2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFBI's Comey: I feel 'pressure' to quickly finish Clinton email probe--Politico
(This is all there is of the interview)
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By Josh Gerstein
05/11/16 01:23 PM EDT
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-investigation-fbi-james-comey-223071
FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday he feels "pressure" to complete the federal investigation into Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's private email server competently and quickly.
However, Comey said the pressure is similar to other high-profile cases the bureau handles such as terrorism investigations.
"We want to do it well and we want to do it promptly. I feel pressure to do both of those things," Comey told reporters during a roundtable at FBI headquarters. "As between the two things, we will always choose 'well.'"
Comey indicated he's not taking into account political events, including the upcoming conventions or the fall election.
"I don't tether to any external deadline," the FBI chief said.
Comey swatted away a series of questions about the status of the investigation, describing it only as "ongoing."
Asked about complaints from some security clearance holders that they would be in jail if they acted similarly to Clinton, the FBI director declined to comment directly, but said: "There's no special set of rules for anybody that the FBI investigates."
In response to another question, Comey said he wasn't familiar with the term "security inquiry" that Clinton and her aides have used to describe the ongoing probe. Comey said he considers the work agents are doing to be an "investigation."
"It's in our name. I'm not familiar with the term 'security inquiry','" the director said.
However, he passed up the chance to repeat a reporter's characterization of it as a "criminal" probe.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Hillary said that's all it is. She should know, right? She wouldn't make stuff up!
Skink
(10,122 posts)I would think a security inquiry would wrap up quickly.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Obama has said that he does not believe Hillary intentionally threatened national security so the FBI has gone out of its way to make a special point of the fact that it is looking at the issue from a different perspective than the Obama administration.
That is not good at all.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Although I think if she was acting like the world's biggest gun moll making deals to sell arms to donors that is a threat to national security.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)does is criminal investigations.
Maybe Comey's just being very careful.
ThirdWayToTheHighway
(72 posts)Never heard of the FBI investigating anything noncriminal... That's not how law enforcement works.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Word, it's always about words with the Clintons and they proxies.
But they'll never top Bill's epic redefinition of "having sex" to exclude oral sex, manual sex, and apparently anything not specifically involving putting the daddy part right inside the mommy special secret place.
This is an investigation with criminal implications.
Period.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)legal violations led to security breaches but is looking at the narrower issues of whether Hillary complied with the law.
That's essentially saying the "no harm, no foul" concept that Obama has been pushing is off the FBI's table, and the FBI is looking for strict compliance with the law.
This is an unfavorable development.
Bob41213
(491 posts)Is it a subtle hint in your view of anything? Or should not too much be read into it?
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)with the specific laws within the scope of his investigation OR NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE INVESTIGATION, Comey will call that out.
If there is no breach of the law and there is legally required compliance with the investigation, Comey will vindicate Hillary.
It's that simple.
My bet is Sid Blumenthal is going down and Hillary is a material witness but not a co-conspirator. I think Obama's DoJ would pursue a recommendation against Blumenthal, but would not pursue an indictment recommendation against Hillary (whether a Hillary DoJ would immediately show itself to be corrupt and purely political by discontinuing an ongoing prosecution against Blumenthal would be an interesting issue).
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)They said that he would not be holding a press conference and that anyone who said so was just wishful thinking. Next you'll tell me he arrived under sniper fire. Lies!!! Lies!!!
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)It's pathetic how the Clinton campaign feels compelled to create their own euphemism for an FBI investigation.
Can't blame them though.
Being investigated by the FBI doesn't exactly inspire voters.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)If you're going to slam Hillary for small crowds you should try and at least find something more recent. Regardless, it's a stupid tactic since from the beginning she said she wasn't holding big rallies.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Here's one, I don't see much of a difference though.
If you think that makes that much of a difference. I think it illustrated the same point however.
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I've been saying that all along. The FBI doesn't "do" security reviews. They are a criminal investigative team.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511744139
Bob41213
(491 posts)*sarcasm*
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)... and are expending huge amounts of energy to keep her there in spite of the boulders and small moons trying to knock her off. If this thing turns out to be serious, it will be like all the Hillary suppoerters got punched in the face.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They are so much more than that. I have them in my office multiple times a year. Our dealings with them have absolutely nothing to do with criminal activity.
blm
(113,052 posts)make the impression that the campaign was depending on it. I don't think any Sanders voters see his success as based on perceived crimes of HRC. It diminishes his actual message that many of us voted for, imo.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278128-jane-sanders-it-would-be-nice-if-fbi-moved-along-clinton
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)If she's indicted in the middle of the race, it's over for the Democrats.
