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Wed May 11, 2016, 10:35 AM

West Virginia's Heir Apparent Has Been Revealed!

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Apparently, only around 53% of the people who voted for Bernie Sanders in yesterdays Democratic primary would vote for him in November over Trump or Neither.

source: CNN Exit Polls.

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Reply West Virginia's Heir Apparent Has Been Revealed! (Original post)
BootinUp May 2016 OP
LexVegas May 2016 #1
bunnies May 2016 #4
CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #5
LexVegas May 2016 #6
bunnies May 2016 #2
BootinUp May 2016 #7
bunnies May 2016 #10
BootinUp May 2016 #11
bunnies May 2016 #12
Autumn May 2016 #3
BootinUp May 2016 #8
Armstead May 2016 #9
BootinUp May 2016 #13
Armstead May 2016 #14
BootinUp May 2016 #15
Armstead May 2016 #16
BootinUp May 2016 #17
Armstead May 2016 #18

Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:10 AM

1. 40% of Sanders voters would vote for Trump over Sanders in WV.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:39 AM

4. False. Have fun though. nt

 

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:41 AM

5. Sort of OT, but have you ever watched The Wild, Wonderful Whites of West Virginia

 

NO! I'm not talking about Bernie's base in the Mountaineer state.


It's a highly entertaining documentary that explores WVA culture. It's actually a lot of fun. Highly recommend.

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #5)

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:44 AM

6. I've seen it. Very good. nt

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:32 AM

2. The choice was Clinton, Trump or Neither.

 

No need to twist it, really.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #2)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:00 PM

7. No, They asked the question both with Clinton AND Bernie

The numbers I used above came from a graphic on TV. After you questioned it, I pulled the actual exit polls results.

It reads a little different than the graphic indicated but the point is still valid, that West VA will go puke in the GE and that Trump supporters were not expressing a real preference for policy when they voted for Bernie in the Primary.

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/WV/Dem

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #7)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:07 PM

10. Im having a fuck of a time making sense of that info.

 

Im seriously feel pretty stupid looking at these results. Is it one of the "How will you vote in November" questions?

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Response to bunnies (Reply #10)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:16 PM

11. Yes, the second one. The same table with same data is at nbc.com too

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/WV



So of All Dem primary voters:

51% say they will vote Bernie over Trump in Nov and 33% would vote Trump and 14% would vote neither.

Of Clinton voters 17% said Trump over Bernie
Of Bernie voters 53% said Trump over Bernie

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #11)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:19 PM

12. Jesus. Thats fucked. Im blown away. Seriously.

 

Thanks for breaking it down. I dont even know what to say.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 11:35 AM

3. A choice between Clinton and Trump for the voters who voted for Bernie. It looks like ABBH to me.

Brockspin that crap.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:03 PM

8. It was also polled as a choice between Bernie and Trump in Nov.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:04 PM

9. I love this bashing of the Conservative South when it fits the Clinton narrative

 

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Response to Armstead (Reply #9)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:29 PM

13. If showing that W. VA is going puke this year is bashing

in your eyes then so be it. I prefer to call it recognizing the obvious.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #13)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:43 PM

14. Most of the southern states are also likely to

 

Below is an NPR analysis of state prospects in the General...In typical media fashion, they assume it's Clinton v. trump, with no mention of Sanders. And yes overall, it says Clinton has a good chance of winning.

But for purposes of this, here are the southern states are characterized. So diminishing Bernie's win is inconsistent with the overall Clinton message and strategy in terms of the prospects for either candidate in the southern states.

Likely or Safe R (44):
Georgia,Alabama, Arkansas,Louisiana,Kentucky, Mississippi,South Carolina,Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Oklahoma,

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Response to Armstead (Reply #14)

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:57 PM

15. I am not diminishing his win, I am saying he would have no chance in Nov.

same as Clinton. And also W VA doesn't prove Sanders is a better GE candidate.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #15)

Wed May 11, 2016, 01:01 PM

16. Just sayin....would like to see consistency in weighing the merits

 

I'm not talking about racial issues or anything else -- fact is, the southern conservative vote is likely to defeat either Clinton or Sanders in those states in November.

So demeaning Sanders win while pumping up Clinton for other "ungettable" states is a double standard. Especially since Clintonites also like to bash Bernie for stating that electoral reality.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #16)

Wed May 11, 2016, 01:08 PM

17. You are just arm waving though, and throwing around terms like demeaning.

This thread is based on real data collected on Primary day.

I am not going to get into an arm waving argument today. To be honest I think I have made a good effort of late not to get into those.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #17)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:08 PM

18. I'm sorry I got overwhelmed by your ever so much deeper real data

 

And the subtly of your Op

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