Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
80 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Trump: My SCOTUS nominee may try to overturn Roe v. Wade (Original Post) Actor May 2016 OP
God! Now he's coming out and saying he's pro-life, not pro-choice. brush May 2016 #1
I like that, vote blue no matter who...yes, i like that Actor May 2016 #4
he is NOT "pro-life", he is a woman-hating, misogynistic POS. niyad May 2016 #60
He is all of that for sure, but aren't you parsing a bit? brush May 2016 #61
this is for those who don't see the reality of the wrongly-called "pro-lifers", so many of niyad May 2016 #62
Aren't we saying the same thing? brush May 2016 #63
Goddamnit. VulgarPoet May 2016 #2
Thats exactly what he is. bunnies May 2016 #5
Problem because with this, I no longer have an out, because what if I'm wrong and he's serious? VulgarPoet May 2016 #8
I cant bring myself to take anything he says seriously. bunnies May 2016 #11
I believe in knowing my enemy, knowing what they're saying, what they're thinking VulgarPoet May 2016 #21
What more do you need to know? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #28
problem is, this is not a sane country. niyad May 2016 #16
Agreed. Trump as Republican nominee proves that. bunnies May 2016 #23
sadly, you are quite correct. niyad May 2016 #42
There's your single issue folks. joshcryer May 2016 #3
What does that mean? Is there a typo in your post? brush May 2016 #6
Oops. joshcryer May 2016 #39
Such a nominee would never get confirmed. bunnies May 2016 #7
Of course you are wrong and Roberts and Alito are proof of that. Actor May 2016 #9
Roe is still intact. bunnies May 2016 #12
No thanks, unlike some I see Trump as a threat to all people, not just women. Actor May 2016 #13
ok. nt bunnies May 2016 #14
so roe is intact? that doesn't stop the hundreds of pieces of legislation around the country niyad May 2016 #17
True. bunnies May 2016 #19
And these pieces of legislation Mz Pip May 2016 #30
The voting rights act was intact too, until it wasn't. brush May 2016 #40
Nope dbackjon May 2016 #51
Well..... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #15
I cant imagine the Senate being flipped. bunnies May 2016 #18
I hear what you're saying about the blow-back ... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #25
Scary, isnt it? bunnies May 2016 #26
Holy Crap. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #10
no point in point this out the Bernie Supporters...their man is Trump Sheepshank May 2016 #20
BULLSHIT!!! I, and many many other Bernie supporters will hold our noses and vote... Raster May 2016 #22
Those many, many just aren't represented on DU. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #29
There will be many - for various reasons - that will not vote for Clinton... Raster May 2016 #33
And ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #34
It makes sense to some people, because Clinton is viewed as part of the problem, not a solution. Raster May 2016 #37
And for those some people ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #38
Trump sounds more and more like Forest Gump swear to gawd. nt BootinUp May 2016 #24
I will vote for Hillary Clinton italiangirl May 2016 #27
You nailed how I'm looking at this to a tee. VulgarPoet May 2016 #43
Deal me in Zambero May 2016 #57
I wonder if you would have cared about the blood on Hillary's hands from Libya, Iraq and Honduras AZ Progressive May 2016 #31
I dont respond to GOP talking points that I have heard, verbatim, on right wing media outlets. Actor May 2016 #32
What a standard response AZ Progressive May 2016 #36
Pretty much a copy/paste from the rest of the response team n/t arcane1 May 2016 #52
I am sorry italiangirl May 2016 #35
Trump has already said he'd bomb the shit out of ISIS. brush May 2016 #41
Excellent Comment McKim May 2016 #56
ok rtracey May 2016 #44
Exactly, can you believe we are dealing with such whiny, spoiled people that they will Actor May 2016 #45
Well rtracey May 2016 #47
John Roberts said his court will not rehear the case. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #46
well rtracey May 2016 #48
I'm all for a sea change on the Supreme. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #53
Bullshit, Roberts will hear a case that will repeal it, guaranteed. Actor May 2016 #54
I'm just quoting him from a few years ago. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #55
Did he really say "may"? greymattermom May 2016 #49
Multiple Sanders or Bust supporters have told me on here dbackjon May 2016 #50
Those that say that Andy823 May 2016 #78
I have to agree awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #58
Oh, Donald is just too transparent. Operative word: "may". Nitram May 2016 #59
Perphaps the FBI should be investigting Trump. avebury May 2016 #64
I don't vote against a particular candidate. I vote for the person ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #65
And who cares what happens to the Latinos, Muslims, environment, etc. I know Actor May 2016 #67
Bernie Sanders does. That's why he's earned my vote. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #70
Mine too...guess what, I am talking about IF he loses. He will vote for Hillary, but you wont Actor May 2016 #71
The Republicans realize the importance of the SCOTUS issue Sheepshank May 2016 #66
Keep trying. You'll get the hang of it yet. bvf May 2016 #68
Hang of working for social and economic justice is hard, having done it myself Actor May 2016 #69
Yeah. Sure. Post a resumé. bvf May 2016 #72
All these newcomers to the process telling us old timers that we simply cant trust her. Actor May 2016 #73
That's not a resumé. Hell, that's not even a sentence. bvf May 2016 #74
Donald Trump is flip/flopping hourly, just to win votes. But I believe he won't rladdi May 2016 #75
Lets pray you are right, lives depend on it Actor May 2016 #76
"If you dont vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is, you will have blood on your hands." 132nd Last Angry Man May 2016 #77
Bernie supporters need to vote kevink077 May 2016 #79
Dang. I sure hope he doesn't win. nt silvershadow May 2016 #80

