2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow far the once mighty bernie oaks have fallen . . .
. . . having to cite WV as proof of the viability of ther revolution. Beyond sad. Somewhat quixotic.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Response to Logical (Reply #1)
artislife This message was self-deleted by its author.
synergie
(1,901 posts)and people who know him and have worked with him refuse to endorse him. He's kind of even worse at closing the deal, no matter how many false promises he makes that if only those "low info" people would hear his preaching, they'd vote for him. The more people know about him the less likely they are to ensure that he closes any deal that doesn't send him back to his NRA friends in Burlington.
It's cute that you attack her , when he's such a worse FAIL, that's propped up by Ratfuckers* for Trump. Even with all the dirty tricks, he can't seem to ever win, why is that?
*note that ratfucking is an actual term used in politics for what Bernie's Trump supporter votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratfucking
Redwoods Red
(137 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)lucky to have him.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Addressing the little people... the ones Trump and Hillary don't have time for. I am proud he's keeping his promise to us.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)They have given their best to make the United States great. They deserve the best the nation has to offer.
Unlike most politicians who only pay attention to the wealthy, Bernie Sanders treats them with the respect they deserve.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)to revitalize coal communities and gave her impassioned speech about not forgetting the people who kept our lights on. The record is clear. She made a bad mistake in explaining her plan and paid a price, although the voters would not have changed that much but she at least would not have left a bitter taste in their mouths. Minchin was supporting her because of her early attention to Appalachia.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)didn't proclaim they were out of a job. He laid out how they would have a job.
Bonus video to my response
http://digg.com/video/prince-creep-cover-coachella-2008
Armstead
(47,803 posts)2013
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/life-in-mcdowell-county
At the county level, Fairfax County, Virginia, which sits just outside of Washington, D.C., has the highest average life expectancy in the nation with an average of 82 years. Just 350 miles away in McDowell County, West Virginia, the life expectancy for men is just 64 years an 18 year difference. Men in McDowell County have the same life expectancy as men in Namibia. For women, the county in the U.S. with the highest life expectancy is sunny and wealthy Marin County, California, where the average is 85 years. The lowest in the nation is Perry County, Kentucky, with an average life expectancy of 73 years a 12 year gap. The life expectancy for women in McDowell County, West Virginia, where life expectancy is second lowest in the country following closely behind Perry County, is equivalent to that of Mongolia (Wang et al., 2013; World Health Organization).
Sen. Bernie Sanders, who chairs the Senate Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging, held a congressional hearing in 2013 on Dying Young: Why Your Social and Economic Status May Be a Death Sentence in America. In addition to receiving testimony from physician and research experts on health, economic, and educational factors that contribute to disparities in life expectancy, Sanders also invited Sabrina Shrader, a 30-year-old social worker born and raised in McDowell County to participate in the hearing and share her personal story.
To follow up on the hearing, two members of Sanders subcommittee staff recently made the six-hour drive from Washington to meet with Sabrina and see McDowell County and her hometown of Twin Branch firsthand. Sabrina currently lives with her husband in Athens, West Virginia, which is located in Mercer County, about an hour-and-a-half drive from Twin Branch. She works full time for a nonprofit civic engagement organization and is pursuing a Master of Social Work degree.
When Sabrina finishes school and returns to McDowell, as is her hope, she will be among the 5 percent of McDowell County residents with a graduate degree. Only 64 percent of adults in McDowell County have a high school degree or higher, compared to more than 85 percent nationally. Fewer than 6 percent of McDowell County residents have a bachelors degree or higher, compared to the national average of nearly 29 percent (U.S. Census American Community Survey).
Dec. 1915
http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/648898/Displaced-Coal-Miners-May-Get-Re---.html
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who is also a 2016 Democratic candidate for president, joined Sens. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., and Ed Markey, D-Mass., this week in sponsoring both the American Clean Energy Investment Act of 2015 and The Clean Energy Worker Just Transition Act. Proponents of the legislation believe these measures would drive over $500 billion worth of clean energy investments over the next 15 years.
According to Sanders, Merkley and Markey, coal communities have been under pressure for decades as coal-mining jobs have been lost due to more efficient mining practices, competition from cheaper natural gas and the public's desire to move to cleaner sources of energy. They said their legislation would provide unemployment insurance, health care and a pension for up to three years for displaced coal miners, as well as up to four years of new job training at a college or vocational school.....
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k8conant
(3,030 posts)and Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) is even worse.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)into compaign ads for TV and cut out her plan for creating clean jobs for coal miners. Also, the jobs lost would have been lost anyway because the mining companies have moved away from underground mines to removing coal from above ground which doesn't require as many workers as those jobs which were below the ground. So in the end, she didn't do anything to hurt them at all actually. I learned this from watching CNBC and someone was on the show yesterday discussing the plight of WV coalminers. He said it was the companies' that no longer need the services of the miners because they have moved on to extracting that coal which is above ground.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Please, proceed.
enid602
(8,616 posts)By no means lesser, but I would imagine bern wouldn't mind trading WV for NY, CT, PA or MD. THAT was breathtaking, AND a game cjsnger.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Yes, this was posted by a Trump fan, but this is Connecticut, not Texas. These kids won't be voting Trump.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Response to Fawke Em (Reply #17)
artislife This message was self-deleted by its author.
kiva
(4,373 posts)Because on a day that a state holds a primary we tend to, you know, talk about that primary. Of course we understand why you would prefer to change the topic.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)MuseRider
(34,108 posts)I mean really. You have to stoop to this kind of post? Musta hurt a lot tonight.
