if the transaction is something other than bribery, she ripped off her customers?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)"I want to thank the (insert group name here) for the opportunity to speak, and the warm and gracious welcome you've given me.
First let me say that no matter what you may have heard or read, I will do everything in my power to guarantee the (insert group name here) thrives and succeeds."
Golf clap
"I'll continue by assuring you that the (insert group name here) will be focused on limiting the success of (insert group name here) and that I intend to veto any bill that comes across my desk if it attempts to do that by virtue of over-regulation. The United States Government has ALWAYS stood behind the (insert group name here) and I assure you that you have our undying support."
Golf clap.
"I'll have the foie gras today please."
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Maybe her speech was like her Wall Street stump speech?
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)It would explain a whole, whole lot of this issue. "speeches" as a cover story for - what's an acceptable DU synonym for bribe?
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)like Alex Jones every day. "IT'S A FALSE FLAG!!!!!"
saucy007
(7 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)What were they being "bribed" about?
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I said guide. I know the President doesn't hold the purse strings, but sure has a big bully pulpit.
So I'd say your question was apropos of nothing.
polly7
(20,582 posts)who paid her so much up here.
The public speeches she gave in various cities consisted of 'terror, terror!, and how we MUST be aware and ready. (I guess she forgot Canadian forces were in the most dangerous areas in Afghanistan right from the beginning, all those who were lost and all those who've taken their lives since coming back.)
She was asked in these speeches about the Keystone XL but had 'no comment'.
Protalker
(418 posts)Trump is getting a war chest of 1.5 Billion. Half of Bernie Bros support him in WV. I sent Hillary two small donations but it going to take more than speaking fees. Enjoy Trump if your man loses. If Bernie wins I will support our nominee.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Did you say "Make America White Again" back then?
Protalker
(418 posts)The difference being she lost and her supporters followed her endorsement of Obama. These voters today want anyone but an insider. To vote for an out and out bigot supported by the KKK? A man who thinks nukes are a negotiating chip?
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)...very possible. We won't see them and don't need them. Everyone knows enough about Hillary Clinton to form an opinion.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)and eventually she'll be forced to release the transcripts just to prove that there actually were speeches.
Then...she's busted!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)However, the companies that she was supposed to talk to knew she was going to run for President - was this just one more way for them to give her money?
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Very interesting thesis !
Needs to be explored
haikugal
(6,476 posts)I wouldn't put it past her.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)money from their duped watchers, when they sell merchandise, donations. If they called it "purchased price" they would have to pay sales tax. That way they get their religious IRS exemption and pay no sales tax.