LINK to Politico Delegate Tracker: HRC needs 14% of remaining delegates to clinch; Bernie 86 percent

[ProgressiveEconomist]

http://politi.co/2176fPm

2383 delegates are needed to clinch the nomination, and 1057 remain to be chosen. Hillary needs 144 to get to 2383, while Bernie needs 914.

What would you say are Hillary’s chances of getting to 2383? Bernie’s?

[tonyt53]

1. You mean Bernie isn't going to get those supers to switch?

the biggest problem Bernie has is his rationale. He says he can get those supers to switch. Those supers are lifelong Democrats, and many are running for political offices now and November. Bernie, and his supporters, have done nothing to help them at all. Bernie will be lucky to have a seat at the back of the room at the convention.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

2. IMO Bernie has been running AGAINST the Democratic Party for a year

A Party is a team, while a McGovern or a Sanders is a clueless ego-tripper whose nomination would result in Democrats losing most every national or statewide contest in November.

IMO, it was very wise to institute the superdelegate system, in order to prevent an "anti-Establishment" candidate from bringing down the party by boring frm within.

[lagomorph777]

4. The supers will have to respect their states' voters; most of them are elected in their states.

Bernie doesn't need to beg them to switch; he intends to show them the folly of voting against their states' voters.

And to correct Politico's math, the relevant numbers are in the PDs.

Total Clinton Sanders
4051 1716 1430

To reach 2026, Bernie needs 596 more PDs. That is 66% of remaining delegates, same as before WV.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

8. Hmm...Whom to believe...a mainstream media outlet with

millions of regular readers... or anonymous Bernie Bros making up their own rules for the Democratic National Convention?

[lagomorph777]

11. ??? Making up rules ???

Simply pointing out common sense. Don't buy into the ridiculous meme that Bernie is trying to illegitimately flip supers. That's a provable lie. Here are his actual statements.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/01/bernie-sanders-says-superdelegates-should-follow-voters-will-in-landslide-states/

[ProgressiveEconomist]

18. Every time I read one of these posts, I'm

reminded of Bill Maher's "New Rules" show segment, from what I remember of him, back before I cut the cord to HBO.

[Demsrule86]

12. Even if all the supers

voted with their states which would include supers moving to Hillary in states she won...Bernie still loses.

[lagomorph777]

15. Sure if you tell CA OR NJ and DC to go to hell - but perhaps you need those 50 million voters

in the GE? Just possibly?

[LoverOfLiberty]

21. What a seriously ridiculous reply

If CA, NJ or DC go to Trump in the general, the contest would already be long over.

What you responded to still stands. If all of the SDs go with the states won, Clinton still wins the nomination.

The only way Sanders can win with SDs is if states won by him choose him and states won by Clinton choose him.

Not very democratic, is it?

[enid602]

3. It's all about the bern

nothing more.

[morningfog]

5. That math is wrong. The race is to 2,026 pledged delegates. Bernie needs 589 more, HIllary needs 309

65.7% needed for Bernie.

[CorkySt.Clair]

7. In other words, Bernie is toast.

[morningfog]

9. Ew. You sig line is disgusting and should be hidden.

[dana_b]

16. Thank you. I HATE it when they

Intentionally use the SuperDelegates in there.

[Buzz Clik]

6. On the pledged only side of the equation:

HRC needs 34% of the remaining pledged delegates to win. She can lose 65-35 in every state (including Wash DC) and still win.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

14. Are you falling into the Bernie Bros "new rules" trap?

I doubt anyone is going to get to 2383 without superdelegates. The bogus 2026 PD target set by Bernie Bros is a completely meaningless and irrelevant figure, IMO. Let's use the official DNC rules to project the winner.

[synergie]

17. I think the point is that no matter which selective rules they wish to assert, Bernie is losing

on every front.

[Buzz Clik]

19. I didn't mention 2383 or the supers at all.

The calculation is, as I stated, for pledged delegates only. It provides a barometer of how the individual states voted.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

26. No--you said "needs ... to win"

rather than "barometer"

[Buzz Clik]

27. You win the semantics game.

[beachbumbob]

10. Math still doesn't work for sanders

[George II]

13. It's been over for more than a month, maybe longer.

[jmousso75]

20. LINK to Politico Delegate Tracker: HRC needs 14% of remaining delegates to clinch; Bernie 86 percent

So why are the Hillary supporters still whining and complaining and calling for Bernie to get out?

Seems to me........she's not that strong of a candidate..........

she didn't get out until the convention in 2008........

[Sheepshank]

25. To stop wasting, time, resources and energy on a race that is over

except for the eccentric, ego stroking, spittle throwing, angry man...who insists on marching and collecting $27

[pdsimdars]

22. Not progressive but Bull Shit. . . .

You've played with the math to confuse the issue. Why not just play it straight?

You can't count the Super Delegates in until the convention and neither candidate will likely get the required number of PLEDGED delegates, which is what is required now.

Dis-Information. Must be a Hillary supporter, what else? Trying to push lies and disinformation.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

24. I haven't played with any math. I just turned

Politico's numbers into percentages of 1057.

It's either Politico or you who have "played with the math", and I don't think it's Politico.

[Tiggeroshii]

23. 2026 for majority of pledged delegates.

Your number is the same the media is spouting. It is misleading.