If she wins and gets into office, an indictment will result in impeachment, which the Republicans will start immediately anyway.
blm
(113,052 posts)in my view. And counterproductive.
awake
(3,226 posts)It seem to me if there was no "there" there then the FBI would have been done mouths ago. This is not looking like it will be good for Hillary.
blm
(113,052 posts)Surely you don't ask others to do what you would normally do when a particular subject is of interest to you, do you?
Here's one:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-hillary-clinton-is-unlikely-to-be-indicted-over-her-private-email-server/2016/03/08/341c3786-e557-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html
awake
(3,226 posts)We can speculate as to what will come down when the FBI has finished their investigation but there are no experts who know whether or not Hillary will be in trouble. What we do know is that this is not a "security review" but a full blown FBI investigation which is not over yet, and the fact that we might nominate someone who under this cloud of Uncertainty is not a good idea in my opinion.
blm
(113,052 posts)'experts' if they offered an opposite analysis and were consulted by a writer of an opinion that matched yours?
Like the many 'experts' from Heritage Foundation and the Federalist?
awake
(3,226 posts)I wish that Hillary had not used a home server and then we would not have to worry about this.
I find it very disheartening that Hillary supporter offen accuses others on this site of being right wingers when real issues are raised.
blm
(113,052 posts)from many of my fellow Sanders supporters here is that they often rely on RW propaganda sites to target HRC and other Dems.
I guess I'm being more general in my reply, and not so much pointing specifically at you.
I also am for Bernie but I am verry worried the Hillary's home severe will come back and bit us if she is our candidate and the FBI has not finished its work.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Not one of them has interviewed a principle in the investigation.
Those experts are about a accurate as a bet on red or black in roulette. Or flipping a coin.
The fact that the FBI investigation is ongoing means there is at least prima facie evidence of an indictable crime or crimes.
bvf
(6,604 posts)are kibitzing from armchairs and not participating in the FBI investigation.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)The longer it drags out, the worse it will be. If Hillary is the nominee, and she gets indicted . . . not so good. If she's elected (which is a remote possiblity) the GOP has already been talking about impeachment.
Much better to get cleared or jailed now.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)"It's in our name...
interesting.
4139
(1,893 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)So much baggage the Clintons have, so many ways to blackmail them!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)The stain and smell of the e-mail and Clinton Foundation investigations should be enough to sway
any thinking person away from HRC. Thinking being the key word.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)You must be proud.
panader0
(25,816 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Pathetic!
panader0
(25,816 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)If you simply laugh in the face at what someone is saying--you are saying they aren't thinking and are foolish.
Yes, your condescension is pathetic.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)in the Clinton Camp who keep referring to this as a "Security Investigation." Comey took few question from the Press, but apparently came out to shoot down that this wasn't about a just "Security Investigation" but, in fact, an FBI Investigation that was more comprehensive and, therefore, would take more time to sort out to see if any laws were broken. He's going at it from the "Legal Angle" because the Security/Server issues were probably already given to FBI from Brian Pagliano after he got his Immunity.
Whatever Pagliano knew about the Server could be verified by the FBI's OWN Security people. They have the Servers and can trace what was there and perhaps even the "wiped" or "erased" e-mails that weren't turned over that their staff is going through.
Plus, Records from the Clinton Foundation were requested and turned over. Since both Bill, Hillary and Chelsea had e-mail addresses on the Chappaqua Server then there may have been e-mails there that had to do with Clinton Foundation being hacked or dealings that may not have been appropriate for Hillary as SOS to be dealing with on that Server that both her Husband (former President and Head of Clinton Foundation and later Chelsea) were using from the Chappaqua Server that might have been compromised by being co-mingled with State Department dealings with foreign countries.
There's a lot there that will take time to deal with to see what has been compromised or not.
Operating under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI is concurrently a member of the U.S. Intelligence Community and reports to both the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence.[2] A leading U.S. counterterrorism, counterintelligence, and criminal investigative organization, the FBI has jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal crimes.
It SAYS "criminal investigative organization"
CruzinNCrying
(17 posts)I think this press release bodes very poorly for Clinton. He basically is shutting down her camp's characterization of what is occurring. Also saying his team is not a pesky gnat they will swat away in time for the GE. If there was "nothing to see here" I am sure the investigation's pace would be much quicker and no need to even entertain a conference. Buckle up Clinton Supporters as there is going to be a long ride ahead.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)and Bush's illegal war crimes being tolerated, lowered the bar in presidential candidates. Before that someone previously impeached or under FBI investigation, or who is under publicly known suspicion for using a private firm for laundering money would not be electable. Never mind those other clowns that have slithered under the bar.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)your buds have and it's public because you posted it on DU?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Now they'll know it's not some "security review" because the FBI doesn't do those.