Snotty.
Bye.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)You may want to work on your delivery.
enid602
(8,616 posts)I think bern and his supporters have already done more than enough in that department.
PufPuf23
(8,774 posts)Sanders easily won the primary election in West Virginia.
Hillary Clinton finished a distant third to Sanders and Trump in absolute number of votes.
Sanders is a better candidate in the general election than Hillary Clinton against Trump specifically and GOP in general.
Sanders promotes policies that liberal and progressive and the party of FDR and JFK.
Hillary Clinton promotes the neo-liberal economic and foreign policies that have harmed most Americans and are GOP in nature.
I am proud for the Democrats and independent liberals in West Virginia.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the fact that a state she won in 2008 with some decision, she lost tonight and in every county?
by the way. this unity tour is really not going to work with this tone. That is a pro tip. not that I suspect you care. For all I know you would prefer that Sanders supporters stay home in November.
enid602
(8,616 posts)You got me, Nadin. I'm just full of hate. So much so that I spend all my days, 24/7 just thinking up and posting things to make the other candidate look corrupt, conservative and treasonous. And when I run out of new ideas, I just recycle the old ones. Without end. Things that make simple concepts like charity and public service sound like the work of the devil. Because that's how revolutions are won.
By the way, 40% of bern's votes in WV said they plan to vote for Trump anyway.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)shocking! I mean good democrats would never ever, like ever fall from the wagon and vote for the other side (Like in 1980 with Reagan Democrats, or 2000 with Bush Democrats). I am sure those folks will burn in hell for that sin. Or were you not aware that Rs did not vote in your precious primary and that the majority of those votes were not the decline to state voters, otherwise known as unaffiliated or in more parlance independents.
And the number was not 70, more like 44 percent. Not only you hate, but you lie well.
But perhaps most folks on the LW should just stay home. You guys keep telling LW progressives that they really are not needed.
enid602
(8,616 posts)Sorry. Typo. Meant to say 40%. I edited to correct.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)what happens if people do indeed stay home and you lose in the GE? You will blame the voters right?
enid602
(8,616 posts)I would blame the purists. Time to get pragmatic. And soon.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)...is being chased to the end by a 74 year old democratic socialist from Vermont. And he's the one that's fallen? Sounds good to me.
With the help of some WV voters, 40% of whom plan on voting for Trump anyways.
beedle
(1,235 posts)Hillary won at the start of the primaries?
Flip flopping is in the blood of 3rd way dems
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Or... something, I guess.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)And it's not just WV. It's all the heavy blue and purple states he's won over HRC by wide margins. It's ok though. You can hang on to all of your bullshit memes and cuddle up with them at night to keep you warm.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)Good for you!
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)...but around here, let's try to sound a little educated.
enid602
(8,616 posts)"Anyway vs. anyways
Anyways is a colloquial variant of the adverb anyway. It has a casual tone and may be considered out of place in formal or serious writing. In such contexts, anyway is safer.
Although considered informal, anyways is not wrong. In fact, there is much precedent in English for the adverbial -s suffix, which was common in Old and Middle English and survives today in words such as towards, once, always, and unawares. But while these words survive from a period of English in which the adverbial -s was common, anyways is a modern construction (though it is now several centuries old).
Anyways is sometimes useful for creating an informal or colloquial tone, which may be what these writers have in mind."
Funny, they don't mention anything about any way being preferable to anyway. Did you make that up?
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)If I was interviewing two applicants for the same job and they each had identical resumes and one said anyways and the other said anyway, I would take the one that said anyway...or any way as I prefer.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)My spelling is going wayward these days!
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)I was referring to "anyways". it's just a huge pet peeve of mine.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)correct it as two words. Sorry, not to make light of the original post.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)Lets get back to the conversation.
thucythucy
(8,050 posts)And BTW, revolutions can start in the most unlikely of places. Lexington and Concord weren't exactly the hub of the universe in 1775.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)honestly.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)That's who fell tonight!!!
Way to go West Virginia!!!
Next Kentucky gets to have their say!
And Oregon can't wait to weigh in.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)But I prefer her than Trump. We all know he will hit her with shit like if you were for working class people for 20+ years, what have you achieved? We know that Mrs. Clinton is corporate and she does not care about lower income people. To me, Mr. Sanders gets it and that is what he is fighting for. Too bad, the person who will represent America can never be elected because the moneyed people will support the person who will represent them.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Last edited Wed May 11, 2016, 03:39 AM - Edit history (1)
to shove down our collective throats is.
Even with EVERY corporate media mouthpiece trumpeting her inevitability over the last 18 months, she still cannot get 40% of the Democratic voters in a relatively conservative state to back her.
And half of the people who voted Democratic today hate her so much that they will switch to Herr Drumpf if she is nominated!
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)politician is now almost the Democratic nominee. Where on earth are the progressive Democrats who needed to run. Then Mr. Sanders surfaced and he is talking what Americans want to hear and yet he is not gaining ground! Look at O'Malley, fresh on the scene and could not gain any traction. Are Americans so much into the status quo that a younger guy like O'Malley, who pretty much had the same platform as Mr. Sanders, could not gain momentum!
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)That is if you actually were a true progressive, unlike most Hillary Rockefeller Clinton fans.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'm sorry that this makes you sad.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)It is mind boggling how some DUers whom I have never seen on here suddenly surfaces with thousands of post. Am curious... do they contribute more than we do and get to the top! How does this work?