brush

(53,743 posts)
1. God! Now he's coming out and saying he's pro-life, not pro-choice.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

What else does anyone need to vote against this guy?

And btw, to get on board with voting blue no matter who.

Actor

(626 posts)
4. I like that, vote blue no matter who...yes, i like that
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016


DU now has two groups of members

A. will vote for the Democratic candidate to avoid women being killed in illegal, unsafe abortions

B. will not care about this and not participate if their candidate isnt nominated


brush

(53,743 posts)
61. He is all of that for sure, but aren't you parsing a bit?
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

I mean many would consider woman-hating, misogynistic POS, and pro-lifers one and the same.

niyad

(113,086 posts)
62. this is for those who don't see the reality of the wrongly-called "pro-lifers", so many of
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

whom cloak their woman-hating in "concern for women"

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
5. Thats exactly what he is.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

No question why Bill encouraged him to run. A rubber ball could beat this man (in a sane country).

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
21. I believe in knowing my enemy, knowing what they're saying, what they're thinking
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

and all I know about Trump is that I can't predict him.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
23. Agreed. Trump as Republican nominee proves that.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:47 PM
May 2016

American politics is now officially a joke. Not a funny one though.

Actor

(626 posts)
9. Of course you are wrong and Roberts and Alito are proof of that.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

The ones who want to cause harm will lie.

Actor

(626 posts)
13. No thanks, unlike some I see Trump as a threat to all people, not just women.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

And I will act responsibly

niyad

(113,086 posts)
17. so roe is intact? that doesn't stop the hundreds of pieces of legislation around the country
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

that are making it impossible to access abortions or, in some cases, even correct health care.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
19. True.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

And every single one of them is unconstitutional (imho) and should be ruled on as such. Oh, and people need to stop electing fucking republicans.

Mz Pip

(27,433 posts)
30. And these pieces of legislation
Wed May 11, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

will work their way up to SCOTUS.

SCOTUS decides what is or is not constitutional.

That awful bill in Indiana will surely be challenged. It's pretty clear how the 4 conservative judges would rule. One more and the law will stand.

Why anyone would even consider taking that risk is mind boggling.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
51. Nope
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:24 PM
May 2016

Scalia, Alito and Thomas wanted to overturn it. Roberts would if he had the votes.


President Trump will get Scalia's replacement. Then you are betting on RBG staying around for 4+ more years.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
15. Well.....
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

You're assuming that he'll have to get a Supreme Court nominee past a Senate that's Democratic.

What if he has a GOP Senate, whose to stop him?