It's a criminal investigation, period.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Suspicion: not proven, but suspected. This is straightforward stuff.
moriah
(8,311 posts)... and unless you're making allegations against the Clinton Global Initiative with your comments about money laundering, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)violating the most fundamental laws.
Think of the whistle blowers who were prosecuted under Obama for "espoinage". More than all other presidents in history combined. It is sickening, the double standard. How long can they keep going on like this?
Someone mentioned the case of a sailor who sent his sweet heart a selfie on his submarine but in the background was a sonar image and now he is facing 20 years in prison.
Another soldier in Afghanistan who saw a member of ISIS who he said was going around dressed as a policeman. He reported it to his superiors. But because he sent it on his gmail account, he is also facing 20 years in prison.
And Hillary had emails about troop movments and an email with the real names of undercover CIA agents in the middle east on her private, unsecure, private email server. And, ho hum. . . . .
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)abound, upside down justice cannot be sustained indefinitely.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)long drawn out investigations don't serve anyone except to add fodder to the drip drip drip of "leaked info". I also have to do research, come up with findings and am required to do a thorough job, but in a timely manner. It's a balancing act that comes with many jobs.
I have deadlines all the time to complete the job...pressure comes with the job....why is this news?
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)This occurred to me when I read Comey's quotes, but I didn't quite formulate it into a question. I just noted it. It's a bit odd to have the head of the FBI complaining of pressure. I wish I could watch the press conference, to see if he was Corrupt Media-baited into saying this, and might not have said it otherwise, or if it's a point he really wanted to get across and took initiative on. I'd also like to know if there was a follow-up question about any specific source of pressure.
I mean, it is a situation without precedent--the frontrunner Democratic presidential candidate under long term FBI investigation with no end in sight. OF COURSE there is pressure! But why would he say so, if he was trying to present a steadfast FBI doing their normal investigation process without fear or favor? (That did seem to be the tone of his other statements.)
Damn, this is so bizarre! What are we to make of this? We, the people? We, the voters? We, the members of the Democratic Party? It hangs us on a hook. How are we to know if this candidate is even minimally viable?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I really don't have a problem with what they are doing. Glad I'm not in his shoes. They really haven't been letting out much which I find to be good.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)of a crooked game (FWIW, I don't think Hillary is going to strike out on this issue).
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Take a hint Clinton. Don't do it!
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Hillary's flowery phrases for investigations is utter bullshit. She takes us for idiots. Rules apply to all Comey? We'll see.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)They are being scrutinized by both the republicans and Democrats. They have to make sure their recommendation is airtight and backed by solid evidence.
Now, what happens after their recommendation may show the rules don't apply for some people or not. That's when it enters the world of politics.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)BlueStateLib
(937 posts)that were sent to her private email account from the unclassified state.gov email system
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)They may or may not have been in a position to know that even though not classified, the information was sensitive enough to be treated as classified. Hillary had to know that.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)how to recognize it. AND that it is not the markings that make it classified or not but the CONTENT. Some Congressmen on the Intelligence Committee have looked at those 22 emails and they say there is not doubt, an 8 year old would have known this is classified.
She, in her position, is REQUIRED to mark it classified when she comes across it. She did not. Because she was on a non-government server, she could not mark it classified on that non-government server.
They also have HER email instructing someone on her staff to remove the markings from an email and send it on an unprotected fax machine.
Spin all you want, these are things we know.
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)Princeton Lyman, a State Department veteran who served under presidents of both parties and was a special envoy to Sudan when Clinton was secretary of state, said he has been surprised and a bit embarrassed to learn that emails he wrote have been classified. He said he had learned through decades of experience how to identify and transmit classified information.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)But there were at least 22 that were classified higher than top secret. They contained information of sources, methods and personal asset. That would NEVER have been anything other than top secret.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)That fact that its being dragged out reminds me of Ken Starr. Two weeks.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)How proud you must be to support a candidate under FBI investigation!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)But I understand that is not a phrase often used by DU's Combustible Hair Club.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)and multiply it by 20. The next four years will be marked with no achievement and constant distraction.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)anyone seeing their "proof" could see that it was a sham.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Bengazi Investigation is still ongoing, Two FOIA (Freedom of Infomation) Lawsuits which Two Federal Judges have ruled to go forward with Discovery and the current one from The FBI which is also still ongoing.
That's a lot of investigations hanging over Hillary.