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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:08 PM May 2016

Is it possible that HRC won't release the transcripts

because there are no transcripts--because she never gave a large cache of Wall Street speeches?

Is it possible that many Wall Street firms wanted to give Clinton a nice chunk of change--and calling these payments "speaking fees" was a way to legitimize these large payments?

Maybe there really weren't any speeches, after all.

Whether there were speeches or not--everyone with a functioning cerebellum understands that Wall Street was purchasing access and influence. Maybe the ledgers says "speaking fees" to make these payments acceptable, but these dozens and dozens of speeches never really happened.

I'm thinking that this may be a possibility.

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Is it possible that HRC won't release the transcripts (Original Post) CoffeeCat May 2016 OP
It doesn't matter. The primary is over. I don't believe Trump is asking for her to release beaglelover May 2016 #1
You do understand that we until July to make sure we win the GE, right? And... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #5
We will win the GE with the current D POTUS nominee who is Hillary Clinton. beaglelover May 2016 #8
Enjoy your first Presidential campaign Joe the Revelator May 2016 #12
No kiddo here. Just a realist. beaglelover May 2016 #17
A realist wouldn't think that Hillary was anywhere near having the GE in the bag Joe the Revelator May 2016 #19
We'll see in November. I'm optomistic. beaglelover May 2016 #20
You'll see without many long time democrats help timmymoff May 2016 #28
Bernie Sanders will be the next POTUS madokie May 2016 #39
OK, whatever you say. beaglelover May 2016 #46
I guess the people in WV didn't know the primary was over. panader0 May 2016 #9
Those of us in the remaining primary states know our votes won't change the outcome. beaglelover May 2016 #15
Great news. Once the primaries are over, ethics are no longer relevant RufusTFirefly May 2016 #11
Then don't vote for her. No skin off my back. beaglelover May 2016 #13
I won't either timmymoff May 2016 #29
Remember to say that after se loses the GE. Vincardog May 2016 #33
The primary is over? CoffeeCat May 2016 #45
Democrats are asking for them. Silver_Witch May 2016 #52
Whoa! RufusTFirefly May 2016 #2
I doubt she's of a mind to commit political suicide. -nt- NorthCarolina May 2016 #3
Is it possible that people still think this issue matters? Tarc May 2016 #4
Yep, she doesn't definitely still have a primary to close out AND a GE not to fuck up. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #7
I know, can you believe some people still think this is an issue? Laughable. beaglelover May 2016 #10
Clinton's questionable ties CoffeeCat May 2016 #47
Yawn. Those damn banksters!!!! beaglelover May 2016 #48
It makes sense that you seem so amused CoffeeCat May 2016 #51
A pile never strays too far from the back door... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #57
Those people are voters. Election's coming up. hellofromreddit May 2016 #18
I'm all for the "go pound sand" option, as it is only a primary issue, not a g.e. one Tarc May 2016 #21
Good luck with that. I'm sure people will totally ignore it like you say. hellofromreddit May 2016 #22
There were speeches Depaysement May 2016 #6
You are so certain. You must have been there. CoffeeCat May 2016 #49
I think you're right that they were payments for services. CentralCoaster May 2016 #14
Maybe she gave the same exact speech every time AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #16
You're probably not too far off... cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #40
That's a possibility too CoffeeCat May 2016 #50
Perhaps. Trump might, though. nt silvershadow May 2016 #23
Trump has them and will have great fun skewering Hill... once again yourpaljoey May 2016 #24
That is a damned brilliant deduction Merryland May 2016 #25
You folks are now getting close to delusional. Sounding more COLGATE4 May 2016 #26
Speech or no speech they were bribes! saucy007 May 2016 #31
Delusional. Steve Jobs and Bono got higher speaking fees than Clinton Recursion May 2016 #34
79 cents on the dollar for a woman! oldandhappy May 2016 #37
Probably nothing. They aren't politicians nor are they in a place to guide the spending of billions. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #38
I'd still really like to know what she said for the two big banks pushing the Keystone XL polly7 May 2016 #27
Make America White Again! Protalker May 2016 #30
Hillary won WV by 40 in '08 DefenseLawyer May 2016 #35
yes Protalker May 2016 #42
Yes... Mike Nelson May 2016 #32
She will not release anything because she is a control freak. oldandhappy May 2016 #36
keep pushing that meme tularetom May 2016 #41
I actually was going to ask a similar question but did not. jwirr May 2016 #43
Wow, I never figured on that Ferd Berfel May 2016 #44
Very interesting question haikugal May 2016 #53
The same way television evangelicals call incoming Lint Head May 2016 #54
Someone lost their aluminum foil hat Ohioblue22 May 2016 #55
If she came out and admitted that, it would be even worse than realeasing any actual speaches IMO litlbilly May 2016 #56

beaglelover

(3,460 posts)
1. It doesn't matter. The primary is over. I don't believe Trump is asking for her to release
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:09 PM
May 2016

the transcripts.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
5. You do understand that we until July to make sure we win the GE, right? And...
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

winning the GE with a real progressive is the only thing that matters, right?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
19. A realist wouldn't think that Hillary was anywhere near having the GE in the bag
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