There are NO checks and balances there with him having a GOP-led Senate.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
18. I cant imagine the Senate being flipped.
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

But yeah, if he gets the Senate, anything is possible. He'll need a huge majority though as not all Rs will go along with it. Especially the women. The blowback would be swift and immense.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
25. I hear what you're saying about the blow-back ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

But look at how the many Republicans are NOW rallying around this man as their nominee for president.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
26. Scary, isnt it?
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

I thought for sure they'd squash his run. Still hope for the convention though. (One can dream).

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
20. no point in point this out the Bernie Supporters...their man is Trump
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:23 PM
May 2016

they have*that* much hatred for the likely Dem nominee and *that* much respect for the Republican front runner.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
22. BULLSHIT!!! I, and many many other Bernie supporters will hold our noses and vote...
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

...for Ms Republican Lite over the tRump.

SHE IS the lesser of two evils.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
33. There will be many - for various reasons - that will not vote for Clinton...
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

...and first among those reasons is the forced rationale that if we don't vote for Clinton, we are helping to usher in in the tRump Apocalypse. In an election of this type and timbre, we should be voting for who we see as the best and the brightest, NOT the runner-up to the most offensive.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
34. And ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016
There will be many - for various reasons - that will not vote for Clinton ... and first among those reasons is the forced rationale that if we don't vote for Clinton, we are helping to usher in in the tRump Apocalypse.


Somehow ... that makes sense to people. Whether it is true or false, even if you disagree violently with her policy positions, HRC still remains the better alternative than trump.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
37. It makes sense to some people, because Clinton is viewed as part of the problem, not a solution.
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

It all depends on perspective. And yes, I agree: Clinton is BY FAR the better alternative than tRump, whom I don't really believe even wants to be POTUS, and I am frankly dumbfounded that his "candidacy" has made it this far.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
38. And for those some people ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

the solution to dealing with a part of the problem is to allow the bigger part of the problem control over that which is the problem.

That ... Makes ... No ... Sense.

italiangirl

(60 posts)
27. I will vote for Hillary Clinton
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

Not because I want to, I have to. I am outraged that I am in this position to vote for her and I have no other choice. Thanks to the DNC and DWS for arranging this coronation. When I vote for her, there will be blood on my hands because I believe she is neocon and won't think twice about going into war to prove she is tough. For every military person that comes home in a body bag, I will feel responsible. I pray she proves me wrong. My vote will be interpreted that I support her when I don't. I support and am voting for the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade. Not only will I hold my nose, l I will bring my barf bag with me

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
43. You nailed how I'm looking at this to a tee.
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:21 AM
May 2016

I'll feel worse because I am military, I'll be a separated veteran by December and-- the people I've served with, I really do consider them family. I pray to every god and goddess I worship that she doesn't waste the blood and lives of more of my own, but there's really no other choice. You're dead damn right-- it's an outrage.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
57. Deal me in
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:00 PM
May 2016

Come November, if headlines indicate that Trump is President-elect, it will be too late for any reconsideration. A scenario that is best avoided by any means possible.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
31. I wonder if you would have cared about the blood on Hillary's hands from Libya, Iraq and Honduras
Wed May 11, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

Only when its an American (and especially a wealthier American) is when it counts.

italiangirl

(60 posts)
35. I am sorry
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

You are right, I believe that is what I was referring to. Her history of war is why I went there. I apologize if you thought otherwise.
War is not justified not here or anywhere in the world.

brush

(53,743 posts)
41. Trump has already said he'd bomb the shit out of ISIS.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

Cruz has said he carpet bomb in the Middle East until the sand glowed red.

You'd pick one of these two over Clinton?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
56. Excellent Comment
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:26 PM
May 2016

This is an excellent comment. When I look at how many dead bodies there will be around the world as a result of her reign, I shudder and cannot vote for her. Many more will die from her wars and interventions abroad than from Illegal abortions here. Sorry but I go by the body count and not voting for her is the lesser of evils.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
44. ok
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

OK all Bernie, Hillary, Joe Biden supporters. If this statement doesn't get you into the voting booth and GOTV push, then either just stay home, move to Panama, put on your aluminum foil hat, whatever, because you sure as shit are not democrats.

