2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders propelled to victory by Republican voters in West Virginia.
West Virginia is an odd place.
In the 2012 Democratic Primaries more than 40% of West Virginia Democrats decided to give their vote to Keith Judd who is an inmate at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Beaumont, Texas. He's serving time there for extortion.
Was it coal that led to Hillary's defeat in West Virginia? Or was it something else?
Let's look at some data.
Hillary Clinton won just 19% of the vote in Coal County, Oklahoma.
Why is this?
Coal County, Okla., is one of the most extreme examples. There, 80 percent of voters are registered Democrats, yet President Obama won just 27 percent of the vote in 2012. Mrs. Clinton has performed very poorly where the share of voters who are registered Democrats is much greater than the share of voters who supported Mr. Obama.
The same phenomenon dogged Mr. Obama in the 2012 presidential primary, when he won just 22 percent of the vote in Coal County, Okla. Thats not a typo: I mean the 2012 Democratic presidential primary, when he had no major opposition, not the 2008 one, when he had a tough contest with Mrs. Clinton.
In the 2012 Presidential Primaries, President Obama received just 22% of the Vote in Coal County, Oklahoma. Where 80% of the population is registered as Democrat.
49% of West Virginia voters are registered as Democrat but in 2012 President Obama received just 35% of their vote.
It certainly raises some questions about what took place last night in West Virginia, where these Democrats just voting for the weaker candidate? The exit polls showed that 1/3 of Bernie voters would vote for Trump in the general.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/10/upshot/where-democrats-like-hillary-clinton-the-least-besides-vermont.html?_r=0
So Hillary does better in open primaries where the majority of the voters are true liberal Democrats..and she does bad in closed primaries, where conservative democrats who predominantly vote Republican in the general, are forced to vote in the democratic primary.
There are definitely a lot of Democrats who would prefer to face Bernie in the General election.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Better?
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)44%
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)"Cognitive dissonance" is crowing about your candidates' progressive credentials, but relying on fascist Trump supporters to win a primary.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)MSNBC said more than 30 % of Bernie voters would vote for Trump over Sanders in the fall...exit polls. The voters said this. We have not won WVA since 1996. And they voted for a felon in prison to show Obama how much they hate him...perfect state for chaos. And when you add the fact they can switch easily from party to party online 21 days before a primary ...it gets better. With Trump the candidate, this allows them to play spoiler. And independents can vote in the Primary so while they are a hybrid state...still quite open.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)No Clinton has ever been a true Liberal Democrat.
What was the score between Obama and Hillary? Keep copying and pasting, everyone knows grave dancing is really stupid and came back to bite her in the ass.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Because the GOP did not want to run against Hillary in the GE, they would rather run against the never vetted candidate.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)81% Clinton, 9% Trump, 8% other.
Bernie voters says they would vote in November 55% Sanders, 39% Trump, 4% neither.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)by people who imagined they were actually voting for something....