Only the naive would honestly believe that.

beaglelover

(3,460 posts)
15. Those of us in the remaining primary states know our votes won't change the outcome.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

Hillary will be the D nominee. I'll still vote when the CA primary comes around though since there will be other stuff on the ballot.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
11. Great news. Once the primaries are over, ethics are no longer relevant
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

Except the primaries aren't over, and I don't care whether Trump's asking or not: I'm not voting for a dishonest corporatist and warmonger.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
52. Democrats are asking for them.
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

Do you think that we deserve to see them if we are asking to see them?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
7. Yep, she doesn't definitely still have a primary to close out AND a GE not to fuck up.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:12 PM
May 2016

Nothing matters for Hillary. Ever. Except Hillary.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
47. Clinton's questionable ties
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

to powerful Wall Street interests will always be an issue. The exhorbitant amount of money that she has taken from Wall Street will always be a part of who she is.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
51. It makes sense that you seem so amused
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

by the twisted perversion of our democracy--by powerful Wall Street interests that have stolen our democracy.

You find our broken system hilarious and your candidate is more than happy to continue this corruption. A total match made in heaven.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
18. Those people are voters. Election's coming up.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

Hillary should deal with the issue (even if it is bullshit) instead of passively waiting for it to die away.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
21. I'm all for the "go pound sand" option, as it is only a primary issue, not a g.e. one
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

Trump will get no mileage form "big bannks are yuuuuge!" arguments.

This is a niche issue, and it ceased being relevant once Sanders slipped behind permanently in the delegate count.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
49. You are so certain. You must have been there.
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

Did you by any chance record the speech?

At any time, did any Wall Street executive refer to Clinton as, "A little piece of democracy that we just had to purchase."

Did you, at any time see her pull a bottle of hot sauce out of her Birkin and slather it on the light hors d'oeuvres that were served?

Thank you for any insight.

😳

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
14. I think you're right that they were payments for services.
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

But I think that she also was careful to make some statements so to maintain an air of credibility.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
16. Maybe she gave the same exact speech every time
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

and got paid $250k each time for it

maybe that's what she's hiding - that if the transaction is something other than bribery, she ripped off her customers?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
40. You're probably not too far off...
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

"I want to thank the (insert group name here) for the opportunity to speak, and the warm and gracious welcome you've given me.

First let me say that no matter what you may have heard or read, I will do everything in my power to guarantee the (insert group name here) thrives and succeeds."

Golf clap

"I'll continue by assuring you that the (insert group name here) will be focused on limiting the success of (insert group name here) and that I intend to veto any bill that comes across my desk if it attempts to do that by virtue of over-regulation. The United States Government has ALWAYS stood behind the (insert group name here) and I assure you that you have our undying support."

Golf clap.

"I'll have the foie gras today please."

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
25. That is a damned brilliant deduction
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:58 PM
May 2016

It would explain a whole, whole lot of this issue. "speeches" as a cover story for - what's an acceptable DU synonym for bribe?

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
26. You folks are now getting close to delusional. Sounding more
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

like Alex Jones every day. "IT'S A FALSE FLAG!!!!!"

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. Delusional. Steve Jobs and Bono got higher speaking fees than Clinton
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

What were they being "bribed" about?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
38. Probably nothing. They aren't politicians nor are they in a place to guide the spending of billions.
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:20 PM
May 2016

I said guide. I know the President doesn't hold the purse strings, but sure has a big bully pulpit.

So I'd say your question was apropos of nothing.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
27. I'd still really like to know what she said for the two big banks pushing the Keystone XL
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

who paid her so much up here.

The public speeches she gave in various cities consisted of 'terror, terror!, and how we MUST be aware and ready. (I guess she forgot Canadian forces were in the most dangerous areas in Afghanistan right from the beginning, all those who were lost and all those who've taken their lives since coming back.)

She was asked in these speeches about the Keystone XL but had 'no comment'.

Protalker

(418 posts)
30. Make America White Again!
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

Trump is getting a war chest of 1.5 Billion. Half of Bernie Bros support him in WV. I sent Hillary two small donations but it going to take more than speaking fees. Enjoy Trump if your man loses. If Bernie wins I will support our nominee.

Protalker

(418 posts)
42. yes
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

The difference being she lost and her supporters followed her endorsement of Obama. These voters today want anyone but an insider. To vote for an out and out bigot supported by the KKK? A man who thinks nukes are a negotiating chip?





Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
32. Yes...
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

...very possible. We won't see them and don't need them. Everyone knows enough about Hillary Clinton to form an opinion.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
41. keep pushing that meme
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

and eventually she'll be forced to release the transcripts just to prove that there actually were speeches.

Then...she's busted!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
43. I actually was going to ask a similar question but did not.
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

However, the companies that she was supposed to talk to knew she was going to run for President - was this just one more way for them to give her money?

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
54. The same way television evangelicals call incoming
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:30 AM
May 2016

money from their duped watchers, when they sell merchandise, donations. If they called it "purchased price" they would have to pay sales tax. That way they get their religious IRS exemption and pay no sales tax.

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