Actor

(626 posts)
45. Exactly, can you believe we are dealing with such whiny, spoiled people that they will
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

purposely allow Donald fucking Trump to be president?

Makes me really fucking angry

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
47. Well
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
May 2016

I am somewhat as other are weary with the back and forth between the candidates and the candidate supporters, but (what seem to me anyway) is the thought process that many dont seem to be looking over very well. Yes Hillary didi vote for the war, and yes it was a cluster fuck, as all wars are, and yes if President, Sen. Sanders may need to send troops somewhere, but to be so against someone as to allow the opposition (with a stroke of a pen) to destroy what it took many dedicated people, lives, heartache to achieve over years and years is plain disgusting.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
46. John Roberts said his court will not rehear the case.
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

At least not while he's heading the court.

He knows that the Supreme Court is not a venue where litigants keep trying cases until they get the decision they like.

Trump is just telling people what they want to hear again. That seems to be a formula that works these days, regardless how ridiculous the promises.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
48. well
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

semantics, the justice would be conservative, again leaving a 5-4 majority, and with some older justices , namely Ms Ginsburg being somewhat ready to retire, progressive is needed.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
53. I'm all for a sea change on the Supreme.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

I do have some issue with labeling any of them progressive. One doesn't rise to the level of federal courts by being a liberal. Certainly some are less conservative than others, perhaps even moderate.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
55. I'm just quoting him from a few years ago.
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

Don't forget that this is the Chief Justice who amended the Obamacare bill to pass the bench. I think now that he has the lifetime gig he may be less idealistic and more serious about the position.

Actually, the quote was that he didn't "expect" to rehear the case, but he followed with comments about how people can't keep trying cases for the results they want. It's the Supreme Court, the end of the jurisprudence road.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
50. Multiple Sanders or Bust supporters have told me on here
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

That Trump will not have any openings, so why worry?


And that the short-term pain of a Trump presidency (usually coming from straight, white, males) is worth it in the end.




Andy823

(11,495 posts)
78. Those that say that
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:19 PM
May 2016

Are right wing trolls. There a lot of them on DU, and some have been here since Obama was elected stirring up the shit day in and day out. Some have been banned, but the others will keep on doing what they do best, causing problems. They need to be called out for their BS.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
58. I have to agree
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:49 AM
May 2016

and I'm a BS supporter. Yes, he is more inline financially with me, but a republican nominating the next 3 SC justices? Bye bye marriage equality. Bye bye Roe v Wade. The VRA will be totally gutted

Nitram

(22,768 posts)
59. Oh, Donald is just too transparent. Operative word: "may".
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

He will say anything to get votes. He already decided to forego the liberal women's vote, so he has nothing to lose with this. Instead, he'll gain conservative women and evangelicals.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
64. Perphaps the FBI should be investigting Trump.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

In order to name enough justices to the Supreme Court to overturn Roe V Wade is he putting out a "hit" on existing justices? Short of voluntary retirement or death, you can't fill a seat on the Supreme Court. Any deaths under a Trump WH should be closely investigated.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
65. I don't vote against a particular candidate. I vote for the person
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

who earns my vote and shares my values. Neither Trump nor Clinton have earned my vote or share my values. I will not be voting for either if they are the nominees.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
66. The Republicans realize the importance of the SCOTUS issue
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

They talk about it all the time. In fact they often mention it as the One reason to defeat Hillary. It is *that* important.

Actor

(626 posts)
69. Hang of working for social and economic justice is hard, having done it myself
Fri May 13, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

for decades, you?

rladdi

(581 posts)
75. Donald Trump is flip/flopping hourly, just to win votes. But I believe he won't
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

have enough people to elect him. Many of the so called new people he attracted to the party will not vote in November.

 
77. "If you dont vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is, you will have blood on your hands."
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

And not just from back-alley abortions, either.

kevink077

(365 posts)
79. Bernie supporters need to vote
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:18 AM
May 2016

If Clinton is the nominee.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

The tea party is hoping you stay home pouting while Trump wins due to low turnout.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Trump: My SCOTUS nominee ...