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BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:35 AM May 2016

West Virginia's Heir Apparent Has Been Revealed!

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Apparently, only around 53% of the people who voted for Bernie Sanders in yesterdays Democratic primary would vote for him in November over Trump or Neither.

source: CNN Exit Polls.

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West Virginia's Heir Apparent Has Been Revealed! (Original Post) BootinUp May 2016 OP
40% of Sanders voters would vote for Trump over Sanders in WV. LexVegas May 2016 #1
False. Have fun though. nt bunnies May 2016 #4
Sort of OT, but have you ever watched The Wild, Wonderful Whites of West Virginia CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #5
I've seen it. Very good. nt LexVegas May 2016 #6
The choice was Clinton, Trump or Neither. bunnies May 2016 #2
No, They asked the question both with Clinton AND Bernie BootinUp May 2016 #7
Im having a fuck of a time making sense of that info. bunnies May 2016 #10
Yes, the second one. The same table with same data is at nbc.com too BootinUp May 2016 #11
Jesus. Thats fucked. Im blown away. Seriously. bunnies May 2016 #12
A choice between Clinton and Trump for the voters who voted for Bernie. It looks like ABBH to me. Autumn May 2016 #3
It was also polled as a choice between Bernie and Trump in Nov. BootinUp May 2016 #8
I love this bashing of the Conservative South when it fits the Clinton narrative Armstead May 2016 #9
If showing that W. VA is going puke this year is bashing BootinUp May 2016 #13
Most of the southern states are also likely to Armstead May 2016 #14
I am not diminishing his win, I am saying he would have no chance in Nov. BootinUp May 2016 #15
Just sayin....would like to see consistency in weighing the merits Armstead May 2016 #16
You are just arm waving though, and throwing around terms like demeaning. BootinUp May 2016 #17
I'm sorry I got overwhelmed by your ever so much deeper real data Armstead May 2016 #18
 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
5. Sort of OT, but have you ever watched The Wild, Wonderful Whites of West Virginia
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016

NO! I'm not talking about Bernie's base in the Mountaineer state.


It's a highly entertaining documentary that explores WVA culture. It's actually a lot of fun. Highly recommend.

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
7. No, They asked the question both with Clinton AND Bernie
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

The numbers I used above came from a graphic on TV. After you questioned it, I pulled the actual exit polls results.

It reads a little different than the graphic indicated but the point is still valid, that West VA will go puke in the GE and that Trump supporters were not expressing a real preference for policy when they voted for Bernie in the Primary.

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/WV/Dem

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
10. Im having a fuck of a time making sense of that info.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

Im seriously feel pretty stupid looking at these results. Is it one of the "How will you vote in November" questions?

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
11. Yes, the second one. The same table with same data is at nbc.com too
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/WV



So of All Dem primary voters:

51% say they will vote Bernie over Trump in Nov and 33% would vote Trump and 14% would vote neither.

Of Clinton voters 17% said Trump over Bernie
Of Bernie voters 53% said Trump over Bernie

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
12. Jesus. Thats fucked. Im blown away. Seriously.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

Thanks for breaking it down. I dont even know what to say.

Autumn

(45,055 posts)
3. A choice between Clinton and Trump for the voters who voted for Bernie. It looks like ABBH to me.
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016
Brockspin that crap.

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
13. If showing that W. VA is going puke this year is bashing
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

in your eyes then so be it. I prefer to call it recognizing the obvious.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. Most of the southern states are also likely to
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

Below is an NPR analysis of state prospects in the General...In typical media fashion, they assume it's Clinton v. trump, with no mention of Sanders. And yes overall, it says Clinton has a good chance of winning.

But for purposes of this, here are the southern states are characterized. So diminishing Bernie's win is inconsistent with the overall Clinton message and strategy in terms of the prospects for either candidate in the southern states.

Likely or Safe R (44):
Georgia,Alabama, Arkansas,Louisiana,Kentucky, Mississippi,South Carolina,Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Oklahoma,

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
15. I am not diminishing his win, I am saying he would have no chance in Nov.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

same as Clinton. And also W VA doesn't prove Sanders is a better GE candidate.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. Just sayin....would like to see consistency in weighing the merits
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

I'm not talking about racial issues or anything else -- fact is, the southern conservative vote is likely to defeat either Clinton or Sanders in those states in November.

So demeaning Sanders win while pumping up Clinton for other "ungettable" states is a double standard. Especially since Clintonites also like to bash Bernie for stating that electoral reality.

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
17. You are just arm waving though, and throwing around terms like demeaning.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

This thread is based on real data collected on Primary day.

I am not going to get into an arm waving argument today. To be honest I think I have made a good effort of late not to get into those.

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